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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 03:27 PM
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Classified documents reveal UK's role in abuse of its own citizens
Source: Guardian

Classified documents reveal UK's role in abuse of its own citizens
Previously secret papers show true extent of involvement in abduction and torture following al-Qaida attacks of 2001

• Read the classified documents here

Ian Cobain and Owen Bowcott guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 14 July 2010 20.43 BST

The true extent of the Labour government's involvement in the illegal abduction and torture of its own citizens after the al-Qaida attacks of September 2001 has been spelled out in stark detail with the disclosure during high court proceedings of a mass of highly classified documents.

Previously secret papers that have been disclosed include a number implicating Tony Blair's office in many of the events that are to be the subject of the judicial inquiry that David Cameron announced last week.

Among the most damning documents are a series of interrogation reports from MI5 officers that betray their disregard for the suffering a British resident whom they were questioning at a US airbase in Afghanistan. The documents also show that the officers were content to see the mistreatment continue.

One of the most startling documents is chapter 32 of MI6's general procedural manual, entitled "Detainees and Detention Operations", which advises officers that among the "particular sensitivities" they need to consider before becoming directly involved in an operation to detain a terrorism suspect is the question of whether "detention, rather than killing, is the objective of the operation".


Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/jul/14/torture-classified-documents-disclosed
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 03:34 PM
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1. Hopefully
they'll get Blair in court.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 05:55 AM
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6. Hope. It'll get ya every time.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 03:44 PM
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2. The UK has been absusing its own citizens
for some time. Take a good look at the Chagos Islands fiasco; like other governments, as long as the citizens are not white, they don't seem to matter. That includes my own government, who have had a part to play in what has happened to Haiti.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 03:40 AM
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3. Kick
:thumbsup:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 04:04 AM
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4. K&R
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 04:35 AM
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5. Now, if only we would do the same ... Oh, and RENOUNCE further Torture ("Change" that would be)
"Some are difficult to decipher, but together they paint a picture of a government that was determined not only to stand shoulder to shoulder with the United States as it embarked upon its programme of 'extraordinary rendition' and torture of terrorism suspects in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, but to actively participate in that programme."

"...with the United States as it embarked upon its programme of ... torture..."

What a shameful National Disgrace Bush has left as his legacy.

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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 08:18 AM
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7.  Classified documents reveal UK's role in abuse (torture & Abduction) of its own citizens
Edited on Wed Jul-14-10 07:08 PM by kpete
Source: Guardian

Classified documents reveal UK's role in abuse of its own citizens

Previously secret papers show true extent of involvement in abduction and torture following al-Qaida attacks of 2001

The true extent of the Labour government's involvement in the illegal abduction and torture of its own citizens after the al-Qaida attacks of September 2001 has been spelled out in stark detail with the disclosure during high court proceedings of a mass of highly classified documents.

Previously secret papers that have been disclosed include a number implicating Tony Blair's office in many of the events that are to be the subject of the judicial inquiry that David Cameron announced last week.

Among the most damning documents are a series of interrogation reports from MI5 officers that betray their disregard for the suffering of a British resident whom they were questioning at a US airbase in Afghanistan. The documents also show that the officers were content to see the mistreatment continue.

One of the most startling documents is chapter 32 of MI6's general procedural manual, entitled "Detainees and Detention Operations", which advises officers that among the "particular sensitivities" they need to consider before becoming directly involved in an operation to detain a terrorism suspect is the question of whether "detention, rather than killing, is the objective of the operation

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/jul/14/torture-classified-documents-disclosed
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on point Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 08:18 AM
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8. Notice it took place on American administered property....
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 08:18 AM
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9. Guantanamo papers: The UK's handling of detainees
Source: BBC News

Somewhere in London, there is a secure room where some 80 lawyers and officials are reading through 500,000 documents - and deciding which will see the light of day.

The work, with no clear end in sight, is part of what is fast becoming one of the largest actions in English legal history: an attempt by former Guantanamo Bay detainees to sue the British government.

>

The former Labour government rejected the allegations and promised to defend itself in the courts - but Prime Minister David Cameron is trying to get the six men to enter settlement talks to run alongside a judge-led inquiry into allegations of complicity in torture.

On Wednesday, the High Court rejected a government plea to suspend the men's legal action for three months in the interests of a potential settlement.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10641330



settlement talks ? I guess maybe they would settle for about 10 million each - pounds not dollars
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 08:18 AM
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10. k/r
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 08:18 AM
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11. K&R
settlements my ass.

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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 09:13 AM
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13. My Britsh friends have assured me that Britian does not torture
or abduct people. They got down right insulted when I told them the Bush administration is relying on Downing Street to show us how to deny and suppres evidence of torture like they have so successful at over the years.

Of course these are the same folk who claim that British rule was never overthrown anywhere in its empire at any time. Silly old English folk.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 08:46 AM
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12. BBC link
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