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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:43 PM Original message |
Kerry blames out-of-touch voters for Democrats' midterm image troubles |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. They should be angry...at the Republicans. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
96. Besides voting no, what did Republicans have to do with the so-called health care reform bill? |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #96 |
189. You think that's why voters are angry? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #189 |
194. Mischaracterize much? Your post implied Republicans were to blame for all |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #194 |
197. Most voters are angry about the economy. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #197 |
205. IMO, terms like "economy" and "deficits" are too abstract for many. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #205 |
222. Not saying Democrats didn't push it along... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #222 |
239. Actually, you strongly implied, more than once, that Republicans and only Rs were to blame. |
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dogfacedboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 02:06 AM Response to Reply #222 |
261. It goes back way before Bush II. He was just the latest incident. n/t |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #205 |
264. you're kinda saying what Kerry said....paying attention to details loses out to slogans |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #96 |
204. That is exactly the problem - because HCR is very unpopular as it is |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 01:28 AM Response to Reply #96 |
251. A bunch of their ideas made it into the final HCR bill. |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #251 |
273. No, what happened is that health care costs went UP and not down. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-29-10 01:04 AM Response to Reply #273 |
274. The question at hand: |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well John, then change the Media Ownership issues and political funding. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Kerry co-wrot ea finance campaign bill with Wellstone in the 1990s |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
54. He has to work harder. I know he did that. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
97. That was before 2004. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #97 |
268. You wanted Dems to NOT run in 2004 under the same campaign finance rules as Republicans? |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
73. Agreed! |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kerry knows all about "out of touch"! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
75. Oh, you mean like how he responded so rapidly to the 'swift-boat' innuendo that |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:34 AM Response to Reply #75 |
89. His next career will be as a Posturpedic salesman. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #89 |
170. Nice way to treat a genuine American Democratic hero |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #89 |
265. yeah...IranContra, BCCI, CIA drugrunning reports were boring...unlike the gripping Starr Report |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:10 AM Response to Reply #75 |
95. Kerry is out of touch with reality |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:24 AM Response to Reply #95 |
98. I don't think he threw 2004. I think he's wanted to be President since JFK. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #98 |
122. Then why did he take so long to respond to the idiotic 'swift boat' ads? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #122 |
125. You would have to ask him and Shrum. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #122 |
175. He responded immediately - the media did not cover much of the response |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #122 |
270. That's a false claim. Kerry countered swifts...and when he used a planned speech to attack them |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #95 |
174. You are completely wrong on nearly every point - and need to get over the 2004 primaries won by the |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #174 |
192. I never said he hasn't done some good things lately |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #192 |
218. His face looked "perfectly ok"? |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #174 |
193. MadTV summed up Kerry's flip-floppy, wishy-washy, half-hearted attempt |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #193 |
217. Mad TV is a not serious analysis - the fact of the matter is that |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #75 |
169. As an Obama surrogate |
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Moonbat2 (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
77. You are right |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #77 |
124. millionaires cannot be working men's representatives |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
99. Has Kerry denied saying what the Herald quoted him as saying? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #99 |
116. Exactly why |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #116 |
123. I never said he (should or shouldn't) deny it. Try reading posts in context. My post was a reply |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #123 |
245. The TITLE of the article misquotes Kerry - and yes I know there are no quotes there |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #245 |
257. I don't understand what you mean |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #99 |
267. Do YOU deny that media's hyped up coverage of teabagger slogans are misdirecting anger? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
103. pocoloco said nothing about Obama's election. Far more likely pocoloco meant 2004. |
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Mickeyc1004 (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
179. I agree. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
226. +1 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #226 |
227. Well, that's your opinion and |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #227 |
228. Deleted message |
ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #228 |
230. Sounds like you don't really like him. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 10:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
266. Kerry did his job, McAuliffe's DNC did NOT, and big-name Dem 'leaders' sided with Bush over Kerry. |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. The quality of the followership is most definitely |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. The quality of the leaders is |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. President Obama is an exceptional leader |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. you wish |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Well - one of them passed a health care bill - the other failed |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. you talk of things that are not even legally in effect yet, try waiting to see |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
164. Kerry did challenge many irregularities in the early voting |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:02 AM Response to Reply #38 |
92. Did the Clintons begin their process by meeting with health insurers, big PHRMA, etc.? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #92 |
153. The Clintons started their plan with some |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #153 |
207. "Great leadership rarely can fairly be assessed while it is happening." I don't know about "rarely' |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:27 PM Response to Reply #207 |
246. There was absolutely not a common feeling that LBJ was a great |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
