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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:54 PM
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Jobless aid to expire; effort fails in Senate
Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Jobless benefits were due to lapse yet again for hundreds of thousands of Americans after an effort to extend them failed in the U.S. Senate on Tuesday.

Hours before beefed-up benefits were set to expire at midnight, Democrats sought to extend them for another year. But they were blocked by Republican Senator Scott Brown, who said Democrats should have taken time to work out a compromise.

"It's not the way to do business in the United States Senate, and if it is it needs to change," Brown said. "We just found out today, or late yesterday, that we were even going to talk about this."

With the unemployment rate stuck at around 9.6 percent, the two parties have been sharply divided over how to cover the cost of weekly checks, averaging around $300, that help jobless people stay afloat.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101130/bs_nm/us_usa_congress_unemployment_1
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:55 PM
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1. Gee--and there was a time when I thought the Democrats were a majority.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:56 PM
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2. So Scott Brown is stupid as well as mean.
A mere mortal, I, have known this deadline for weeks and weeks and weeks now.

So is he stupider, meaner, or about even in those two categories.

Oh, and a big FUCK YOU to all of the politicians who let this lapse.

And no, I am not unemployed. But I don't believe in fighting two useless wars AND starving those without jobs at the same time.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:03 PM
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4. someone who sells their naked body for easy money will also sell their soul

hence Scott Brown

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:19 AM
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36. Hey welcome to Obama-time
A Place where no Defense Contractor is left behind and Thousands of New Gold Star Mothers are made annually for Corporate Greed
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:01 PM
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3. All about the tax breaks for the rich!
These assholes can't vote for something that will help those who really need it unless it's "PAID FOR", but they can push for tax cuts for the rich without finding a way to pay for it! May they all rot in hell!
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Ginto Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:06 PM
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5. So we'll finally get to see these legendary repuke economic policies in action.
Unemployment will surely now drop that all the lazy people will now have to get jobs. :sarcasm:

Unfreakinbelievable.
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:11 PM
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26. Yes, millions of new jobs will be instantly created....
as soon as the jobless lose their benefits. :sarcasm:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:29 AM
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37. I hope the Food Banks have lots of Turkey and CHRISTMAS TRIMMINGS
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:09 PM
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6. Scott Brown resign - and start looking for a job
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:18 PM
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7. He needs to dig out those pink leather shorts.
He'll need them pretty soon.

And unemployment benefits.

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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:32 PM
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20. I bet Brown is a one termer.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:54 PM
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27. Thats the thing
He could. It ism't people like that feeling the pain
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:21 PM
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8. To those of you who falsely believed that Scott Brown wouldn't be "so bad"
like Randi Rhodes, what do you think now?

Still think Scott Brown isn't part of the wingnut brigade? He has to get reelected in two years. That means fall down before the teabagger brigade.

It's sickening!! :puke:
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:23 PM
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9. I want to hear from the Pigs how they intend to cover the cost of continued tax cuts for the rich
?
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Ruperto31 Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 12:15 AM
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31. They will keep on printing money.
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 12:18 AM by Ruperto31
This is inflationary, but they will keep inflation down by by the use of economic terrorism against the working class.

Doesn't the prospect of 99 weeks of living below subsistence followed by total impoverishment make you want to keep your job? Wouldn't you rather work for less than not work at all? That's the choice that I and other employees made where I work.

This is capitalist "discipline" for the workforce, courtesy of their bought-and paid-for lackeys in the government.
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A-Long-Little-Doggie Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:25 PM
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10. I tried to call my Republican Senator today
but Sen. Brown's voicemail box was full. Guess I wasn't the only one.

Asshole.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:44 PM
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11. republicans are pigs
i hope the people losing benefits will know who stuck it to them.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:47 PM
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12. you shouldn't insult the pigs like that. I don't think there is any creature on earth that deserves
to be equated with these soul-dead, heartless, hateful wastes of resources.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:57 PM
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14. i stand corrected.
republicans are...are...republicans!
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:50 PM
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13. :'-(



:cry: :cry: :scared:
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DimplesinMI Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:13 PM
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15. Not Surprised and I am President Obama continues to look WEAK!
I was a little kid when President Jimmy Carter was in office but I truly believe there could have been NOT WAY that he appeared this weak, as opposed to President Obama, right?

I am joining the call for a primary challenge for Obama. This is getting crazy.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:17 PM
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17. I don't understand your point
if anything, this makes the Republicans look like petty, vindictive assholes.
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:28 PM
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18. Exactly.
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:32 PM
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19. Are you for real? The blame goes to Brown and the Pubs.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:44 PM
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 09:02 PM
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23. President Obama could preach from the bully pulpit 'till he passes out, repukes will still obstruct
That's the tactic they've chosen, and with the dumb-ass fillibuster rules in the senate we're pretty much screwed.

