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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:47 PM
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Suspected Threat Against President (and Pelosi) Posted On Craigslist
Source: KDKA TV

PITTSBURGH (KDKA) — The Secret Service is investigating what are being described as threats against President Barack Obama.

The KDKA Investigators have learned the threats were posted online by a Pittsburgh man on Craigslist.

The photos show targets on the forehead of President Obama and other shots show the president with gunshot wounds to his head.

Other pictures show similar targets and gunshot wounds on the head of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

When Craigslist users saw the postings, they reached out to the Secret Service. A Secret Service memo obtained by the KDKA Investigators indicates investigators asked for help with the case stating: “You recently sent information to the U.S. Secret Service webmaster regarding threatening messages posted on Craigslist-Pittsburgh. The site has been taken down and we are unable to view the threats. Do you have a screen shot of the threats?”



Read more: http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2010/11/17/suspected-threat-against-president-posted-on-craigslist/



Frog march the poster Secret Service!
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:51 PM
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1. At this point, shouldn't Beck and O'Reilly be charged $50 for every death threat the SS has...
...to investigate? Because, more often that not (literally) there's some connection to either one or both of those fuckers.

PB
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:59 PM
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4. The wingnut cop-killer we had in Pittsburgh was a big Beck fan...
and strongly believed in a nonexistant "Obama gun ban" that Beck had been peddling for months.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:05 AM
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9. Will Bunch in his book Backlash writes of Poplowski's watching Beck
This January, I spent several days in Pittsburgh investigating the Poplawski case and seeking to learn more about what really motivated him to kill three police officers. The research was for a chapter in my book, The Backlash: Right-Wing Radicals, High-Def Hucksters and Paranoid Politics in the Age of Obama, which comes out at the end of the month. (Facebook group here.) I learned quite a bit -- including a couple of new details about the shooting and Poplawski's past that will be revealed when the book is published. But the main thing was that Poplawski's fears about the "Obama gun confiscation" was the proverbial tip of the iceberg when it came to his increasingly paranoid ideas that he seemed to glean largely from talk radio and from Beck.

"Rich, like myself, loved Glenn Beck," Poplawski's best friend Eddie Perkovic told me during a long interview in his narrow rowhouse on the steep hill running down to the Allegheny. (Perkovic had a lot of time -- he was wearing an ankle bracelet for house arrest because of an unrelated case.) Perkovic and his mom -- who also had a close relationship with the accused cop-killer, still awaiting trial -- told me that for months Poplawski had been obsessed with an idea -- frequently discussed by Beck, including in ads for his sponsor Food Insurance -- of the need to stockpile food and even toilet paper for a societal breakdown. Poplawski was also convinced that paper money would become worthless -- another claim given credence by the Fox News Channel host, particularly in close connection with his frequent shilling for the now-under-investigation gold-coin peddler Goldline International.

And there was another idea that not only worried Poplawski but which Perkovic and his mom still swore by in January 2010 -- despite widespread debunkings in the mainstream media -- that the government had established a gulag of what Perkovic called "Guantanamo camps" here in the United States, for the purpose of arresting and detaining law-abiding Americans. This was the idea that Beck famously declared on FNC on March 3, 2009, or one month and one day before the shootings, that "I can't debunk." Poplawski downloaded to the Web a video of Beck glibly discussing the possibility of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA, abusing its powers with a U.S. Congressman, Ron Paul of Texas. Poplawski's mother later said in a swown statement that her son "liked police when they were not curtailing his constitutional rights." By then, Officers Eric Guy Kelly, Stephen Mayhle and Paul Sciullo II were already dead.

