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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 09:59 AM
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Pelosi strikes confident note on midterms: 'I'm not nervous at all'
Source: The Hill

Pelosi strikes confident note on midterms: 'I'm not nervous at all'
By Elise Viebeck - 08/01/10 10:27 AM ET

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) defended House Democrats' prospects for November on ABC's "This Week" Sunday, saying that her members have a series of legislative victories to take home to constituents in August.

Christiane Amanpour, the new host of "This Week," quickly confronted the Speaker about comments made by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs' comments in June that Republicans could be successful in their effort to reclaim the House.

"I don't spend a whole lot of time thinking about what the president's employees say about one thing or another," Pelosi said of Gibbs' remark.

"We feel very confident about where we are, whether that's well known to that gentleman or not," she added later.



Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/112035-pelosi-on-midterms-qim-not-nervous-at-allq
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 10:04 AM
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1. she has a fabulous health plan and retirement so why should she worry? nt
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 10:58 AM
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10. Not really an issue for her - their family net worth is over $10 Million
From Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi

"The Pelosi family has a net worth of nearly $12.5 million as of 2008, largely from investments. In addition to their large portfolio of jointly owned San Francisco Bay Area real estate, the couple also owns a vineyard in St. Helena, California, valued between $5 million and $25 million. Pelosi's husband also owns stock, including $1 million in Apple Inc., and is the owner of the Sacramento Mountain Lions of the United Football League. Pelosi continues to be among the richest members of Congress"

Wiki Source for above is
Singer, Paul; Jennifer Yachnin and Kristin Coyner (2009-09-14). "The 50 Richest Members of Congress (2009)". Roll Call. http://www.rollcall.com/features/Guide-to-Congress_2009/guide/38181-1.html?page=6. Retrieved 2010-01-31.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:17 AM
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13. Certainly not good for "people" ... but Democratic Party has blockade of $$ to election . . .
Edited on Sun Aug-01-10 11:19 AM by defendandprotect
based on wealth -- that happened long ago --

average person hasn't been able to get thru in decades --

few exceptions --

and also based now on DLC corporate wing of party, selling the party and

its members to wealthy elites --

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:53 AM
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20. AH yes the Cliton Corporate BUTT BOY the DLC
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 10:09 AM
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2. I take it Gibbs is not on her Christmas card list..."that gentleman"..Telling..n/t
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 10:12 AM
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3. I think that's called "putting on a brave face"? Or maybe "bluffing"?
Because the facts shout something very different. Even in the best of times, history tells us that the Dems would be in trouble this year. And these are hardly the best of times.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 10:44 AM
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4. The Repubs had no trouble with mid-terms in 2002.
Of course they had Diebold helping them out in GA and numerous other places around the country.

Maybe the Dems shd find a Dem-friendly voting machine vendor.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 10:50 AM
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6. Apparently, they don't want one. Nor do they seem to have any interest whatever in
tougher election fraud laws.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:23 AM
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15. Hartmann says Dems don't want to address Diebold/Computer issues because . . .
they are concerned that if they tell Americans that computers are hackable then

Democrats won't come out to vote!!

How stupid is that for fear-based reasoning!!????

Evidently, it's been made a TABOO subject for all Democrats!!

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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:10 AM
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12. It's called being disingenuous, being in denial or just plain lying
in my house.

Nancy will have plenty of time to keep her appointments at the dermetologist and day spa when she's kicked to the curb at long last. Why the Dems in SF can't mount a campaign against her is beyond me.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #3
14. Agree -- and facts say that Pelosi has COMPLAINED about Obama's putting down Dems ...
and Gibbs' comments --

Rightly so!

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 12:20 PM
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28. I want her Valium.
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #3
75. I think it's called 'over-confidence'... n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 10:48 AM
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5. I posted weeks ago that I believe Democrats will do a lot better in midterms than the pundits have
been predicting. If Democrats do a decent job of messaging and a very good job on GOTV, they'll do fine.