236. Health INSURANCE bill -- not health care. Even your icon admitted that much. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #236 |
238. "If he's "exceptional", your standards are far too low." |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:31 AM Response to Reply #17 |
76. well, not really. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
102. Emily g said nothing about Obama. A Party has one official head, but many leaders. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #102 |
165. True she did not say Obama - but if she did not intend to include him, |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #165 |
212. You can know exactly what she would have done if she were not referring to Obama? |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
221. Did I mention Obama? Interesting |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
101. +1 |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
155. The leaders are picked by a vote! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. He's not saying they shouldn't be - he said it is directed at the wrong people |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. blame the voters. thats a sure way to win. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Kerry is about the 6th most liberal person in the Senate |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
93. Which may say more about the nature of the Senate and the success of the DLC types |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. He isn't blaming voters for anything. He is stating there is a need for more dialog and better |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
240. He is not blaming voters for being inattentive and therefore being influenced by a slogan, |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
61. yes, that would be an intelligent start............ |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
158. Of course the voters are to blame if you don't like the leaders! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #158 |
214. I don't know of anyone who ever voted R because D's were not liberal enough. |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. Kerry strikes again |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Link please? |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
55. From 2009 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:54 AM Response to Reply #55 |
82. What happens after a poster provides a requested link is telling, as to |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 08:18 AM Response to Reply #82 |
105. That somebody from MA would use the word of a GOP propangandist to blame |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Actually, I don't know Hillary Chabot and have no clue what you're referring to. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #109 |
126. You're right. You have been way too busy attacking anybody defending Kerry |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #126 |
128. also false. I have not attacked a single poster on this thread. Not a one. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #128 |
132. LOL. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #132 |
188. Wrong. At least you’re consistent! |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #188 |
206. Sigh. Whatever. You clearly have more time to lose than I have. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #206 |
215. LOL, how many times are you going to say bye (and while you're so busy working for Patrick, too)? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #206 |
237. No, you lost the argument and are backing off. As you should. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
177. Kerry voted with Durbin |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #177 |
220. Really? |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #177 |
229. He provides reasons why other senators may have voted no |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #229 |
247. I concede that you are right in saying that Kerry disagreed with Durbin's frustrated comment |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Huh? I don't recall any of what you claim. Please provide proof . |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
56. From 2009 |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
181. You would wish that Senator Kerry would disparage his colleagues |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
11. I blame out-of-touch politicians |
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bluedigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
14. Is it not the duty of the Democratic leadership |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. The media is assisting the Republicans in distorting the message |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Exactly. One example is Health Care reform. |
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mazzarro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
39. A Liberal Counterpart To Faux News Is Needed |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #39 |
52. We do need to be able to counter the RW BS as soon as it is being spun. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
80. We do have MSNBC and some radio, but yes, the R's have INVESTED in media MUCH more than our side. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 05:29 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. "We" do not have MSNBC. It is Republican owned and managed. It |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:53 AM Response to Reply #19 |
64. Deleted message |
RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:57 AM Response to Reply #64 |
83. DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC yawn....snooooooooooze....bla bla bla. Try another meme. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 05:49 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. The Kerry/DLC "meme" is 100% accurate. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:27 AM Response to Reply #86 |
118. BS |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #118 |
129. Right back at your post. Your chart is selective and also does not address |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Really? Want me to address your point? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #130 |
135. Yes, I'd love for you to address the points in my links. Why on earth didn't you? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #135 |
138. Oh, I did address your point |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #138 |
145. I did not like that your alleged response was unresponsive, no. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #145 |
149. Really? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #149 |
200. As I said you missed the point. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #200 |
202. No, I didn't miss your point. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #202 |
216. LOL, sure you missed it. You kept insisting I was trying to portray Dean as something other |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #130 |
196. Me to - great post |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #129 |
195. Your content has little to address |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #195 |
231. In your opinion, perhaps. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
187. I notice that your quotes are not from Kerry |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #187 |
233. I notice you do not provide a single link to support your attempts to discredit the three links I |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #86 |
272. Poorly researched articles - DLC supported TWO candidates, Lieberman and Edwards. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
87. .... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #87 |
198. My point was the points that sacastly addressed questions to "John" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #198 |
234. Wait. Let me try to get this straight. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
41. Is it not the duty of the electorate to develop the skills... |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
