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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:29 PM
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9 Mercs Killed in Afghanistan
Source: Press TV

9 mercs killed in Afghanistan
Fri, 06 Aug 2010 22:56:33 GMT

At least nine members of a private security firm have been killed in a roadside bombing in eastern Afghanistan, local Afghan officials say. The bomb blast damaged a car carrying security firm workers in the village of Asmar in Kunar province late on Thursday, a Press TV correspondent reported.

Local officials said the nine people killed were working for a road construction company.

No further details on the nationality of the security guards who were killed have been disclosed. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, a spokesman for the militant group said in a statement.

Mercenaries of the infamous private security firm Xe, formerly known as Blackwater, have contracts to provide security in Afghanistan, but the private security firm that the nine men worked for has not been identified.

Read more: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=137719§ionid=351020403
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:37 PM
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1. You know, I don't have a lot of sympathy for these mercenaries who get tagged.
But then mixed feelings creep in. After all, they're real people with families who care for them.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:39 PM
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2. I feel sorry for the families

But screw them.

They wanted to play Rambo and now their families are paying the price.
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:43 PM
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3. thats cold - for all you know they were supporting their family with the only job they could get.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:52 PM
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5. It would be a shame for those whose services command, is it a million per year per head, to be able
to find a decent-paying job only in only Afghanistan, a real crying shame that would say so much about this country and its society. :cry:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 07:22 PM
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9. Maybe prison guard
was the only job some germans could get. Principles used to mean something.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 07:45 PM
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10. That's bullshit
$2000.00 a day to kill muslims Ya right
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 12:15 PM
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18. Statistically speaking, they were likely Afghans that were killed.
Considering 95% of the privately-contracted armed security personnel in Afghanistan are locally-hired Afghans.

Food for thought. Although the firm hasn't been identified, so there's not much way to even guess.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:53 AM
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28. Yes they will hire at the "market rate"
This is why (and you are right) probably 90% of the "contractors" (mercenaries) in the world aren't amerikan ex-seals etc.

There is a downside to this however----- a thug with a gun paid $30.00 a day is usually less reliably vetted than one paid $3,000.00 a day.

Just ask Anwar Sadat. (oops)
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 12:05 PM
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11. I personally know two former Blackwater employees who worked in Iraq

And the only reason they went was to play Rambo.

Read interviews by some of these guys. They didn't do it for the money. Most went to go kill "ragheads".
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armodem08 Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 12:08 PM
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12. Nope.
Most are ex-military that left to make MORE money.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 02:43 AM
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13. Ahhh, the concentration camp guard argument
"The only job I could get vas gassing Juden!"
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 05:19 PM
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20. So getting paid to do something absolves you of responsibility
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:53 PM
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6. I know what you're saying.
They don't really have to be there, they're just in it for the money. But doesn't the same thing apply to every member of our military? There is not one serving today who committed to their current obligation before the war in Afghanistan began. I've seen the arguments about how they don't have a real choice, that there's an economic draft, etc. But if they are thereby justified, doesn't the same logic exonerate the mercenaries?

Honest, I'm not pushing any hidden agenda. I'm just reflecting on this right now.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:44 PM
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4. I know what you mean.
But then I think of all the misery they have inflicted on people and then I say to myself, fuck them.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:57 PM
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7. Life was simpler when I was 10 years old.
Then everybody wore either black hats or white hats and I never had to trouble myself with nuance such as this.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 04:45 AM
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15. screw a bunch of mercenariness and the horse they rode in on
Edited on Sun Aug-08-10 04:49 AM by madokie
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 07:02 PM
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24. I do...reason why many join...
Edited on Sun Aug-08-10 07:04 PM by w8liftinglady
like my oldest son...who came back to a "Grateful Nation" after three tours in Iraq ...only to be unemployed and unable to make ends meet.He received an offer from a company who does mechanic work for the Army...and that is what he did..in Iraq.they were just getting ready to send him to afghanistan in May...he was like"hell,no-and came home"He made 75K for 6 months work.It will keep him alive while he's in college..Was I crazy about it?Hell,no...but I understood why it happened.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 07:12 PM
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8. Hmmm..do you suppose the contractor companies use dead peasant insurance?
Companies like Triple Canopy and other Blackwater clones brag of providing services all over the world.
A look at their web sites indicates they hire a LOT of people, and have sub-contractors who hire a lot of slaves from any number of 3rd world countries, for the real grunt work like building shoddy buildings and electrified showers.
Very tempting to have dead peasant insurance, don't ya think?
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 04:07 AM
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14. I wonder if the economy was downgraded on purpose
I wonder if the economy was downgraded on purpose so there would be a labour pool to risk their lives for these wars. Otherwise who willingly would risk life and limb?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 04:53 AM
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16. Good riddance!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 12:12 PM
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17. I have NO sympathy for Mercs.
Screw them.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 08:08 AM
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29. +1
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Phil The Cat Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:50 AM
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30. If they are foreign combatants OK
But if they are local security guards protecting a road building project - in other words, working class people - forced for survival to work in the capitalist system - than I have a problem with that!

