Bike agenda spins cities toward U.N. control, Maes warns

[villager]

Source: Denver Post

Bike agenda spins cities toward U.N. control, Maes warns


Republican gubernatorial candidate Dan Maes is warning voters that Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper's policies, particularly his efforts to boost bike riding, are "converting Denver into a United Nations community."

"This is all very well-disguised, but it will be exposed," Maes told about 50 supporters who showed up at a campaign rally last week in Centennial.

Maes said in a later interview that he once thought the mayor's efforts to promote cycling and other environmental initiatives were harmless and well-meaning. Now he realizes "that's exactly the attitude they want you to have."

"This is bigger than it looks like on the surface, and it could threaten our personal freedoms," Maes said.

He added: "These aren't just warm, fuzzy ideas from the mayor. These are very specific strategies that are dictated to us by this United Nations program that mayors have signed on to."

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/election2010/ci_15673894

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And so it's true -- the GOP moves several light-years past the point where you can actually "satirize" them...

[Roland99]

1. wait...wait....what??

Getting people to ride bikes more (presumably even commute) and maybe add some bike lanes is taking away "personal freedoms"???

We are dealing with a truly unique animal in the right-wingnut mentality. Even Goebbels would be dropping his jaw at the downright lunacy coming out of the mouths of these right-wingnuts.

[Gormy Cuss]

7. As it is he probably sees too many young Latinos on bicycles for his liking

Bike lanes would just encourage them.
:banghead:

[Froward69]

22. Origional post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8876909

Maes is batshit Crazy.

[Froward69]

25. I forgot the PUNCHLINE...

Lance Armstrong is in town announcing a Pro Bike tour of the state...

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15675961

Armstrong, Ritter announce Colorado elite cycling race

The Quiznos Pro Challenge,

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15675961

:rofl: :rofl:

[happyslug]

35. No, Gobbels would call them Stupid and a few other nasty words

There is a story of a time when Hitler and Gobbels were watching a Stalin era Soviet Propaganda film. Gobbels and Hitler had a good laugh, not the film itself, but that Stalin did NOT understand Propaganda. Hitler and Gobbels, unlike Stalin, understood propaganda. When Gobbels took over the Movie industry in Germany in 1933, the movie makers made a movie where a young boy died fighting for Hitler and the Nazis. The movie makers showed the movie to Gobbels who hated it and called it a bad propaganda movie (which it was, being a version of what the Soviets were doing at that time).

What Gobbels wanted (and he implemented) was that Movies were to be made like they were in the 1930s. i.e. Boy meets girl, boy and girl are separated by the bad guys, boy and girl overcome the bad guys and become united at the end of the movie. Yes, typical Hollywood type movie. The changes were minor on their face, but effective. Germans and Nazis were always shown in a good light, people who oppose the Nazis (Communists and Jews) were shown in a bad light.

Gobbels had a habit of watching other countries film and commenting on them. For Example it is believe he saw "Casablanca" and called it the best propaganda film ever made. To this day people refuse to believe it was a propaganda film. The main story is the Classic "Boy meets girl, boy and girl are separated by the bad guys, boy and girl overcome the bad guys and become united" theme. On the other hand the messages Hollywood wanted to send out to the people was also driven home in the movie (We all MUST sacrifice to defeat the Germans, a constant sub-theme in the Movie). That what Gobbels wanted in his propaganda movies, a sub-theme of pro-Nazi so that people will see it and slowly incorporate that theme into their own psych.

The key to Gobbels type propaganda (And its modern version marketing) is to convince people to change their views. When movies were being shown people were polled going in and going out, if it was helping the Nazi Agenda what happened in the movie was done again, if it hurt the Nazi Agenda it was never done again. If this sounds like modern marketing, you are correct.

On the other hand Soviet-Stalin type propaganda was NEVER intended to convince anyone to change their views. It was always "We are better then you" type messages. It was NOT to change people's view but to strengthen the views of people already in the "faith" (Stalin era Soviet Propaganda is often called "Church Style propaganda" for a lot of Churches uses it to keep their flock loyal, but NOT to spread the faith. Most Churches do thus type of propaganda as did the Soviet Union under Stalin, its weakness is it is ineffective against "non-Believers" but does strengthen one hold on "Believers".