63. no, they stuffed the electronic ballot boxes, THAT is why we got 8 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:07 AM Response to Reply #41 |
111. U.S. voters incapable of listening and reading explain the 2000 and 2004 elections? In what reality? |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #111 |
136. Sorry. That's not what I meant. n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #136 |
235. And I'm sorry if I misunderstood. |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
62. yes, that's one of their duties, to get their side heard & also to represent |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
156. Oh for God's sake |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
15. I remember Pres. Clinton saying when voters think, they elect Democrats. |
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Barbara2423 (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
16. I agree with Kerry. One other thing that made us mad is our |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #16 |
90. Obama cutting backroom deals with the health insurance industry and big pharma .................... |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #90 |
140. We were wrongly told that HCR would get fixed "later" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
18. It's amazing how people keep letting the RW Boston Herald |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Thank you. Now, I think we need to all go and set the Hill straight. |
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MBS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Thanks, Prosense. You said it all |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Excellent points |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
107. What point? Please see Reply ##s 99 and 106 |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Do you have Kerry's complete statement? n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. No, but it looks like |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. So, the Boston Herald ignored what the bill did for MA and is trying to create a media circus |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 08:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
106. The VERY brief OP contains language identical to what you quoted, so what's your point? See Reply# |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
23. He's right. The way to solve it is to get the message out non-stop between now and the election. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 08:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
108. ?? The DNC and leading Dems should always be getting out the message. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 07:46 AM Response to Reply #108 |
254. Might be because the media prominently discussed each of the Palin tweets, while |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
26. Is'nt really our fault. I mean really, we are petchulant, uniformed, lazy, |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Technically speaking |
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DFLforever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
27. He's right about voter anger |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Yes, he is. n/t |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
28. "A lot of the anger today.." |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Kerry has honestly spoken of the anger people feel since at least 2005 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
119. Some people feel anger. That's undeniable. Why they feel it is a matter of opinion. |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #119 |
142. Will you agree that everyone hates HCR (as it passed) ? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
35. hahah, what Kerry said was proven in so many replies in this thread |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:56 AM Response to Reply #35 |
65. You're right. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #35 |
159. Thank you! |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
208. Thanks, |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
37. Let's see... 20% unemployment |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #37 |
51. I am unemployed, but I am smart enough to realize why it was important to maintain our banking |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:58 AM Response to Reply #51 |
66. the tarp money just staunched the wound temporarily, they should have |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 03:02 AM Response to Reply #51 |
69. Good God.. Care to Explain the Ponzi Scheme for us? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:15 AM Response to Reply #51 |
115. Holy false dichotomy, Batman! |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
40. WTF? Out of Touch? Try out of work and out of time! Jesus f'ing Christ... |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 03:03 AM Response to Reply #40 |
70. No Shit.. Kerry is a Jackass for this remark. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #70 |
110. Hmmm? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #70 |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
43. FWIW, I think Kerry meant this as an explanation... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Agreed. It sounds like blaming voters but that's not John Kerry. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. No, Kerry wouldn't do that. But the media... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Nope. He doesn't fit easily into the polarized, black and white cr@p |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. And actually used it... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 03:06 AM Response to Reply #45 |
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icnorth (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:32 AM Response to Reply #71 |
100. I can't imagine how John ever lost that election |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #100 |
121. RW talking points? n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #100 |
148. I don't think Kerry did lose that election. n/t |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #100 |
263. EVERY legislator votes for/against a version of a bill before they vote against/for another version |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
242. You are the first on this thread to say he may have been misquoted. I agree this is a possiblity. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #43 |
53. I agree. He was offering an explanation and the repubs seized on it like a derogatory statement |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
49. All the RW regulars picked up on this "story". Doesn't that say something to you and the others who |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. No one needs to be called out. And if you can show how the article is wrong |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:02 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Just the fact that it appears in the Boston Herald with the headline it does should be proof enough. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #59 |
147. I'm familiar with the Boston Hurled. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 03:11 AM Response to Reply #49 |
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veganlush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
50. he's right of course...n/t |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
58. He really means ignorant voters & he is right. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
60. Not a big Kerry fan but he's right on this |
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Eric Condon (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
68. . |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
74. No, sir. The Democratic Leadership is to blame for their own situation |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:49 AM Response to Reply #74 |
81. There has been a GREAT legislative performance, but yes, their messaging does need work. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 05:42 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. I would disagree... |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:38 AM Response to Original message |
