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Lightning Count Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 09:58 AM
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Cape Wind agrees to reduce cost of offshore wind
Source: CNET

Striking a deal with the state's attorney general, the developers of Cape Wind has agreed to cut the price of electricity from the proposed offshore wind farm in Massachusetts.

Massachusetts attorney general Martha Coakley on Friday said that it had negotiated a ten percent price reduction in the price Cape Wind will charge to utility National Grid for electricity. Over the course of the proposed 15-year contract, the reduction will save $456 million, according to Coakley's office.

The deal highlights how cost remains a large barrier to building offshore wind farms in the U.S. Added construction costs means that offshore wind is roughly twice the cost of onshore wind, according to analysts. A proposal to build a pilot offshore wind farm in deep waters off Rhode Island was rejected earlier this year as being too costly by state regulators.

The state utility regulators in Massachusetts are now considering whether to approve Cape Wind, which is vying to be the first offshore wind farm in the U.S. Supporters of Cape Wind argue that it will bring more renewable energy to the U.S. and will help establish a foothold for the nascent industry.

Opponents of the controversial project argue that it will hurt property values because the turbines, which will be five miles from the coast of Cape Cod, will be visible from the shore. Detractors now appear to be increasingly seizing on cost of the project. (more)

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-20012330-54.html?tag=cnetRiver



I fear this will never be built due to the NIMBY's.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 10:39 AM
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1. Turbine noise ruffling feathers in Falmouth
Edited on Mon Aug-02-10 11:06 AM by Submariner
It ain't working out land-side either. A neighbor is complaining about the turbine blade noise.

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100801/NEWS/8010336/-1/NEWS01

I guess nobody on the Cape is happy about these things.
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Lightning Count Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 10:42 AM
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2. Selfish people.
Why won't people make minor sacrifices?
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 12:05 PM
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3. If these projects were located in low income areas....
none of this would be an issue. Landfills, dumps, etc. etc. automatically get brought to the lowest income areas and nobody says a word.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 12:16 PM
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5. Turbine noise ruffling feathers in Falmouth
So.... they never suspected this?

Were they lied to? Was the company itself misinformed about the noise level? Do the homeowners have a case for the company, or whomever, to help them move? (In this market they could probably get a nicer home!)

Would they rather have a nuclear power plant next door? How about a coal burning plant?



Y'know, there seems to me to be no need to have turbines, or any of the other plants, right next door to anybody. Do you have to make the power a stone's throw away?


Jess askin'.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 02:10 PM
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7. The yuppies out on the cape and south shore have always opposed this
NIMBY mother****ers.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 12:07 PM
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4. A nuclear power plant is quieter!
and won't spoil the view. Just perhaps irradiate it.






Seriously, the huge turbines I saw driving though PA where beautiful, I thought. Everything was green. The hills were solid green and so were the growing fields. And on the ridge were these huge, slowly turning white things. They were awesome and, with the slow turning blades, dreamy. Like some CGI shot in a sifi movie.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 02:44 PM
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8. That is how I felt driving through the Iowa countryside. They are amazing. nt
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 02:50 PM
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9. Ditto on Altamont Pass
at the edge of the Bay Area.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 03:20 PM
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12. Ditto in eastern Colorado. The blades were HUGE... awesome... and...quiet. (Even IF
they made some noise, few people live there. And they look like they could be dismantled and the high plains would look the same as before.)

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zenprole Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 12:45 PM
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6. Swift Resolution
This project is still stuck? Tell the greedy hypocrites on Nantucket and the Vineyard that some eminent domain seizures are in the offing. Then see if they'll get out of the way.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 02:51 PM
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10. If offshore wind costs twice as much as onshore wind,
why don't we just build twice as much onshore wind? :shrug:
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 03:14 PM
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11. It shouldn't belong to the private sector anyway.
It should belong to EVERYONE.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 04:27 PM
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13. Britain seems pretty serious about offshore wind
I don't see why North America can't do the same.
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 07:42 PM
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14. Explains JFK keeping his boat in RI
Perhaps John Kerry is keeping his boat in RI not for tax dodging as the rethugs are saying, but because of the long-term desire to do his sailing elsewhere once Cape Wind is built.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:10 PM
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15. I hate the idea of desecrating one of the most beautiful spots on the planet....
I lived on Cape Cod for 45 years and raised my children and grandchildren there, and made many trips to Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket. I have traveled to many places from sea to shining sea in this land and the Cape is up there with the prettiest.

Oh, 10 miles up wind from the Cape there has been a nuclear power plant for many years. 1972? So the Cape will be surround with obscenities from the north and from the south.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrim_Nuclear_Generating_Station

If they build it, I hereby curse it and the greedy dicks who are building it for only one reason - money! They don't give a shit about the ecology or foreign oil dependence. Only profits.

I hereby instruct hundreds of nor'easters to take aim and send them all to the bottom of the ocean.

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Lightning Count Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:17 AM
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18. Wind farms are not desecration. nt
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Kringle Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 12:25 AM
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16. paying 3 times normal price for electricity, is insame .nt
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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 01:46 AM
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17. Hopefully the regulators will end up debating longer, that way Texas can be first...
with the offshore wind farm.
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