I go into the above, for Hitler and Gobbels rejected "Church Style Propaganda" for the more effective "Madison Avenue Marketing" means of propaganda. For many years so did the far right, preferring a Madison Avenue style messages that you are better off with the GOP in Control then the Democrats. Why the tea-baggers today? For the same reason the Far Right adopted "Church" propaganda in the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s, they were losing and needed to strengthen their base. If you have no message you revert to Church Style propaganda to keep your base intact (except for abortion, the Catholic Church and the Mainline Protestants along with the African American Baptist avoid Church style propaganda, they want to spread their message more then retain membership).

Thus the tea-baggers are more a sign that the Right Wing fears further decline and has NOT found out a message to stop the decline. You may ask why did the Left NOT do the same in the 1980s and 1990s? The problem was the left did, emphasizing all the harm the GOP was doing. The problem was the left is always under reported by the media and you heard the same old message, if you attended a meeting, but you did not even hear that outside such meetings (The right wing, having access to radio and television tends to spread its message far and wide, thus you had to look for the left reverting to Church like Propaganda in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, but when things started to turn in the mid 1990s the left was quicker to embrace the net then the right AND with the net able to spread its message via Madison Avenue Style propaganda with the net.

Right now, the right is trying to strengthen its base and waiting till it can change gears and go after Moderates. Thus the turn to Soviet Stalin Era Church Style Propaganda among the right. The Left is using Madison Avenue style propaganda to spread its message among nor only the left but Moderates. Gobbels would have been doing his best to switch the GOP to Madison style messages, but the head of the GOP are now so far right wing they can NOT send such a message. Gobbels would have left the GOP in disgust long before now so Gobbels would be dropping in Jaws as what the tea-baggers are saying, after telling them they will lose unless there change their message.

[aquart]

2. And this man is considered actually sane? By what standard?

[superconnected]

6. By the Republican Standard,.

It's kind of, "a whose the most nuts in a nut house", standard.

[Roland99]

3. Notice the poll there? 16.66% of 264 voters take the warning Very Seriously.

wow.

[skoalyman]

31. 16.66% of 264 voters gees

thats scary:scared:

[SoapBox]

4. What a crazy loon.

[LostinVA]

5. Where is my smug and self-righteous bike twin, Taterguy???

[mike_c]

8. that man is a caricature of himself....

That would be funny if it wasn't so paranoid.

[Dappleganger]

9. This is what happens when Big Oil is whispering into a politician's ear on a regular basis. nt

[Blue_Tires]

10. Denver could only hope to do so well

I was in Frankfurt, Germany last week for the first time, and was uttlerly shocked and jealous at how walkable-ridable the city is

[hvn_nbr_2]

11. Bicycles: the personnel carriers of gay blitzkrieging commie feminazis. nt

[damntexdem]

20. Yeah, it's no accident that they're called bi-cycles.

;-)

[activa8tr]

36. LOL.... I love it! Next thing you know if we let bi-cycles, we'll soon have

Tri-cycles wanting equal rights to the roads!

What is this nation coming to?

[nosmokes]

40. I guess it's the exhibitionists riding the tandems, eh?

[raouldukelives]

12. I have noticed in my riding that the angriest drivers

Are pudgy, white people in giant trucks and SUV's who scream obscenities at me as they pass. Even when I'm in one of the rare dedicated bicycle lanes here. Sometimes I wish they would stop so I could determine the cause of the frustration. I'm guessing it has to with the fact that seeing someone enjoying the sunshine and the roadway while not consuming any exploitable resource aside from bananas is a threat to humanity.

[Hawkeye-X]

13. Maes is a fucking idiot.

Thinks that it's a UN conspiracy to take over the world.

:rofl:

As if!

Dude, if you're gonna govern Colorado, make sure you STAY up to date as to what Coloradans like to do.

Hint: it's not with your johnson, my friend.

Hawkeye-X

[Ikonoklast]

14. "Two Wheels Bad, Four Wheels Good!"