The article is unclear whether they were active combatants, so I can't just jump on the bandwagon and say "F" them!

I know we need to quit "helping" them over in Afghanistan and Iraq by killing them. But is there anything we can do with humanitarian aid to REALLY help them? Or do we just get everyone and everything out and say "Sorry, here's a pile of cash, you are on your own now"?
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 03:23 PM
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32. Don't go bringing rational thought to the pile-on....
you'll just get pushed to the bottom of the heap.

I, however, do appreciate it.
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Phil The Cat Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:23 PM
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34. Most people here seem like good people
But some of the stuff I have read on here is like WOW!

Don't want to get into name calling, and I am not a mind or heart reader, but there are some here whose attitudes towards others are pretty harsh! Wishing people dead - even people who, as far as we know, might merely be trying to protect something good: road construction that Afghanistan needs to climb out of poverty!

Sure we want to stand up for ourselves, help our neighbors, but at the cost of xenophobia? Some, it seems, have a screw you attitude towards the rest of the world!

We need good jobs! Mexico and Latin America needs good jobs! Asia, Africa, Europe - everyone everywhere needs good jobs! Are THEY bad people for trying to get them?

The whole isolation thing, that WE are the only ones who need or deserve good jobs sounds SOOOOO teabaggish and hateful towards non-Americans!

I need a tuna melt and a cherry milkshake (but not the fat grams lol) after a couple hours here!
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Brooklyns_Finest Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 01:07 PM
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19. Very Ugly Thread
With post coming from very ugly people.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 05:20 PM
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21. You're no prize pig yourself n/t
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 07:18 PM
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26. pretty much
hateful comments



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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 05:26 PM
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22. Fuck em, even though you all voted for a government that said it would continue there
and use them.. so does that mean you are all fucking yourselves. Very nasty little thread.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:18 PM
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23. When your "security" people are getting blown up in bunches, it is not a good sign. nt
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 07:09 PM
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25. This is just a last gasp.
Edited on Sun Aug-08-10 07:28 PM by Prometheus Bound
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Phil The Cat Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 05:19 AM
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27. Are they mercs or security guards?
I feel for their families, but how many other families have these people destroyed?

I notice that this is a website from Iran, so I can imagine they know a lot more about Afghanistan than MSM since they are right there and are not bought out by MSFOXGEBPGM corporate whores and they want peace in their neighborhood, not greedy capitalist war. Looks like the only way to get the truth - idiots Beck and Limpballs won't do it - is to look outside brainwashed bought off US media!

We need to get our troops and spys and blodthirsty corporate whores out of there NOW so they can live in peace, love, and freedom and not be victims of a war for their oil and minerals!
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:10 PM
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33. Ummm, just checking, but....
"...so they can live in peace, love, and freedom..."

You were being sarcastic, right?
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Phil The Cat Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:25 PM
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35. A little sarcasm
And a little optimism!

I just can't handle pure darkness!
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:53 PM
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36. Just wanted to be sure I was calibrated correctly. Thanks! n/t
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nalnn Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 12:45 PM
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31. PressTV
I cannot recall ever reading a truthful article from PressTV.
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