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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 03:07 AM
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Up to 50,000 students may be eligible to transfer......(Fla..1 county)
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 03:39 AM by SoCalDem

http//:www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/auto/epaper/editions/saturday/news_04566056a350d00100e7.html

Up to 50,000 students
may be eligible to transfer
School transfer option could affect 50,000 students

By Nirvi Shah, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Saturday, March 27, 2004



As many as 50,000 students at 64 of the poorest schools all over Palm Beach County could choose another school this fall if they don't make adequate progress under the federal No Child Left Behind Act.

Parents whose children attend those schools will be sent a letter next week advising them of the choice option. In mid-April, the superintendent will send another letter asking them to select alternate schools or decide to stay where they are.

The school district projected the number based on the schools where at least half the students receive free or reduced-price meals and didn't perform well last year. Those schools get extra federal money and are the only ones required to provide choices when students don't meet the standards.

The district must pay for the costs of school choice, including transportation.



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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 03:16 AM
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1. Concentrate students into ever larger districts, and then...
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 03:17 AM by kgfnally
...defund them into oblivion.


Here's what seals it:

The district must pay for the costs of school choice, including transportation.

It's perfect. :mad:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 03:41 AM
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2. Can you imagine the paperwork NIGHTMARES
that the teachers and office people must do now?? This is a massive "shell game".. Lots of the "bad students" will just get lost in the shuffle..
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 03:57 AM
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3. We don't have it
Palm Beach County simply does NOT have the funds to transfer and transport even 1000 of these students. Hell, we don't have the funds to deal with the situation as it is NOW. Furthermore there will be no more funds forthcoming fromn the state. Jeb wants to starve the local school systems so that the voter-approved class size reduction is overturned.

There is an elementary school less than a mile from my house. My understanding is that the school building itself has 16 actual classrooms. Outside of the building, where the baseball fields etc used to be, sits 22 trailers that had to be installed to deal with the excess student population. There are no funds to build new schools and no place to put the schools if the funds could be found to build them. There are poorer area than mine (a lot poorer in fact) whose problems are far worse. In Broward County to our south the problems are at least as bad and if anything finding land to put new schools on is even harder. I don't even want to think about Miami-Dade.

To top it all off, there is some clown running for office here locally on a single issue. He want to DOUBLE the homestead exemption, thus reducing everyones property taxes. We are flat broke and this Bushite wannabe wants to REDUCE the tax income we have. Bread and circuses for everyone!

Moron.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:49 PM
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10. And the tax cuts "we all got" could had been useful in that endeavor
Or at least relieved the burden on the states so they would not had shifted the burden from schools to other budgets.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 06:51 AM
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4. It's the Republican way!
The first thing you do is find somebody to punish.

:grr:
dbt
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:29 AM
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5. I say they flood the private schools for the next year, then come back to
the public school system the following year in order to reveal the flaw in this systrem.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:40 AM
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6. Wait until white-bread suburbia starts getting poor black children
into their private schools. Things could change real quick.:)
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toopers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:46 AM
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7. I doubt it.
I believe the private schools still maintain the right to expel students for bad behavior or poor performance.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:49 PM
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11. They don't even have to accept them.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:55 AM
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8. Wouldn't transfer students going into "better" schools dilute the latter?
If the transfer students who originate from failing school districts are combined with a school district whose test scores are all right, wouldn't that risk the latter system to those scores consequently declining? If the kids were "failing" to begin with, would two semesters (one year) be enough to bring them up to grade level and allow them to pass the "No Child Left Behind" tests and allow the system to retain its status as a non-failing district? I have my doubts?

This is a doublebind-Catch 22 situation. The proposed remedy does not allow for time both to give students (from failing schools) the education they need and to give the host school system time to effectively integrate (no pun intended) the new students and allow them to catch up.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 10:26 PM
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9. Bingo
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 10:26 PM by SoCalDem
It's all about just shifting the kids around..and after two or three moves, they are no "smarter" than they were before..and by then they have "lost" those years.. "Someone" made money from all their moves though..That's what it's all about..

If the pols were truly concerned about learning, they would provide TUTORS at no cost to the "failing" children...

Or they would reduce the class size so that the teachers had more time to teach..

It's about getting money for their buddies... the ones forcing the districts to buy more buses..buy expensive software to "teach" the kids...and to the owners of the new private schools that will be springing up everywhere..

The kids are the LAST ones to get any consideration..

They wave money in the faces of poor people when it's time to vote, so they vote yes..but they think that money will actually go to THEM...for their kids.. They are wrong..It just goes into the pocket of some "already rich" person..
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