If would be easy to blow off the Poplawski case -- horrible as it is -- if it just a one-time thing. The evidence is mounting that this is far from the case, sadly. In recent days, we've learned about the incident involving an ex-convict named Byron Williams who loaded up a truck with weapons and -- saying he was on his way to an obscure outfit called The Tides Organization to launch a revolution -- wounded two officers near Oakland, Calif., before he was arrested. Research showed that no other media figure had discussed the Tides Foundation...except for Glenn Beck.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/will-bunch/pop-poplawski-the-high-de_b_675796.html

If you want a good insight into Beck's viewers, their own paranoia, and the citizens in the tea party movement Backlash is an exellent read.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:15 AM
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13. WHY?
President Obama, Pelosi and the democratic leaders have done whatever the Republicans wanted. Why would they target politicians who are complicit in their destruction of America?
I realize that I sound very negative, but IMO, we currently have a one party system...
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:30 PM
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15. No, the real connection is that every single one of them drinks
water. Some if it even had fluoride!

Correlation isn't cause & effect.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:56 PM
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2. We seem to hear about these things over and over again
And yet, only a few times are the perpetrators ever charged and sent to jail.

More often than not, it seems like the Secret Service does a perfunctory investigation, and then some technicality or hair-splitting issue means the instigators walk.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:57 PM
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3. Seriously, opinion aside, just how fucking stupid do you have to be?
Honestly, truly, certifiably stupid to the nth degree.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:06 AM
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5. It's not a question of stupid, I don't think, it's more a question of unbalanced.
There are...a lot...more people who are, for lack of a better word, "unbalanced" out there. Moreso are people who ride the line and for one reason or another get kicked into a spiral by something.

To the person who posted that, assuming they were serious, it was not only right of them to do but expected, and honorable response to what they consider a frightful world closing in on them.

This is why people like Glenn Beck and O'Reilly are such...scumbags really is too pale a word...because a big part of their business is drummed up by kicking people just over the edge into their fear world.

Because fear keeps them listening. But it also draws them into a very dark place. And some of them never really escape its gravitational pull. That's what Beck and O'Reilly do to turn a buck.

PB
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:21 AM
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6. Add Limbaugh and Hannity and in Pittsburgh
some wannabes like Jim Quinn, Mike Pintek, John Steigerwald(should've stuck to sports), Dmitri and the national 2nd stringers.

We have 2 damn mostly wingnut radio stations here.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:43 PM
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16. Honsberger was the worst. He had KDKA's power to shout his hate every day. I was listening to
KDKA one day and Pintek was talking on the phone with the father of a high school student who was in special ed. The issue was whether the boy could go to commencement with the kids he had been with for years and then graduate later because he needed more credits. Pintek screamed at him "I'm tired of paying taxes to have your retard son get more time than other students". The father was devastated hearing that. The right wing callers called into commend Pintek for that.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:24 PM
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18. I was thinking of throwing Honsberger in but since he's dead
I decided against it. But kudos to you for including him!

Pintek is an ass. He had that birther Berg on the radio the inauguration eve & then another birther 2 weeks later. He was pissed I sent instant access message that this was a new low for KDKA!
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Omar4Dems Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:47 AM
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8. Indeed, just today I saw a bumper sticker, "Fear Your Government"
The very kind of rhetoric that preceded the Oklahoma City bombing.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:26 AM
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11. I think I've seen someone on here use "Fear Your Government" as their sig line
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:21 AM
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7. This is the old "pro-life-murder" game ... keep demonizing and someone will turn up
to knock off someone on the left -- !!!

Remember when Ollie North was running for the Senate/? or was it for Governor --

don't recall - but among the buttons that were being sold within his camp was one

which asked:

"Where is Lee Harvey Oswald when you really need him?"

Presume Clinton was president at the time --

and we did have quite a few nuts outside the White House trying to shoot in --

and against all odds a private plane having flow into the WH quite near his bedroom!!

Same old right wing game playing with high stakes for liberals --

"getting thrown off a cliff" -- and/or otherwise being eliminated!!

