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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:33 AM
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Illegal immigrant sues over lost custody of child in Mississippi
Source: Associated Press

Illegal immigrant sues over lost custody of child in Mississippi
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Friday, August 13th 2010, 4:00 AM

JACKSON, Miss. - Mississippi officials conspired to take the infant of an illegal immigrant from Mexico so the girl could be adopted by a white couple, a civil rights group charged Thursday in a federal lawsuit.

The Southern Poverty Law Center said Cirila Baltazar Cruz was separated from her daughter, Ruby, for a year before her child was returned to her in 2009 after the intervention of the group.

Cruz had the baby at Singing River Hospital in Pascagoula in November 2008. Two days after the child was born she was taken from her mother when the Mississippi Department of Human Services deemed Cruz unfit, according to the lawsuit.

Cruz - who spoke no English and little Spanish and could not read or write - was interviewed by a hospital interpreter. The interpreter spoke Spanish, not Chatino, a dialect indigenous to Cruz's native Oaxaca in rural Mexico, the group's lawsuit alleges.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/08/13/2010-08-13_illegal_immigrant_sues_over_lost_custody_of_child_in_mississippi.html
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:34 AM
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1. she should get millions and shouln't people go in prison over this
for kidnapping ?
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Lightning Count Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:58 AM
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3. That depends.
On what the truth is.

According to the interpreter:

"After talking with Cruz, the interpreter told one of the immigrant's relatives that Cruz was trading sex for housing and wanted to give the child up for adoption, according to the lawsuit. Cruz said in the court filing that she tried to explain to the interpreter she worked in a Chinese restaurant and lived in an apartment."

The question remains of how she planned on supporting an infant in a country where she was not a citizen when she spoke neither English or Spanish and could not read or write.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 10:19 AM
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4. There's American women who can't read or write having babies

And I don't see their children being taken away.

It's disgraceful you'd even try to defend this despicable act.
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Lightning Count Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:28 AM
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5. The benefits of being a US citizen though.
And this is still not addressed:

""After talking with Cruz, the interpreter told one of the immigrant's relatives that Cruz was trading sex for housing and wanted to give the child up for adoption, according to the lawsuit. Cruz said in the court filing that she tried to explain to the interpreter she worked in a Chinese restaurant and lived in an apartment."
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:44 AM
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8. And this is still not addressed
Edited on Fri Aug-13-10 11:46 AM by Tempest
The mother, Cirila Baltazar Cruz, was stripped of her daughter two days after birth at Singing River Hospital in November 2008, after being classified as "incapacitated" by the authorities of MDHS

The state better have a damned good explanation why she was classified as incapacitated.

Nothing you said and nothing in the two articles I've read has indicated there were grounds for declaring her incapacitated.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:36 PM
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11. You missed the part where the interpreter was speaking SPANISH
and not this women's language.

You read English, I assume.
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nalnn Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:28 AM
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2. In MS
This is the kind of 'good 'ol boy' system that still exists in MS. It's not what most people think of when they think of 'good 'ol boys' in Mississippi. It's the lawyers predominantly and the rest of the state peripherally.

I cannot imagine what this must have been like for the immigrant. Nor do I want to.

The thought of losing one of my children in such a fashion is chilling, but entirely believable given the kinds of people involved in the careers mentioned in the above article.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:34 AM
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6. How many have babies just so they can be adopted into
the US because they believe that, when grown, the child will support the birth mother.

I know several families who have adopted under that very circumstance.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:30 PM
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9. I saw a guy derail a train with his penis once. True story
Edited on Fri Aug-13-10 03:41 PM by Guy Whitey Corngood
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:35 PM
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10. This has to go into my "most disgusting posts ever" file. n/t
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:44 PM
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12. Don't be so naive. It's all part of the plan. Once the kids are rich enough they bring the
parents over. Who then blow themselves up in order to take our freedoms.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:58 PM
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13. WTF are you talking about?
Did you forget your sarcasm thingie, or are you just a flaming a**hole?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 04:29 AM
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14. Whatever would move you to even dream of speaking that way about people?
There's no content in it beyond hatred.

Wish you had the ability to think. It would change your life. It might not be important in the circles in which you travel, but you wouldn't get far around intelligent, decent people.

You "know several families who have adompted under that very circumstance."

Shame on you.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:40 AM
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7. Google translation of an article in Spanish:
Mississippi authorities sued for removing a Mexican immigrant 's daughter
EFE
,
Washington | few seconds ago

A human rights organization sued the state of Mississippi officials and a hospital for having removed a Mexican illegal immigrant to deliver her daughter for adoption to a couple Saxon , local media reported today .

The federal lawsuit filed by the Center on Poverty Law Southeast Department accuses the Mississippi Human Services ( MDHS ) , two of its officials and an employee of Singing River Hospital in the town of Pascagoula, of "violating the rights constitutional "of the immigrant in the separate her from her daughter based on "false accusations. "

The mother, Cirila Baltazar Cruz, was stripped of her daughter two days after birth at Singing River Hospital in November 2008, after being classified as "incapacitated" by the authorities of MDHS , the suit says .

That rating was derived from the report of a hospital employee , who interviewed in Spanish to the mother, who barely speaks the language and only dominates the Chatino , an indigenous language of the Mexican state of Oaxaca.

According to the complaint , the interpreter told authorities that Baltazar offered sex in exchange for room and wanted to give the child up for adoption.

The girl, Ruby , passed into the custody of Wendy and Douglas Tynes , both lawyers, until an investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services was returned to his biological mother in November 2009 .

"It was a very painful experience for me and my baby, " Baltazar said in a statement of the human rights organization . "So I want other people to know my story, I do not want anyone else to go through this experience. "

The Law Center claims that the defendants pay compensation and that demand is made public.

"The goal of this lawsuit is to ensure that Mississippi law applies equally and that the rights of the most vulnerable are protected , which in this case happened, " Michelle said in a statement Lapointe , attorney for Center .

http://www.adn.es/internacional/20100813/NWS-0905-Demandan-Misisipi-autoridades-inmigrante-mexicana.html
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