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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:20 AM Original message |
Assange could face espionage trial in US ("Informal discussions have already taken place") |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. We don't need to charge him to get him here--- |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. He is a journalist. If he is charged with espionage, then every |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. good points all around - he has been around for a lot longer than this new argument by the US govt |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 06:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I think you mis-read my post, badly. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Don't conflate, msanthrope. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Who's conflating? The assertion was made that no charges have been filed. They have. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Please cite the exact laws you are referring to |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. Exactly, thank you n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
50. I do remember Bradley Manning. I was speaking about the news |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Maybe a "chilling precedent" is what the Obama administration seeks? /nt |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. Chilling precedent isn't the word. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
59. Very good post. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. They are desperate. If they want to act on the Espionage |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
56. Espionage for the US isn't the same as against the US n/t |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
3. I wonder how this is going to playout...some experts say there will be a lengthy trial |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. Whatever happens |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
4. Since some jack@sses here have threatened his life |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
21. I hope you are right. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 09:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Corrupt. Add they enthusiastically proved it in this case. It's up to the people of Sweden, |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. Not the people of the U.S.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. I wonder if the ACLU could file an amicus brief |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
6. Then there's something wrong with USA |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:51 AM Response to Original message |
7. At the linked page w/ Christine Assange's comments, 87% believe |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. It was a CIA setup. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. More likely State Department. |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:06 AM Response to Original message |
8. I fucking hate our government |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 06:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. The United States Government is not ignoring the crimes. |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 06:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Ah yes |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Assange isn't the whistle blower. He's just one of the people who posts |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
10. Yet the Bush cabal goes free |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Yes, the parade of war criminals left free to march across the Sunday morning shows.. |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
11. Now Now... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 06:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Actually, I'm Looking Forward |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
17. If he's arrested in NA then every single person who called publicly |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
18. The idea is to make an example of Assange. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 09:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Yup... |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
43. We know that for sure, now. |
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williesgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
23. How fucked up is this? Bush/Cheney ok on illegal invasions/torture, but go after someone for |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
24. This would be a big mistake. They would martyr him. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
26. New York Times Co. v. United States, 403 U.S. 713 (1971) |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The Congressional Record |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. It could come down to that. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
29. LA Times: US considering asking for Assange extradition |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. They should make the request directly to the UK--it's an easier extradition. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Not as easy as you think... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Such a clear political prosecution would make everyone look worse |
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gmpierce (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
33. The real offense |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Yeah, our "leaders" are trying not to look "weak". |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. It's all about Dem party leaders not trying to look weak on defense. |
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Krakowiak (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
38. Wait Wait... Where are all the people that said if he wasn't guilty of sex crimes.... |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. The country will become what you allow it to be. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
41. Legal or not legal, I'm glad he's shaking up the power structure a bit |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
46. So Cheney and Bush can brag about torture programs and we want to Move Forward on that. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. +1000 |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Exactly |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
53. Justice is not here in America ..if London transfers him out |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:16 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Australia is also showing its face is in the US pudding .... shame on them!! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
55. ''Informal discussions have already taken place.'' |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
57. FREE JULIAN ASSANGE ... we need to find some way to prevent his --- |
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farmboxer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
60. But it's OK to expose an undercover CIA agent?! |
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Dash87 (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
61. This says all about the mentality of the US Government |
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