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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:17 AM
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Kucinich to force Congress to vote on withdrawing from Afghanistan
Source: Raw Story

Kucinich to force Congress to vote on withdrawing from Afghanistan after news Obama will extend war to 2014

By Eric W. Dolan
Thursday, November 11th, 2010 -- 10:07 am

Kucinich to force Congress to vote on withdrawing from Afghanistan after news Obama will extend war to 2014President Obama said he would begin withdrawing troops from Afghanistan in 2011. Now, the Administration says 2011 is still in play, but has begun floating the year 2014 as a more "reasonable" date for the war's end.

One Congressional Democrat is not happy.

Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) blasted President Barack Obama Wednesday over reports that he is planning to de-emphasize the July 2011 deadline for the withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan.

"When the new 112th Congress convenes in January, I will immediately enter a privileged resolution that will force Congress to vote on setting a withdrawal date," Kucinich said. "The withdrawal of our troops must be driven by Congress, not the corrupt president of Afghanistan."

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/kucinich-tears-report-afghan-pullout/
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:34 AM
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1. GO DENNIS....Keep the issue front and center. Force the MSM to discuss it. eom
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:46 AM
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2. K&R For a man who sticks to his principles,
in an atmosphere when nearly everyone else caves to big money.

:kick:
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:49 AM
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3. It would seem that Kucinich would have a better chance of succeeding
if he were to bring up the issue in Congress now, rather than wait
till January, when there will be fewer Democratic representatives.
But, I suppose he has his reasons for waiting.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:55 AM
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4. Fewer Blue Dogs in Congress in January. Better to force that vote when there will be a clearer
ideological distinction between the parties with regards to Afghanistan.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 05:29 PM
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19. The reason you gave does make sense politically. I was also
thinking about the number of people being killed, and the
expense of a longer war.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 05:45 PM
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21. I don't think he believes his effort
will succeed in immediately bringing the war to a close. Rather, the best outcome would be through forcing a vote on withdrawal, and exposing those quietly working behind the scenes to perpetuate the war. Nothing will change until the public starts to get ugly about it. The public won't get ugly about it until outrage builds as a result of becoming more informed. That is where actions such as this come in. My 2 cents anyway.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:32 PM
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25. It will take a long time before the public gets ugly about the war.
The Republicans have had about half a century's preparation. Their 90%
ownership of the MSM today assures them that they can continue their
brain-washing of the American people for a long time to come. Evidence
of this is that about half of the people believe in their most outrageous
and stupid lies - lies that even a thinking 15-year-old can detect.

Things may be hurried up a little, when through debate in the House, the
truth comes out into the open. And the millions who listen only ato
Fox news will get the shock of their lives when they learn the truth for
the first time -- things that they have never heard from Fox News before.

I sure hope things will turn out this way. And millions of Republicans
will lose trust in their leaders, and a back-lash ensues.

Am hoping for and looking forward to that day.
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guyton Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:59 AM
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5. How about withdrawing in 2010
President Hamid Karzai said at a conference in the Afghan capital that Afghan forces should be able to operate independently of foreign troops and secure the country by 2014.

And we believe this Iranian-cash carrying toady? Really???

Or as Dennis says ...

Our presence there is counterproductive, it keeps our troops in harms way and it opens to the door for the expansion of the massive corruption of the Karzai regime.

Pick one. I know who I believe.

Bring the troops home now!!! Not 2014, not 2011, bring them home by the end of the year!
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 11:06 AM
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6. I agree
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 11:09 AM
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7. Thank you, Mr. Kucinich, for being a Man of Action and Principle
:applause:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 12:57 PM
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8. One of the only spines in all of Congress stands up.
Thank you, Dennis.
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briteleaf Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 02:06 PM
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9. Balancing our checkbook
Beyond past political promises. When we can't afford to go out to eat, americans stop going out to eat. Well, it's not just the war in Afghanistan, but also the war in Iraq. When we can't afford to continue financing these major, Bush blunders, we stop. Since nobody seems to even consider the thousands of soldiers who have been killed and the tens of thousands who have been maimed, let's just look at balancing our checkbook. I know it's created a lot of jobs for Halliburton and Black Water but those are very expensive and we just can't afford them anymore. It's a shame to leave 2 countries in shambles but less shameful than to continue the longest wars in our history when our economy is struggling to avoid collapse. Does it take a depression to convince us that we cannot continue to afford these 2 unwarranted wars?
My wife taught me that the best way to save money is not to spend it. What does it take for america to decide to stop paying the price of these 2 wars?
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 02:33 PM
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11. briteleaf..Excellent. I can only add the over 1,000,000 dead Iraqis.
And no telling how many homeless and displaced. The babies being born deformed due to depleted uranium. Time to stop spreading our unique form of democracy.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 06:32 AM
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27. the politicians go to war without any consideration of what the people want.
anything you want the govt to do, you will have to force them to do. period.

when you figure out how to do that, you'll be ahead of everyone else.

though i might suggest feet meet street x many millions.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 02:27 PM
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10. the corrupt president of Afghanistan
A Bush and CIA Plant


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Tripmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 03:14 PM
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12. If only there were more like you sir!
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 03:17 PM
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13. K&R
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 03:20 PM
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14. God bless Dennis, my representative (and I'm an atheist!)
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Michigan-Arizona Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 03:24 PM
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15. Once again THANK YOU Dennis K.............! n/t
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 03:36 PM
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16. good luck dennis.
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 03:43 PM
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17. Go Dennis. We need to get out of that neck of the woods altogether.
Bring all the troops home. Then start taking care of the citizens of this country.

Our warmongering days should be long over.
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 04:46 PM
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18. Dennis was my favorite Mayor of all time. But Dennis, what took so long. The war is my almost only
disagreement with the president.
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humblebum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 05:41 PM
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20. A must to cut the deficit. nt
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 06:48 PM
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22. Go Dennis!!
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 07:12 PM
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23. K&R! Please let this happen... Kudos to Dennis!
:patriot:
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Celtic Raven Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 09:57 PM
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24. K&R for Dennis
:kick:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:34 AM
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26. Make it happen! n/t
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 02:34 AM by Catherina
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