Republicans have voted against a jobs bill in a recession; they have voted against extending unemployment benefits in a recession; they are opposing against health care for 911 responders and they have opposed ending tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 or 3% of Americans (while saying Democrats have to find a way to pay for extending unemployment benefits).

The wealthiest 2-3% of Americans can't elect them, but that's all they care to try to protect. Oh, yeah, and they supposedly support the Arizona "breathing while Hispanic" law.

I don't care what anyone thinks of the health insurance bill or the financial bill. If Democrats can't make hay with these other things alone, they ain't trying.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 10:56 AM
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9. You just don't get it do you?
It's all about jobs, jobs, jobs. Unfairly or not, if the unemployment is still high in Nov., we are going to pay a terrible political price, the economy is still in the toilet no matter what that fucking idiot Biden says. People don't give a rats ass about the HCR or Finacial reform or anything else if the economy is shitty and jobs are not being created, and don't give that shit about what Biden says about 3 million jobs being created, most are either temp., or part time jobs, but, what the hell, if Pelosi wants to live in fantasyland, be my guest, her job isn't threatened.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #9
16. "People don't give a rats ass about the HCR " --- Really?
Edited on Sun Aug-01-10 11:32 AM by defendandprotect
76% of the public put confidence in Dems/Obama passing a government run health

care program -- and numbers were still rising at time we were given health care "deform."

While I agree that Biden is another corporate Dem --

Pelosi, however, is far from living in "fantasy land" -- she has complained to the White House

twice about their put downs of Dems --

and she has given us a big clue in saying: "Obama was for a lot of things when he was

campaigning . . . that he is no longer for."

Obviously, she doesn't want to make this undermining of Dems by WH a public issue --

as yet -- ?



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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. She is living in fantasyland
and no matter what she or you say people don't give a rats ass about anything else except jobs and the economy, I work with the public in my capacity as a Firefighter/Paramedic and I know for a fact that HCR is not at the top of the list of concerns for americans, it's jobs, jobs, and more jobs. All the HCR in the world don't mean shit if you don't have a job to pay for it.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #18
22. Pelosi has COMPLAINED to the WH about all of this -- that's fact . .not fantasy land...
You may consider yourself a world class poller, cowman --

but we don't all necessarily agree with you!

By this name or any other -- you're still wrong --

:evilgrin:
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #22
31. I don't consider myself anything
but a realist and I'm sorry if you and others like you don't want to admit the truth, but the fact is that it don't matter what Pres. Obama has accomplished if the unemployment rate is still at 9.2% and the economy sucks, then the party in power, whether fairly or unfairly, will pay the political price and I see a tidal wave coming and for Pelosi to deny it is just plain dishonest.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #31
35. I agree on the economy . . .what's the point? Obama hasn't moved on that either -- !!
Whether you're talking about health care, or the economy or jobs -

not enough has happened --

disappointment enough for everyone --

however, I don't see anyone going back into the arms of fascist GOP --

more likely they'll play for time with pre-fascist Dems -- IMO!!

Pelosi is dumb to play the political game -- had she spilled her guts on TV, however,

would anyone like that better?

Maybe we would???

I'd like to hear her say that Obama is working against the interests of the Democratic Party!!



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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #35
38. I agree with you
What I think will happen is most of us will stay home
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 05:53 PM
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56. Think that's a serious possibility . . . . n/t
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #56
59. I think it's a definite
possibility, a bunch of my friends are staying home.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 08:16 AM
Response to Reply #38
72. EXACTLY
What is killing us right now is the motivation factor. It is NOT about educating people what has been accomplished beyond anything but getting our base to the polls. Few people will be swayed on who they support.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. I agree...
... and have been saying so here for months.

If the economy stays where it is until Nov, and it's almost impossible that it won't, the party in power will be punished fairly or unfairly.

Nobody gives two shits about HCR or ESPECIALLY the ridiculous Finance reform if they are not working or are in fear of losing their jobs.

