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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 01:35 PM
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Supreme Court Declines to Lift Military Ban on Gays
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 01:44 PM by Hissyspit
Source: Reuters

Supreme court declines to lift military ban on gays
Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:30pm EST

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Supreme Court on Friday declined a request to lift the Pentagon's ban that prevents openly gay men and women from serving in the U.S. military, rejecting a request by a gay rights group.

The high court denied the request by the Log Cabin Republicans that sought to lift an order permitting the Pentagon to continue enforcing its "Don't ask, don't tell" policy that requires gay soldiers to keep their sexual orientation private.

Read more: http://us.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AB46T20101112?ca=rdt
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 01:39 PM
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1. here
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:19 PM
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2. while the Pentagon develops transition plans for accepting openly gay soldiers.
God on a Triscuit! Transition plans? They're merely gay, not LEPERS!

This country is not even a toddler when it comes to sex! A super organized organization that can wage war in other countries and kill people with drones is scared to death of someone because they like cock! The Evangelicals are a greater risk to the military than a woman who refuses to wear a dress.

Stupid to the point of embarrassment.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 05:07 PM
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4. What really gets me is that they seem to think we will act like dogs
if given a chance..some will there are always some.
Like straight guys are afraied we would subject them to the same ooglin and nasty comments and possible rape. Believe it or not most of us have some restraint, or how the hell could gays serve and not get found out for the most part?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 04:15 PM
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3. HEY!!! WTF is the Supreme Court weighing in on this if the Prez
can change it with a wave of his hand????

He could lead on the matter, but the law is the fucking law.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 06:30 PM
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5. Because Obama opened a can of worms that led to the Supreme Court.
The law is the fucking law.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 08:20 PM
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8. I was wondering about the original DADT thingy that came out of the
Clinton Administration.....Wasn't that a law??

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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 09:25 PM
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9. He can't change the law with a wave of his hand. It takes a
majority in both houses of Congress approving DAFT repeal - and then the bill goes to the President for signature. He disagrees with it but has never said or implied that it's unconstitutional - and he was the Constitutional Law Professor.

He could simply refuse to follow the law and the risk of impeachment would be low; however, the next President might not feel the same way.
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haifa lootin Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 06:41 PM
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6. If there was a 4th branch of government, the other 3 would be falling all over themselves
tossing it into THAT jurisdiction. I'm just so proud of our dear leaders for working so goddamn hard for equality.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 07:03 PM
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7. Surprise, Surprise!!!
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:09 AM
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10. Military gay ban intact (SCOTUS Refuses To Stop Enforcement Of DADT During Review)
Source: SCOTUSblog

UPDATE 1:51 p.m.: Military gay ban intact

(UPDATED) Without noting a dissent, but with Justice Kagan not taking part, the Court denied a gay rights advocacy group’s plea to block the military from enforcing the 1993 law that bars gays and lesbians from serving openly in the services. The order means the policy will remain in effect at least through March, unless Congress repeals it — an unlikely prospect.

UPDATE 1:51 p.m. The Supreme Court, without noting any dissent, agreed on Friday to leave the military’s “don’t ask/don’t tell” policy in full effect while its constitutionality is under review in a lower court. Justice Anthony M. Kennedy referred the issue to the full Court. Justice Elena Kagan took no part in the order.

As a result of the order, the policy will remain in effect at least through mid-March, unless Congress in the meantime voted to repeal it legislatively — an unlikely prospect, according to most observers. The Ninth Circuit Court is reviewing a federal judge’s decision to strike down the policy and to impose a worldwide ban on its enforcement. The Circuit Court’s briefing schedule, however, will not be completed until late February or early March, and a hearing and decision would come after that.

The order Friday technically denied a request (application 10A465) to lift a Circuit Court stay of the judge’s decision — in order words, the Justices were asked to allow District Judge Virginia A. Phillips’ ruling to go into effect pending the appeal in the Circuit Court and, perhaps ultimately, in the Supreme Court. Because the Justices’ order was a complete denial, it meant that they had turned aside not only a plea to block the policy in full, but also an alternative request at least to stop the Pentagon from ordering any discharges under the policy during the appeal.

While it was not a surprise that Justice Kagan had opted not to take part in the order, that was nevertheless a significant development. It raised the prospect that, when the constitutional challenge reached the Supreme Court, the Justices might split 4-4 on it; that is always a risk when only eight Justices are taking part and the issue is a deeply controversial one. Should the Ninth Circuit Court upheld the policy, that result would simply be affirmed, without an opinion, if the Justices were actually to divide 4-4 in reaction to it.

Justice Kagan, in her former role as U.S. Solicitor General, had taken several actions on cases testing the constitutionality of the “don’t ask/don’t tell” policy and those actions, presumably, led her to disqualify herself. That is a choice left entirely up to each individual Justice.

Read more: http://www.scotusblog.com/2010/11/new-plea-to-end-military-gay-ban/
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:09 AM
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11. Is the Senate going to take this
up or not? I keep hearing different things. Do we have the votes?????
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