My apologies, Mr. Orwell.

[Lightning Count]

15. I can only hope our cities could become more like Kyoto, Japan.

Bicycles everywhere.

[Javaman]

16. Damn, I think the real plan by the repukes is to force The Onion to close it's doors.

Look out repukes! Our panzer bicycle brigades are coming for you!

morons.

[Evasporque]

17. That must be why conservatives simply run cyclists down....nt

[Javaman]

19. If I biked in that guys district, I would be worried. nt

[nosmokes]

18. Hmm, I wasn't aware the bike agenda and the gay agenda were kissin' cousins.

Damn preverted peddling nonpolluting UN commies.

How in the world do these people get taken seriously enough to become a candidate for governor?

[davidinalameda]

21. maybe it's the altitude

and some people in Colorado just don't get enough oxygen to their brains

this guy is just a nut job

[Froward69]

23. Plenty of Oxygen here in Colo

maes is from Greeley (weld county DA)

DOWN stream from Denver (Its their tainted water)

[davidinalameda]

27. sounds about right

[nbcouch]

24. wholly at odds with reality

I contrast this idiocy, with its 50 supporters, with the couple thousand cycling enthusiasts who showed up about two hours ago on the west steps of the Colorado state capitol building for the announcement of a new pro cycling stage race, to take place in our state in August of 2011. This announcement, by Governor Bill Ritter and Lance Armstrong, was first publicized here just yesterday. Some photos:

http://bit.ly/akMW4E

And the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1cZl0c_enw

No UN overlord was found to be in attendance.

[KamaAina]

26. He may have a point.

Look at the UN seal.



What shape is that? Round. Just like bicycle wheels! :tinfoilhat:

:sarcasm:

[Nihil]

38. Dammit! I think you're on to something ...

... that logo has got *spokes* too!

:D

[maxsolomon]

28. The UN is fur it, so real Murkins iz agin it!

the delusion of "Energy Independence" is getting further away every second we are forced to tolerate this level of debate.

[onehandle]

29. Normally I would mock this person as crazy, but instead I say.

Fuck You.

I welcome positive outside influences.

Fuck you and your isolationist party of fear.

[Kolesar]

30. Dumbass Republicans really know how to alienate potential voters

Mexicans, gays, cyclists, atheists...

[Toucano]

32. Not the YOU-NITED NASHINS! Sweet baby Jesus!

Why the next thing you know they'll be makin' us eat a bunch of stinky cheese!


Truly, they are beyond satirizing. You can't offer something more extreme than their actual ideas.

[Liberation Angel]

33. I just threw up in my mouth a little...

a few years back i got involved with some critical mass folks I met in Denver.

There was a BAND called the Ginger Ninjas who powered their amps with bike generators and pedalled from gig to gig carrying up to 200 lbs of equipment EACH (amps, drum kit, keyboard, guitars, food, tents) and guerilla camped.

They did a 5000 mile tour from San Francisco to the Pyramids in Mexico.

I really need to share that video with you all

because this assh*le deserves to be ridiculed.

BIKES CAN change the world.

My cousin, a bicycle activist was killed a year ago on her bike btw - so this a-hole REALLKY pisses me off.


Checl out the Video of the Bicycle Ninjas Musical Tour with Zero Carbon footprint here:


(brb with link)

[Liberation Angel]

34. Bicycle Gypsy Lifestyle: Musicians, Electric Generators and F*ck this a-hole

See the video of the Ginger Ninjas 5000 mile Bicycle tour then google them:

http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberationAngels

I met them in Denver after the Critical mass Rally

This a-hole is right: Bicycles are a threat to the fascist NWO order and here is proof (watch the video)

[daleo]

37. Oh noes!

Commies on bicycles are stealing our precious bodily fluids.

[Jokerman]

39. First, they came for the skateboarders...

[catgirl]

41. Wow, I missed this

How fast these stories blow through.

These people are nuts. Truly nuts.

[KakistocracyHater]

42. I have the perfect reply: show a 1950s style group of little kids & teens

riding their bikes, then switch to today & have them dressed modern & still riding their bikes. Values, some things never change.