Even Bill Clinton understood that.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. Obama and his team are directing economy . . . not Pelosi ... and Reid is still
doing the GOP the favor of letting them run "filibuster" threats on every bit of

legislation --

What you're saying is that the public is stupid enough to go backwards into the arms

of the GOP which created this fascist gang-bang?

Bill Clinton is one of the prime sellers of the Democratic Party to the corporate elite

interests!!

DLC -- remember that? Corporate wing of the Democratic Party?

Compliments of Clinton and Gore among others -- ?



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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. Yes..
... that is exactly what I am saying. If you think the electorate is rational, explain the re-election of George Bush.

Like many, you discount that the idea is to punish, it doesn't matter if the punishment is self defeating.

Also, with respect to the HCR, there is a HUGE contingent of folks that
HATE that bill "government takeover blah blah blah" but damn few supporters with the same level of intensity.

Why, because the wingers hate it for no reason and progressives are tepid about it for good reason.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. I wholeheartedly
agree with you. In my capacity as a Firefighter/Paramedic, I deal with this all the time and the vast majority of people I deal with hate this HCR despite what the pollsters say.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #32
44. You Know, Sir
Paramedics have been summoned to my home on several occasions. People asked me my symptoms, told me to get on the gurney, that everything was going to be fine, the usual sort of thing. No one talked politics, current affairs, not even sports....
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #44
54. "He's got a threading pulse and he supports Palin."
"Administer 5ml lidocaine and hand him a pamphlet. Stat!"
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #54
60. Now where
did I ever say that I support Palin?
there's a word for someone like you, it starts with an L and ends with an R
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #60
74. I wasn't even referencing you.
So blow it out your ass.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #44
61. Well
good for you.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #44
66. Yep...
...as if people in need of a paramedic will be striking up conversations about the minutiae of government policy. Not likely. Nor would it be appropriate for a health care provider to be engaging in political discussions with his patients.

I think we're hearing one man's opinion here, along with an attempt to bolster that opinion with claims that don't quite ring true.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #66
67. think WTF you want
Edited on Sun Aug-01-10 09:56 PM by cowman
I really don't give a shit what you believe. As we transport non critical patients I personally ask them what they think about the HCR just to get a pulse of the city and most people don't mind answering, of course I don't ask people who are injured like say in an auto accident or someone who is critical. By far there is a negative view of HCR and the biggest concern is the expansion of Fed Govt. Here in NV we are a fiercly independent state and don't really like the govt intrusion into our lives and thats one of the reasons Reid is in the fight of his life, he shouldn't even have to fight for his job against that maniac Angle, but it is what it is.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 03:14 AM
Response to Reply #67
69. Distinctly Un-Professional Behavior, Sir
Surprising your supervisors have not had a word with you concerning it.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 03:17 AM
Response to Reply #69
71. You beat me to it...
I posted essentially the same thing below - and hadn't read your post before I did.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 03:15 AM
Response to Reply #67
70. Seriously, I wouldn't do that if I were you...
"I personally ask them what they think about the HCR... and most people don't mind answering"

You don't know whether they objected or not. They aren't likely to tell you because they're in a vulnerable position.

People receiving medical services shouldn't be questioned about controversial issues by health care providers. They shouldn't need to be concerned about engaging in a potentially adversarial discussion when they're vulnerable. I was a professional for 30 years (now retired). Broaching such subjects with patients simply wasn't done, and for very good reason. It would have been considered highly unprofessional. This is why I questioned the veracity of your earlier statement. Clearly I was in error, and for that I apologize.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #70
73. This was awhile
back and it doesn't matter now because after 35 years I am retiring today, although I will still volunteer at our local FD to keep my Para license active until my wife retires in 3 months.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #32
45. Self-Delete: Double Post
Edited on Sun Aug-01-10 03:36 PM by The Magistrate
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. Relection of W in 2004 = Diebold computers --
Yes..
... that is exactly what I am saying. If you think the electorate is rational, explain the re-election of George Bush.