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 08:31 AM
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25. agreed...
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:16 AM
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10. This is nothing new, I see it all the time on the politics section of craigslist
I've stopped going there it's such a bastion of stupid around here. I wonder if I should start reporting them all? It would certainly make the county easier to live in. :spank:
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:45 AM
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12. Pennsylvania keeps popping up on DU this week.
Each time it seems to be a negative story. I can only imagine what it's going to be like now that the reptilian party will have complete control.

I was never thrilled to be living in the "T" part of PA, but it's really getting worse here now that Pres. Obama is in office.

In other words..... I want out of this place!!!

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:45 PM
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17. It's going to be uglier in PA with the Marcellus drilling. They will overturn the Pittsburgh
ban on Marcellus drilling there.
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:46 PM
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21. I said the same thing to my wife today.
Once the Marcellus cabal gets into high gear, this stae is going to be one giant Super Fund Site.


Dunkard Creek is a 38-mile creek that contained a unique ecosystem with 161 species of fish, 14 species of mussels, salamanders, crayfish and aquatic insects. It was one of only two or three creeks like it on the Monongahela River watershed. Some experts say it will be decades before the fishery returns to normal, if ever. Many of the fish were over 15 years old. It's believed the prized mussel population may be lost forever.


If this same water killed thousands of fish,
would you want your cattle in there?

http://www.marcellus-shale.us/Dunkard_Creek.htm


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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:50 PM
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22. 19 cattle were killed in LA
The drilling crew at a Chesapeake well site in Louisiana was “injecting fluids at high pressure to break down the shale and release natural gas,” when some cattle ingested the fluid and died. 19 of the cattle died.

http://savethewatertable.org/2010/08/hydraulic-fracture-fluid-kills-18-cattle-near-chesapeake-well-in-la/

I hope they drill near Marty Griffin's(KDKA mornings) property - I'm so sick of hearing him saying that water & wells being contaminated is a LIE, It's a LIE! Wonder what he'd say if his "babies" got sick from it.

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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:45 PM
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23. I got into an email exchange with our local state senator the other day.
He claimed that there was no need to regulate the "fracking" industry because it has been proven to be completely safe.

I sent him information (including various links from reputable sources) on the Halliburton Loophole and Cheney's part in the whole EPA Clean Drinking Water Act farce. He replied that I was wrong on every point and that I had fallen for an internet conspiracy theory against the gas drillers. He also claimed that he had never taken money from any of the companies in the Marcellus Destruction business.

He never got back to me after I sent him the link that showed that he had in fact received money from them. BTW, this is John Eichelberger who infamously declared that "gays should be allowed to exist".

Science and facts mean nothing to these idiots. I'm not religious, but God help us in PA.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:31 PM
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24. Marty Griffin is one of the slimiest reporters in the Pittsburgh area. His wife
is one of the broadcasters or anchors -I think the nit-wit on the 5:30 news Christine Sorensen.
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 10:44 AM
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14. Pathetic
“You recently sent information to the U.S. Secret Service webmaster regarding threatening messages posted on Craigslist-Pittsburgh. The site has been taken down and we are unable to view the threats. Do you have a screen shot of the threats?”

So, like the Secret Service does not have the technical knowledge or even ordinary browsing skills to be able to find cached copies of the site.

??????
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:41 PM
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19. KDKA News said he just turned himself in. He said he did not intend to harm them. Then the
announcer said he probably will not be charged.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:03 PM
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20. He's lucky if Service doesn't press charges
Another clown got 27 months.

A Texas man who threatened U.S. President Barack Obama on Craigslist has been sentenced to 27 months behind bars.

Brian Dean Miller, 43, of Dallas, Texas, made the threatening posts on the classifieds site in March, after the Obama administration passed the controversial health-care reform bill.

Titled "Obama must die," the post read: "I am dedicating my life to the death of Obama and every employee of the federal government."

Miller posted another message later that day that read: "I am actively working to kill the president and destroy the U.S. government."

http://www.torontosun.com/news/world/2010/11/02/15917911.html
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