ALL of us, every Democratic congress person, every individual needs to be writing letters to the editor, posting about this crap on local chat sites, let the world know what the bastards are up to. Shooting ourselves in a circular fiting squad isn't going to do anything.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 04:40 PM
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40. Your post indicates
a lack of thinking ability.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:15 PM
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16. Merry 'fuckin' Christmas!!!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:50 PM
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22. What the hell is there to discuss? These benefits are needed and anyone who opposes them
are either doing so for political reasons,or simply, cruel and uncaring.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:25 PM
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28. Brown was near incoherent in his speech
Apparently, he was mad that they worked on the food safety bill. He claimed they did no bills for the economy. (I guess he forgot that he voted against many of them!) It would be great if even a portion of the speech was on MA TV - let's just say that just as his politics are the opposite of Kennedy and Kerry - so his his ability to give a coherent, logical persuasive speech.

Here is the nearly incoherent Brown.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/clip.php?appid=599221007
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:42 PM
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30. Even Matt Viser in the Boston Globe, who has been a major Brown fan really reported his
on his action here.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2010/11/brown_gives_fei.html?comments=all

The Globe usually gets a lot of RW comments - here, almost everyone is attacking him. (It details a lot of his incoherent speech emphasizing that he stressed the importance in acting on the ESTATE TAX, which affects almost no one.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 09:11 PM
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24. Scrooges!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:00 PM
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25. So when the fuck will this come back up to vote?
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:28 PM
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29. Where would the compromise be on this issue?
Dem position: Extend benefits
Repub position: Don't extend benefits.

While I may not be fully informed as to the intricacies of the matter, it doesn't look like there's a middle ground.
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Ruperto31 Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 12:22 AM
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32. Extend it for two months. That would be a compromise.
I'll bet it will be something like that.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 04:34 PM
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39. There's no change in position with that.
The two sides are still:

Dems--Extend benefits.
Repubs--Don't extend benefits.
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Ruperto31 Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 12:34 AM
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41. But they like to kick the can down the road.
They've repeatedly done this for a while now.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:04 AM
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33. Millions To Lose Unemployment Benefits
Source: NPR

Things just got worse for the millions of Americans who have been unemployed for up to 99 weeks. At the stroke of midnight Tuesday, a short-term extension of jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed expired as Democrats and Republicans in Congress failed to agree on how those benefits should be further extended.

Congress decided last July to extend long-term unemployment insurance only until the end of November. November has now given way to December, and West Virginia Democratic Sen. John D. Rockefeller lamented that those benefits have run out, just in time for the holiday season. "I feel terrible about it, particularly in West Virginia where everybody's fighting to survive all the time. And we have to do it," he said. "Why we haven't done it I don't know."

The House has already tried once — and failed — in the current lame-duck session to extend the jobless benefits. In the Senate, the No. 2 Democrat, Dick Durbin, appeared stricken Tuesday when asked what that chamber planned to do about 2 million people losing their jobless benefits. "There's just no current ... plan or schedule for extending these benefits and I think this is just wrong," he said.

The expiring benefits were not even mentioned by Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell when he spoke of the meeting he and other congressional leaders had Tuesday with President Obama at the White House. "I think the one thing we clearly agreed on is that first, that we ought to resolve what the tax rates are going to be for the American people beginning next year," he said.



Read more: http://www.npr.org/2010/11/30/131713002/millions-to-lose-unemployment-benefits



Where's the concern for the deficit when it's time to extend tax cuts for the wealthy? Oh, wait...
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:04 AM
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34. Mitch is right
NOT. Yeah, get those tax cuts for the greedy 2% because we can't afford not to give them more money. But we simply can't afford to help those in need. After all, doesn't the bible say 'God helps those who help themselves'?

All I gotta say is fuck this country. Fuck the flag. And fuck all the wars that they seem to be able to afford. I'm out of here. I've dropped the fuck out and nothing will bring me back in except for a fucking revolution.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:04 AM
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35. McConnell keeps repeating that lameass talking point about tax uncertainty.
If he were homeless for awhile maybe he could learn what uncertainty is really like.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 07:03 AM
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38. Just called Brown's office and you can too.
Contact information for Scott Brown:

http://scottbrown.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/contactscott?p=EmailScottBrown

2400 JFK Federal Building
Boston, MA 02203
Phone: (617) 565-3170
Fax: (617) 723-7325

317 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington D.C. 20510
Phone: (202) 224-4543
Fax: (202) 228-2646


You have to have a lot of chutzpah, or maybe no heart, to scream that a temporary extension of jobless benefits must be paid for while you are demanding indefinite extension of tax cuts for people who make unbelievably high incomes.

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