If you understand the computers and that they began coming in during the mid-and-late 1960's,

then you understand that we should be questioning every election back to Nixon/Humphrey --

which was another squeaker which changed the world for the worst.

And, by the way, this is the period of time when America was passing The Voting Rights Act!

Couldn't have been a more important time for elite interests to introduce computer hacking

into our election system while claiming a "Southern Strategy" -- !!





Don't get what you're talking about here --

Like many, you discount that the idea is to punish, it doesn't matter if the punishment is self defeating.

If you mean "punish" right wing Dems by targeting them -- I'm all for that --

underwise restate what you're saying, please.


Also, with respect to the HCR, there is a HUGE contingent of folks that
HATE that bill "government takeover blah blah blah" but damn few supporters with the same level of intensity.

Why, because the wingers hate it for no reason and progressives are tepid about it for good reason.



76% and MORE -- it was still rising at the time of the vote -- SUPPORTED a government run

health care plan -- and that included an even higher percentage of Catholics who were also

for the plan covering reproductive health care -- including abortion!

That would seeming leave at the most 24% of the store bought and PR run T-baggers hating it --

but they also hate Obama for racist reasons.

As for "no support" for a government run health care -- it was clearly heavily supported

-- again 76% general public -- Catholics same and if Latinos were included 86%!!

You didn't see the SUPPORT is what you're saying? Right --

Why? Because GOP creates astroturf support for their rw causes --

but the Democrats HIDE the support for liberal causes --

Did you see any Democrat -- or the President -- calling Democrats out to DEMONSTRATE for

MEDICARE FOR ALL? Did they distribute any buttons, maybe? "MEDICARE FOR ALL" --

or run any advertisemtns for Public Option or MEDICARE FOR ALL? Maybe I missed them?

Or maybe you actually think that citizens wouldn't have come out to support Obama if he

had actually been for MEDICARE FOR ALL?

Granted, Americans are way too non-political -- they're still waiting for their TVs to tell

them what's really going on. They still fear discussing politics and religion . . . in public!

That all has to change -- and let's hope they wake up to that soon.

Still too much trust of government --

the FDR days of security ended long ago --

Elites have had the New Deal in the crosshairs for decades!!





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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #33
55. I like your optimism...
.. but I'm unconvinced. We'll see in Nov and I hope you are right.

I do want to make a couple more points tho.

The fact that 76% claim to be in favor of something does not mean that they will GOTV based on that issue. The passion is on the "hate the bill" side, I hear it all the time.

I just don't hear any passion from the pro side. The pro side are mostly people like me, nominally in favor of the bill because it is better than nothing, but just barely.

All that said, I believe the economy JOBS will be the number one driver of votes far exceeding any other reason other than perhaps racism.

And I just don't see the jobs picture changing substantially before Nov.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #55
57. Well ---
Edited on Sun Aug-01-10 06:29 PM by defendandprotect
Actually, the public DID vote on the health care issue in '08 --

They thought they were electing Obama to pass national health care --

they were simply waiting for Obama to do it -- !!

AND, the public also voted on this issue back in the Clinton '92 election --

huge push then for national health care --

You remember "Hillary's" health care, perhaps, and GOP jumping all over her --

As I recall, Clinton tried at one point to get Medicare lowered to age 57, at least --

There's been interest in this subject since FDR/Truman -- it was part of the original plan.

As we see in the Grayson opposition there is a lot of passion -- to kill him -- coming

from the right wing. They're out there and noisy cause GOP is calling them out or PAYING

for them to be out there. You do understand this was set up and sponsored by GOP, right?

And that it is run out of a PR firm?


Let's sum it up -- Obama has done much less than what was needed on economy -- and bail outs

of capitalism are immoral. We should have taken over the companies -- kept the employees going.

