Toyota recalls 412,000 cars in US, mostly Avalons

[IDemo]

Source: Associated Press

OKYO — Toyota is recalling 412,000 passenger cars, mostly the Avalon model, in the U.S. for steering problems in which three accidents have been reported, the automaker said Thursday.

The 373,000 Avalons being recalled range from the 2000 model year through to 2004 and have improper casting of the steering lock bar — a component for the steering system — causing cracks to develop on the surface.

In some cases, the crack can cause the lock bar to break, potentially leading to a crash if the steering wheel locks, the world's No. 1 automaker by car sales said. No injuries have been reported from the accidents that may be caused by the defect, it said.

Also being recalled in the U.S. are 39,000 Lexus luxury model LX 470s for the 2003-2007 model years because of a steering shaft problem, which is different from the Avalon steering problem, according to Toyota.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hDJJgybG3tX3LdxLf_MoXHmOITXQD9H8M0A80

[Tesha]

1. Is it the plan to now post every automotive recall or is it limited to just...

...Toyota (and the occasional other foreign brand)?

Tesha

[madokie]

2. If Toyota hadn't stonewalled for years then this probably wouldn't be the case

but since they did I will post any and all recalls by them I run across, POS auto's that they are anyway.

They're still in denial about the reason for the sudden acceleration

[Tesha]

3. So in effect, yes, this posting of recalls is a vendetta targeting Toyota.

Thanks for admittng that.

Meanwhile, I suspect it is you and several other
posters who are actually "in denial" about the reasons
for the incidents of sudden acceleration.

Tesha

[Romulox]

5. What do you call your obsessive defense of Toyota?

Completely objective, huh? :rofl:

[Tesha]

8. Curious -- I've hardly defended Toyota at all here.

Project much?

Tesha

[Romulox]

12. LULz! (Lotsa links!)

These are in chronological order, as returned by google. What point is there is denying what anyone who knows how to use google can find out? I used to think it was simply to defend your own purchasing decision, but the second you cross the line into dishonesty (the ad hom is also a dead give away!), you're now simply shilling. :hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4468207

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7638749#7638968

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8749281

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4296905#4297347

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x514699#514755

[Tesha]

18. And what reason would I have to shill for Toyota?

As I said, I have no connection with them in any way.

What I dislike strongly are folks who are here to present
a wildly-unbalanced story, and it's clear that many of our
anti-Toyota posters fall into that category.

Tesha

[Omaha Steve]

22. Good job of doing it here in LBN Fri Jul-16-10 05:50 PM

Seems you know a lot of sales info about a car you don't own, defend, shill, etc. Like the Lotus body in reply 15. An never had a BIG 3 you liked? But then I've been accused of getting paid to post items that don't put Toyota in a good light here by others.

So this post on a steering recall is unbalanced? Or ALL the recall stories perhaps?

http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4468207&mesg_id=4468207

Source: SFgate

What had been previously reported, Tesla and Toyota made official
this morning.

They're developing an all-electric version of Toyota's RAV4.

"With an aim to market the EV in the United States in 2012, prototypes
will be made combining the Toyota RAV4 model with a Tesla electric
powertrain," Tesla said in an announcement. "Tesla plans to produce
and deliver a fleet of prototypes to Toyota for evaluation within this
year. The first prototype has already been built and is now undergoing
testing,"

Not especially exciting a choice as Tesla's Roadster or its forthcoming
sedan -- but likely not nearly as expensive either. As the company
noted in its announcement -- perhaps recognizing what the nascent
EV market will bear -- "Tesla's goal is to produce increasingly affordable
electric cars for mainstream buyers."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/bottomline/detail?e...


16. Chrysler products are horribly unreliable.

> we broke down and bought a town and country about two
> and a half years ago. ...though we have had a lot of break
> issues with this.

Chrysler products are horribly unreliable; we've owned a '96
Dodge Grand Caravan (the Dodge version of the Chrysler that
you own) since about '97 and we were sure it would never make
it to 100K miles. But it was always a bit cheaper to fix it than to
trade it away and when it wasn't being broken, it always did what
we wanted it to do (like move a lot of stuff) so we kept at it.

It's now made it to 199K and is starting to rust away. Strangely
enough, it doesn't seem to break down quite as often as it used,
or maybe we've just given up on expecting everything to work.
Lately though, it is intermittently showing us the ABS light so
there's another decision coming up in its future.