78. Scuba blames out-of-touch Dem Leaders for medterm image problems. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
79. He is criticizing the MSM/Fauz News/Corporate noise machine and saying that they need to be angry at |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
88. Kerry puts millions to sleep. |
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rustyd55 (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
91. he is right for once |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
94. Actually, I think the reverse is true. If we hadn't been paying attention, |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
104. Did I land in freeperland by error? Boston Herald should be a clue |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:09 AM Response to Reply #104 |
113. "Kerry's statement is totally uncontroversial. " Seriously |
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MBS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #104 |
127. " " " " " "n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
112. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Deleted message |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. So you're here jumping on Kerry for making a excellent point |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #120 |
131. Kerry did not make an excellent point. Kerry is wrong. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #131 |
133. "Elitists "? Hmmmm? Can you |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #133 |
134. You can play word games all you want, |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #134 |
137. You can't link to where he said anyone was stupid because he didn't say it. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. If people would see progress from this administration |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #139 |
141. So you think that people are |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #141 |
152. People know that HCR has not helped them yet |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #152 |
157. Hmmm? |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #157 |
161. Read the new "contract" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. Question: |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #162 |
166. No |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #166 |
172. Let them expire |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. Screw the Americans who earn the least? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #176 |
178. Wait |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #178 |
183. There are ONLY two choices, let the Bush Tax Cuts expire - or not. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #183 |
184. "You want them to expire." Damn right |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #178 |
185. In January low income workes will have 50% more tax withheld |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. "Who will they blame?" |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #186 |
190. No one has heard of "Make Work Pay tax credits" |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #166 |
199. You are misleading yourself by speaking of percentages without looking at the numbers |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #199 |
203. The Bush Tax Cuts reduced the lowest from 15% to 10% |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #137 |
144. Kerry is misunderstood often |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #144 |
146. "What he means and what America hears are far too often very different. " Hmmm? |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #146 |
168. I don't understand your question. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. "John Kerry seems to only be well understood in MA." |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #171 |
191. If no one understood Kerry outside MA, there would have been no need |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #168 |
244. Well - Prosense (from her profile) and I are from NJ |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #144 |
150. Senator Kerry is the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #150 |
173. That is my point, exactly |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #173 |
180. That you don't like John Kerry and don't follow that committee |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #144 |
243. It is not true that every time he speaks, it is misunderstood |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
143. How about blaming the media for the crap they spew in 15 sec soundbytes? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #143 |
151. Which speaks to Kerry's point, doesn't it? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
154. He's right, and it's been the case for decades. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #154 |
160. Unlike yourself, Senator Kerry DID NOT SAY voters have no right to be angry. n/t |
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clarence swinney (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
163. Clinton to Bush to Obama |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
167. Elitist twattle. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #167 |
201. Finally some sense in this thread - that's exactly what it is. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #201 |
210. That's certainly how it was framed by the headline |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
182. While I respect Sen. Kerry, he is dead wrong. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
209. stupid ass comments |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #209 |
213. Actually, Kerry's comments were spot on. Look |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #213 |
224. then find some other way to reach them |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #224 |
241. The Republicans have an echo chamber of talk radio, much of cable news and |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #241 |
249. Hey how about that Clinton era media deregulation! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 07:27 AM Response to Reply #249 |
253. Very, very true - it allowed the echo chamber to grow |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
219. "out of touch" voters? Out of touch VOTERS?!?! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #219 |
223. Twenty percent of Americans think President Obama is Muslim |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #219 |
232. anna, look at what he said: people are misled by slogans |
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Yeahyeah (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
225. The word from the street. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
248. I agree with something in almost every post on this thread. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 09:21 AM Response to Reply #248 |
256. Comically misleading link-baiting headline of the day |
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Francesca9 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #248 |
259. very insightfully analyzed |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
250. Voters are just as ignorant as they have ever been ... |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
252. I agree. We need to drive the message home again and again, especially the economic |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
255. And to prove that Kerry was right: |
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JoeyTrib (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
258. "The recession is over." |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
260. Normally, you do pretty well John, but you popped that one up right into the pitcher's glove. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
262. It's the In Touch Voters One Has to Watch Out For |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
271. howzabout half-liberal, aristocratic politicos who voted for the IWR |
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