The health care "deform" was absolute betrayal of the public --

And the only way this administration has made any attempt whatsoever to create jobs is by

financing them thru corporations!

We could create millions of green jobs, btw --

But Obama is throwing $36 BILLION in loan guarantees instead to nuclear industry!

Obama should be overturning the trade agreements -- that's what's sucking the jobs out of America.

And, we should be immediately restoring the New Deal restrictions on capitalism --

unregulated capitalism is merely organized crime!

And . . .

BP right now should be out of our waters -- never to return again!

Further . . .

What will the reaction of voters be to "The Cat Food Commission" if they come to understand it?


And if you are aware of the Pelosi controversy, she's bristling at Obama's attacks on Dems!

Attacks on Dems from the WH? That's helpful!

Also -- while it got quickly scrubbed from Yahoo -- about a month ago, Obama himself referred

to the situation as a "Depression" -- !!!




I like your optimism...
Posted by sendero
.. but I'm unconvinced. We'll see in Nov and I hope you are right.

I do want to make a couple more points tho.

The fact that 76% claim to be in favor of something does not mean that they will GOTV based on that issue. The passion is on the "hate the bill" side, I hear it all the time.

I just don't hear any passion from the pro side. The pro side are mostly people like me, nominally in favor of the bill because it is better than nothing, but just barely.

All that said, I believe the economy JOBS will be the number one driver of votes far exceeding any other reason other than perhaps racism.

And I just don't see the jobs picture changing substantially before Nov.



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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #18
42. Jobs is one issue among many...
"...people don't give a rats ass about anything else except jobs..."

People in general, and especially people with decent jobs and retirees (who tend to vote), sure as hell DO give a rat's ass about other issues - like health care, the ongoing erosion of civil liberties, spying on American citizens, net neutrality, not prosecuting war-criminals, war mongering, the cat-food commission, the disastrous war on drugs... They care about jobs too, but certainly not to the point where they don't give a rat's ass about everything else.

"All the HCR in the world don't mean shit if you don't have a job to pay for it."

Not true! When HCR kicks in, those with incomes near the poverty level will qualify for Medicaid. In other words, you won't need a "job to pay for it". This will be huge for people who find themselves in that position. You can go here to see how it will work:

http://healthreform.kff.org/SubsidyCalculator.aspx
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #42
68. Yeah whatever
you just keep believing that and I hope your right but I am a realist and I just have this horrible feeling like in 93 that we are going to get our asses handed to us again.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #9
46. What part of my post suggested to you that I don't get it's about jobs?
Edited on Sun Aug-01-10 03:38 PM by No Elephants
Was it mentioning the jobs bill first and the mentioning unemployment benefits twice? Or was it the way my post discounted health insurance reform and financial reform?

I also opened with doing a good job of messaging. What jobs program did the Republicans try to put in place? What will they offer if elected? More tax cuts? Less regulation? The same policies that got us to Fall 2008? The same alleged "trickle down" policies that keep making everyone but the top 2% poorer and poorer?

If the Republicans even looked as though they could do better on the economy in general or jobs in particular, I might retract my post. As it is, I affirm it, with the conditions it cites, namely, messaging and GOTV. Both will be critical.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 07:55 PM
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62. It doesn't matter that the repukes
don't have shit for a plan, it's the perception that the party in power don't have a plan, although it is unfair because the repukes keep obstructing everything coming down the pike, in Nov. if the joblessness and the economy still suck, well expect the worst, although after careful thought, I will vote nationally for the Dems and I will vote locally for what I think is best for our little town.
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:03 AM
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11. A combination of electronic rigging and the enthusiasm gap is going to kill us in November.
And Supreme Court authorized corporate spending.

It's going to be a tsunami for the GOP.

Republicans are energized and raring to go while Democratic voters are depressed, demoralized, frustrated and glum.

There is no passion on our side, no fire in the belly, no anger.

Anger and passion on the Democratic side are some kind of F*CKING ALIEN EXPERIENCE.