Even the newest Caravans apparently have the same lack of
reliability; Chrysler just never learns how to build reliable cars;
they're probably crossed off our list forever.

Tesha


12. Doubtful. A huge part of the Tesla's cost is its very-capable...

Lithium-Ion battery. This car will probably have a much smaller,
much-less-expensive batterry.

Tesha


15. It's the Lotus body. (NT)

[Omaha Steve]

27. I missed the deleted reply

Wish I had at least had the chance to read it.

[Name removed]

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[Omaha Steve]

16. You sure went after USA and the BIG 3 car makers in 2007

A long history of beating up made in USA and the BIG 3 and pimping Toyota!

http://www.democratunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2774351&mesg_id=2774958

Wed Mar-21-07 07:31 AM

Well, they care about the "USA" to the degree that they
can use nationalistic "America first!" jingoism to keep
the rubes buying their product. Without that, people,
through enlightened self-interest, would surely buy
something else (as has been pretty amply demonstrated
on this thread).

Tesha

[Tesha]

19. Your right: my experience with Ford was so-so and my experience...

with Dodge has been tragic.

And based on conversations with recent Chrysler/Dodge purchasers,
the product still sucks.

But that still doesn't excuse a very one-sided campaign that you
and your associates have waged and are still waging here on DU
against Toyota. The truth is far more complex than the caricature
that you routinely present.

Tesha

[blue_onyx]

6. Why do you worship...

a corporation that doesn't care about you? I'll never understand the blind loyalty people show Toyota.

You're the one in denial about the sudden acceleration problem. Toyota has even admitted they have quality problems and yet the company's loyalists refuse to deal with reality

There have been threads regarding recalls from the US automakers too. It just pisses you off that people are seeing the truth behind Toyota.

[Kolesar]

7. It is a peculiar form of self-loathing

In this case, it is loathing of American brands.

[Romulox]

13. I think that's close. I think it's a loathing of working people.

:hi:

[Tesha]

9. Worship? Hardly!

I don't own a Toyota now.
I never owned a Toyota in the past.
AFAIK, I don't own Toyota stock now.
AFAIK, I never owned Toyota stock in the past.

I just find the "post all the bad Toyota news" sort
of sad, a real reflection of how the US carmaker
have attempted to compete against "foreign" cars.

Tesha

[blue_onyx]

11. Did you also find it "sad"

a few years ago when post after post was a negative GM/Chrysler story? I bet not.

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[blue_onyx]

15. oh, i know

I remember her and many of the other anti-US automaker/pro-Toyota posters. For someone who doesn't love Toyota, she sure defends them a lot.

[Tesha]

20. Personal stories are quite a different kettle of fish, no?

But frankly, it's now manifestly clear that GM and Chrysler
were very badly managed, no?

Tesha

[Omaha Steve]

23. Toyota too, no?

Seems the President of Toyota knew when the company went way down hill. I posted that story a few weeks ago. :-)

And from today's story: The recalls of Toyota Avalon sedans and Lexus LX470 sport utility vehicles pushes the number of vehicles Toyota has recalled over the past year globally to nearly 11 million, marring its reputation for quality.

[Kolesar]

25. My sister-in-laws Corolla accelerated and rammed through the garage door and back wall

There is a "personal story" for you.

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[Omaha Steve]

10. So we should not want DUers to know about steering that locks up?

This recall is for 10 year old cars. Why did they wait 10 years? In Japan they waited 10 years on defective seat belts and air bags. Do you think these older recalls would be happening if Toyota didn't get the public's attention finally on unintended acceleration?

Floor mats and faulty throttles so far have got the blame for unintended acceleration. Strange you feel we are in denial when the two different US investigations have not finished their research into this.

But then Toyota's independent investigator changed the results and got caught. Their own USA manager was forced to retire when he said "we need to come clean on this"!

OS

[Romulox]

4. Toyotas are the highest quality cars on the road (if you're a non-reader.)

Favorites of low-information-drivers everywhere.

[madrchsod]

17. castings are cheap and forgings are expensive

the steering shaft problem is very interesting......

[No Elephants]

24. C'mon American auto makers AND Unions. May hay with this.

Made in America....Carefully.

Keep Your Family Safe...Buy American Autos

I remember union ads--ILGWU--when I was a kid: Look for the union label.... Both my parents were in that union and the ads made a very little girl's eyes and pride well up. We need ads like that again.

Let's do!