Document leak part of U.S. plot, says Pakistani ex-general with ties to Taliban

[Poll_Blind]

Source: Washington Post

RAWALPINDI, PAKISTAN -- From the deluge of leaked military documents published Sunday, a former Pakistani spy chief emerged as a chilling personification of his nation's alleged duplicity in the Afghan war -- an erstwhile U.S. ally turned Taliban tutor.

Now planted squarely in the cross hairs, retired Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul seems little short of delighted.

In an interview Tuesday, Gul dismissed the accusations against him as "fiction" and described the documents' release as the start of a White House plot. It will end, he posited, with an early American pullout from Afghanistan -- thus proving Gul, an unabashed advocate of the Afghan insurgency, right.

President Obama "is a very good chess player. . . . He says, 'I don't want to carry the historic blame of having orchestrated the defeat of America, their humiliation in Afghanistan,' " said Gul, 74, adding that the plot incorporates a troop surge that Obama knows will fail: "It doesn't sell to a professional man like me."

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/27/AR2010072705783.html?hpid=topnews

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Goes on and on. Hardcore.

[bemildred]

1. Sounds like a loon to me.

Not saying we should not listen to him ...

[Poll_Blind]

2. See that's the thing. He isn't. He's just relishing the slow-dive the U.S. is doing...

...and waving all the way down. At 74, he's gotta love the attention.

I imagine a Pakistani Dick Cheney.

PB

[bemildred]

5. Well he says this stuff is fiction.

So do we believe him or the stuff? I mean I know he's delighted, and he's not our buddy, but that doesn't mean he is level-headed or out to enlighten us with the truth either.

[Poll_Blind]

3. Here are some more brief excerpts from the article which is worth reading:

With the greatest detail yet made public, the leaked documents depict American views of Gul as a murderous terrorist agent. According to some of the documents, he possessed dozens of bombs for Taliban fighters to detonate in Kabul, instructed militants to kidnap United Nations workers, hatched a plan for a suicide bombing in Afghanistan to avenge an insurgent and assured fighters that Pakistan would provide them haven.
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The reports are unconfirmed. But they are hardly surprising to those closely following the Afghan war, or to Gul himself. On Monday, he described himself as a "whipping boy" for the United States.

Current and former U.S. officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, variously described him as "very dirty" and a man with a "horrible reputation."

PB

[AlbertCat]

10. Sounds like a teabagger to me.

[BootinUp]

4. Wouldn't be surprised

if this dirtbag doesn't make it to 2020.

[Jefferson23]

6. Poll Blind did you happen to hear this interview today on NPR?

Talk about defensive, if you haven't heard the Ambassador yet, I think you'll enjoy it.

Pakistani Ambassador Rejects Leaked Information

July 27, 2010
Among the information to come out of the leak of 90,000 intelligence documents related to the U.S. involvement in the war in Afghanistan is that Pakistan's intelligence agency, the ISI, has directly supported the Taliban. Pakistan's ambassador to the U.S. says in an op-ed that the leaked information is false. Robert Siegel talks Ambassador Husain Haqqani about the allegations.


Listen at link, 7 minutes, 3 sec.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128804274

[harmonicon]

7. Some day I'd like to see Obama play chess...

Since everyone from Pakistani intelligence officers to average DU posters keep going on about how great he is at it, I'm sure he'd make Deep Blue look like a piece of shit.

[cosmicone]

8. It is ironic ... whenever I said Pakistan was behind all the terrorism

in that region, I was flamed by Pakistan sympathizers on DU.

Taliban = Pakistani military + ISI .... a simple equation that somehow the State Department and the Pentagon seem to ignore and keep money flowing to Pakistan.

It would be easier if a few smart bombs destroyed Pakistani nukes and then we stopped all aid going to Pakistan. It would result in an automatic victory against the Taliban.

[JDPriestly]

9. I thought that the murder of Daniel Pearl in Pakistan pretty much

proved that the terrorists are in Pakistan. I have always believed that Pakistan is the protector of terrorism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pearl

[Ross K]

11. Document leak part of U.S. plot, says Pakistani ex-general with ties to Taliban

Source: The Washington Post

RAWALPINDI, PAKISTAN -- From the deluge of leaked military documents published Sunday, a former Pakistani spy chief emerged as a chilling personification of his nation's alleged duplicity in the Afghan war -- an erstwhile U.S. ally turned Taliban tutor.

Now planted squarely in the cross hairs, retired Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul seems little short of delighted.

In an interview Tuesday, Gul dismissed the accusations against him as "fiction" and described the documents' release as the start of a White House plot. It will end, he posited, with an early U.S. pullout from Afghanistan -- thus proving Gul, an unabashed advocate of the Afghan insurgency, right.

President Obama "is a very good chess player. . . . He says, 'I don't want to carry the historic blame of having orchestrated the defeat of America, their humiliation in Afghanistan,' " said Gul, 74, adding that the plot incorporates a troop surge that Obama knows will fail. "It doesn't sell to a professional man like me."

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/27/AR2010072705783.html?hpid=topnews

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Dontcha love it? Now even Pakistanis like Gul have picked up on the Republican meme: Like, sure, it was Obama who started and then neglected the damn thing! :puke:

[SpiralHawk]

12. The dude spouting Republicon memes is no accident

fer sure...

[Ross K]

14. Hey, maybe Sarah's got someone new to pal around with

Youbetcha!

[florida08]

13. you can't win a propaganda war

bring the troops home..stop giving money to these assholes. Why WAPO would even bother putting this up is questionable itself.