There is nothing motivating our side.

If half the Democrats stay home, as polls now predict, but two-thirds of Republicans vote, as polls now predict, we are going to lose seats no one ever DREAMED we would lose.

A tsunami.

Anthony Weiner got up on the House floor and got mad.

HE. IS. ALONE.

Everyone else in the party is acting like they do not know what emotion IS.

EMOTION IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS A CONDUIT BETWEEN INTELLECT AND ACTION.

If you do not have feeling, all the intellectual exercising remains an idle, sterile activity.

Republicans have the passion to get to the polls and we don't.

We are deer in headlights, road kill in the Fall.


The Republicans are worked up emotionally while we are placidly tapping our noses and studying for our PhD's in THINKOLOGY.






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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:53 AM
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19. How many questions did Pelosi get on computer rigging of elections by GOP?
Did Christiane Amanpour raise even one question on that subject?

Or is she not even aware that Germany has barred the use of these computers as

"Un-Constitutional"?



Obama had the momentum and "enthusiasm" at election and post-election -- and he threw

it away --

including doing the GOP the favor of resurrecting them from the dead -- !!

There may be a computer hacking "tsunami" for the GOP --

but don't think the public is stupid enough to go backwards into deeper fascism --

Democrats are "frustrated and glum" about Obama's actions - policies -- that's why

there is little passion for a repeat of Obama corporatism and slo-mo action on jobs/

economy.

But I do agree it is suicide to attack the base -- the liberals and progressives will

remain "motivated" to move government to the left -- but understand that is probably

going to have to be done without Obama and without other Democrats who have been

pre-bribed and pre-owned by corporations. But, you can believe, there is "motivation"

on the left. Just not for more Obama --

Doesn't look like Pelosi has much faith, either, in an Obama turn around as she let the

cat partway out of the bag at least once in saying re the disappointments from Obama's

WH . . . "Obama was for a lot of things when he was campaigning that he is no longer for."



A large part of elite/corporate strategy over elections has been to suppress the vote --

of all Democrats. Unfortunately, this WH is also helping to do that!


Anthony Weiner got up on the House floor and got mad.

HE. IS. ALONE.

Everyone else in the party is acting like they do not know what emotion IS.

EMOTION IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS A CONDUIT BETWEEN INTELLECT AND ACTION.


We need many more "screaming" Democrats -- I agree -- and it energizes the party and voters!

What you're really talking about here is "who owns whom" -- and money is keeping that

enthusiasm for a real "people's" government tamped down among those pre-bribed and pre-owned.


You have to temper some of this fear-based thinking with this reality . . .

the only way the right wing can rise is through political violence -- and we've had 50 years

of that -- and via stolen elections. There's no other way.

And evidently Democrats are too frightened of losing votes if they tackle computer fraud so

they've made it a TABOO issue for all Democrats!

Seems they think if they admit that our elections aren't exactly on the level that Democrats

will no longer come out to vote -- !!

As long as every opening though is "fear based" . . . we're going no where --

What there should be this November is a huge "anybody but a Repug" vote -- ABR --














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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 08:12 PM
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64. I agree
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 10:52 AM
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7. The biggest tip-off that she's anticipating huge losses that may
even cost her the speakership is any statement saying she's not nervous.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 10:56 AM
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8. I really like Christiane Amanpour as host of This Week.
I thought she asked great questions....and got the same canned political answers unfortunately.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:35 AM
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17. Would it be wise for the Speaker to admit WH has pissed off Congressional Dems?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 11:55 AM
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 12:05 PM
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24. You're casting a GOP/NRA "vote for Repug incumbent" . . . ????
It's been reported that Pelosi COMPLAINED to WH twice -- evidently in meetings with WH --

Did the interviewer mention that?

Because it's public knowledge and could have been referred to --

"and I plan to sit out this election except for our local elections."

So you're complaining about Pelosi and Dems not being "all fired up" but YOU are

planning not to vote on national level?


