Pakistan Spy Service Aids Insurgents, Reports Assert

[mike r]

Source: New York Times

Americans fighting the war in Afghanistan have long harbored strong suspicions that Pakistan’s military spy service has guided the Afghan insurgency with a hidden hand, even as Pakistan receives more than $1 billion a year from Washington for its help combating the militants, according to a trove of secret military field reports to be made public Sunday.

The documents, to be made available by an organization called WikiLeaks, suggest that Pakistan, an ostensible ally of the United States, allows representatives of its spy service to meet directly with the Taliban in secret strategy sessions to organize networks of militant groups that fight against American soldiers in Afghanistan, and even hatch plots to assassinate Afghan leaders. Taken together, the reports indicate that American soldiers on the ground are inundated with accounts of a network of Pakistani assets and collaborators that runs from the Pakistani tribal belt along the Afghan border, through southern Afghanistan, and all the way to the capital, Kabul...

This month, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, in one of the frequent visits by American officials to Islamabad, announced $500 million in assistance and called the United States and Pakistan “partners joined in common cause.”

The reports suggest, however, the Pakistani military has acted as both ally and enemy, as its spy agency runs what American officials have long suspected is a double game — appeasing certain American demands for cooperation while angling to exert influence in Afghanistan through many of the same insurgent networks that the Americans are fighting to eliminate...

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/world/asia/26isi.html

[Spagettio]

1. Benazir Bhutto

It's been speculated that the spy agency was involved in her assassination. What do you guys think?

[iandhr]

2. would not shock me.

[nyy1998]

4. Same

[iandhr]

5. Sir/mam

love your user name NYY 1998. what a year

[nyy1998]

14. (Sir) 98 was a great year indeed. Last year was a lot of fun too.

[closeupready]

11. I don't see how the ISI would have benefitted from that.

n/t

[IDemo]

3. Hardly late breaking news

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2008/12/guest_blogger_sarah_chayes_on.html

[eridani]

8. It wasn't even late breaking news in 2008

Reagan and Bush the first supported religious whackjobs through the ISI for most of the 80s.

[The Magistrate]

6. Next, sir, the Times Will Discover That At Room Temperature, Water Is Wet

This is basic knowledge of the region and the conflict, known to anyone who has followed events there even loosely....

[Scruffy1]

7. Pumping more money into Pakistan will not solve any problems

The Pakistani military and ISI will simply steal it all as they have always done and continue to use it to maintain themselves in power and play the Taliban to thwart India. To continue this charade is criminal. Afghanistan will be Obama's Waterloo.

[SILVER__FOX52]

9. The is a disgrace......

We are, essentially, paying people to kill our troops. Has the Military and the administration lost their collective minds. The arrogance of these people are beyond description. Washington is so broken, they live in some type of Bizzaro world. I think some of these people, running the Country, are mentally ill. Man that's reassuring.

[closeupready]

10. Part of the explanation is also the financial conflicts of interest Congress members have.

For example, Dianne Feinstein's well-known holdings with defense contractors. I'm certain she's not alone.

[t0rnado]

12. Billions

Oh so the billions we give to Pakistan in "aid" are being used to buy the bullets insurgents shoot at our soldier with. That makes total sense!

Seriously, cut off all US aid to Pakistan. I can't believe that Bush gave Musharaff(A MILITARY DICTATOR!) billions of dollars, while attacking Saddam for being a military dictator.

[tuckessee]

13. And who aids the Pakistani spy agencies??????

You got it - the same people who are waging a global "war against terrorism".

Yet still the chumps buy into the charade.

[robertpaulsen]

15. US paying Pakistan to kill American troops?

Source: Times News Network

WASHINGTON: A treasure trove of US documents implicating Pakistan in its support for terrorism exploded in the public domain on Sunday, sending officials in both countries scurrying to defend a dubious alliance and straining a phony partnership based on a misreading of the ground sentiment and situation.

WikiLeaks, a whistleblower organization that publishes sensitive government leaks from anonymous sources, put a staggering 91,000 documents, mainly ground reports from US military personnel, in public domain on Sunday. Many of the documents exposed Pakistan's double-faced policy of fuelling terrorism in Afghanistan while claiming to be fighting it as an US ally.

In effect, the chronicles suggested that Washington was blindly paying Pakistan massive amounts of money for access to Afghanistan even as Islamabad uses its spy agency, ISI, to plot the death of American and Nato troops, allied Indian personnel, and undermines US policy. The most devastating leaks showed that Pakistan allows representatives of its spy service, ISI, to meet directly with the Taliban in secret strategy sessions to organize attacks against American soldiers in Afghanistan, and even hatch plots to assassinate Afghan leaders, including President Hamid Karzai.

Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/US-paying-Pakistan-to-kill-American-troops/articleshow/6221017.cms

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There's a phrase that comes to mind: false flag terror. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio">Operation Gladio, anyone?

[bemildred]

16. Not only that, but for quite a while now. Hmmm ... nt

[DesertFlower]

17. i'm almost 69 and i'm tired. i'm

tired of us always being at war with someone.

[xchrom]

18. How long has the U.S. Known the nations

Like Pakistan use extremists and terrorists
For the benefit of their foreign policy?

Well a lot longer than this conflict.

I'm these were considered acceptable losses.

[robertpaulsen]

19. Way before 9/11, that's for sure.

CIA and ISI together created Taliban: Zardari
PTI, May 11, 2009

WASHINGTON: In a new revelation, Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari has said that the CIA of the United States and his country's ISI together created the Taliban.

"I think it was part of your past and our past, and the ISI and CIA created them together," Zardari told the NBC news channel in an interview.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/CIA-and-ISI-together-created-Taliban-Zardari/articleshow/4508279.cms

Anyone wanting more info should google DUer Paul Thompson and read his research on this subject.

[EFerrari]

20. What it boils down to is, our MIC is so greedy

we probably fund both sides of any big conflict around the world.

[IndianaGreen]

21. K&R

We created the monsters that we fight.

[Overseas]

22. K&R. Exposing more of the ugliness of these wars.

There is so much cognitive dissonance around our relationship with Pakistan.

And their relationship with Sharia law. Theocracy.

Yet another reason to pull out and reassess.

We need a much smarter national security policy and I hope our president can take up that call someday soon. Surges are ugly and may create more enemies.

I heard that the 3 Cups of Tea guy has been lecturing our forces.

[Omaha Steve]

23. Thanks again to WikiLeaks!

K&R!

[DeSwiss]

24. K&R n/t

[unkachuck]

25. "US paying Pakistan to kill American troops?"

....thereby causing and curing war at the same time....

....modern perpetual warfare is very interesting....

[Haole Girl]

26. I am not surprised. (nt)