:rofl:

And while I also agree with you on Harry Reid who is Repug lite --

seems you're casting a GOP/NRA vote? hmmm....

I am going to vote for the repub incumbent because of his stance on the 2nd amend and civil rights while the Dem candidate is anti 2nd amend.



Wow -- !!


Just for the record --

It would
Posted by cowman
be wise to be honest with the base than fucking lying to us. We all know that she is lying about not being worried, if she admitted it then maybe, just maybe she could get us fired up. I live in a little town about 60 miles NW of Las Vegas and I can tell you that the repubs are fired up as hell while people like me are pissed off about whats going on in DC and I plan to sit out this election except for our local elections. Harry Ried is a weasel whom I wouldn't vote for ever again and for our Sheriff's race, I am going to vote for the repub incumbent because of his stance on the 2nd amend and civil rights while the Dem candidate is anti 2nd amend.



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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 12:41 PM
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:46 PM
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50. So You Are Voting Republican, Sir, Where You Vote At All?
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 07:57 PM
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63. I will hold
Edited on Sun Aug-01-10 08:00 PM by cowman
my nose and vote for Harry Ried but locally I will vote for who I think will do a better job for our little town which won't impact the national scene.
Sheriff Tony DeMeo has done a wonderful job as the Sheriff of Nye County and just because he has an R after his name doesn't disqualify him form being Sheriff.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 01:27 PM
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34. In Your Entire History Here At DU.......
....have you ever said one positive thing about a Democrat? If you have, I sure as hell haven't seen it. And thanks for sitting out of the elections---that speaks volumes about your character and about the real agenda you're trying to promote.....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 02:19 PM
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 12:13 PM
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26. "Nervousness is off the table"
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 12:20 PM
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29. Nancy "off the table" Pelosi isn't at all concerned
Her career is safe, which is all that matters to her.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 01:48 PM
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36. I think she may just be right...the idea "take back congress in November"
is very common on a lot of RW sites, usually folowed by,
"...and finish the job in 2012."

I will be quite amused when they fail in both of those efforts.

FWIW, I'd love to hear more of our "leaders" express a little more positive attitude...it would be a nice change of pace.

I like Pelosi much better than I like the President's "employees".

mark
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drgonzosghost Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 02:07 PM
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37. She needs to be replaced with Grayson!
Imagine if he were SOH....*man-crush swoon*
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 02:38 PM
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40. That would be AWESOME N/T
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 06:32 PM
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58. I'd go for that --
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SLCLiberal Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 02:46 PM
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41. No surprise
Well what do we expect her to say? That's she afraid she may get shytcanned?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:11 PM
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43. yeah and pink pigs fly..someone is very full of shit! eom
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:33 PM
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47. I never seen so many here that want us to fail in November...
It does help to note that they have in fact made significant strides towards bettering our current situation; it may not have been exactly what we wanted, but I do not see any reason to had over the Hill to the puke fucks.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:38 PM
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48. She doesn't have much to worry about.
Cook Report puts Dem losses at 32 to 42 seats, and it would take the upper end of that, 39 seats, for Nancy to lose her Speaker chair.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:44 PM
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49. And He Will Be Dropping That Estimate Further, Sir, as November Nears
The actual loss will be closer to fifteen, and most of them will be people we can do without....
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:47 PM
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51. Exactly! I think at the end of the night, progressives wil be happy with the upcoming elections.(nt)
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:51 PM
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52. By Halloween, Sir, What Doctor Johnson Said About Being Hanged Next Morning Will Be Operating
"When a man knows he is to be hanged in the morning it concentrates his mind wonderfully."
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 04:04 PM
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53. Too true. I'd like to more work put into the elections before the last minute, however.
Edited on Sun Aug-01-10 04:05 PM by w4rma
The DLCers shutting up and going away until after the elections would help greatly.
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miyazaki Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 09:29 PM
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65. Oh you rich old crone, you've had it. n/t
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