Boxer storms the state, bashing Fiorina on jobs

[bemildred]

Source: SF Chronicle

U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer pounded today on the issue of jobs in her first campaign barnstorm of the state, lambasting her GOP opponent and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina as a "disastrous" executive who laid off thousands of workers and shipped jobs overseas while earning millions.

Boxer, on a two-day state swing she called her "Jobs For California" tour, underscored her own enthusiastic support of the Obama administration's $862 billion stimulus package approved narrowly by the Senate in early 2009.

The third-term incumbent Democrat repeatedly emphasized that had Fiorina been California's Senator she could have been the difference between passage and defeat.

"If she had been in the Senate, we wouldn't have the Economic Recovery Act," said Boxer, backed by an army of hard-hatted construction workers at the Doyle Drive construction project in San Francisco, where she launched her nine-stop, two-day trip.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/06/MN6H1EA8N8.DTL

[XemaSab]

1. Two days is hardly a swing

:P

[bemildred]

2. Well! It's against the rules for me to change it!!!! nt

[saigon68]

52. Bookmarking this until NOV we'll see who had better insight then

[Name removed]

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[Tempest]

7. It's not the number of days that makes a swing, it's the number of stops

Boxer, facing perhaps her toughest campaign, traveled today from San Francisco and San Diego to Monterey, and plans to hit Palo Alto, Stockton, Fresno and Sacramento among her stops Wednesday

[scribble]

11. Boxer is blowing it

Two days is hardly a swing; and Barbara is very late to her own party. As clumsy as Carly is, she's been at it for a year -- and making a lot of headway in her loopy way. Barbara better take Carly seriously.

That's the general problem with Democrats. They don't answer Republican charges; letting apathetic moderates to assume that the krap they hear must be true, since Democrats stay silent so much. Barbara is a great example of a great Democrat who stays silent too often, assuming everyone knows what she's doing. Carly is a great example of what we get when Democrats stay silent.

Boxer and Brown better have a Lot more on the ball than I've seen so far this Summer -- which is HALF OVER NOW.

sc

[SemperEadem]

17. fiorina is going to step on her own dicque before this is all over

the fact of the matter is, no matter how much noise she makes, she cannot run from the fact that she ran HP into the ground and a person who makes decisions like that cannot be trusted with people's lives.

Perhaps the reason why it seems like Boxer has been silent is because she has been working, not showboating like fiorina, who seems to have quite a bit of time on her hands to make a lot of noise.

[obxhead]

87. Hmm I remember a guy that ran 14 companies into the ground....

If I remember correctly he was Pres for 8 years after doing so as well.

Never underestimate the people believing misinformation.

[SemperEadem]

104. that guy had the supreme court working as his goon squad

and that's why he was president for 8 years.

bush was selected, not elected.

[lunatica]

25. Or else what? Are you planning to take your vote elsewhere?

They're not late to the campaign. Barbara has been campaigning for a while now. She's been raising funds through emailing her base and guess what. She's met her fundraising goals and has launched her campaign. She knows we're behind her.

[Stellar]

31. S/he didn't sound like a vote that Boxer could count on

in the first place, if you ask me. :D

[Tempest]

35. Agreed

He's making assumptions based on ignorance.

And welcome to DU! :hi:

[scribble]

89. Thanks for the welcome ...

and I have a LOT more experience in politics AND at DU than you might think.

Zero in on what I said, boys and girls: Not who you think I might vote for. I like Barbara a lot, but she is often wooden and prickly on the stump and that won't help her at election time. She needs to buy a clue here: half the summer is over and she still thinks campaigning for three days in peoples' living rooms is going to get her enough votes to win a statewide election in a State holding 34 million people, where her opponent is ready to spend $100 MILLION DOLLARS to defeat her.

Focus, kids; focus.

sc

[Tempest]

93. My welcome wasn't directed at you

"and I have a LOT more experience in politics AND at DU than you might think"

Ah, right.

[scribble]

88. Soft Soap silliness

Everybody knows that in California, Republicans and Democrats don't determine elections. Independents do. Boxer is ignoring independents -- Fiorina is an idiot, but she still has visibility and it is helping her. This is working because Barbara Boxer does NOT know how to campaign.

sc

[lunatica]

98. Who is everybody?

Every candidate I've ever voted for has won. Independents don't mean shit in California. This is a blue state, carried by the Bay Area and LA.

[Tempest]

106. Shhh...

Don't let reality get in the way of his fantasy.

[Bluenorthwest]

26. Carly was running a loud, aggressive, wildly expensive

primary campaign. Boxer was not. Boxer has been busy being a US Senator, Carly has been busy promoting Carly with Carly's own money. She is revolting. CA is not that stupid.
The election is in November. The fall. Harping at people endlessly from the tube might seem like a good idea to Carly, as it is one she can simply buy, but voters are not fond of endless commercials for any candidate.
Boxer and Brown have between them won more elections than I can accurately recall. Neither has ever lost a general for CA office. Carly has never won a single general election. Carly has, in fact never run a general election. She's never had an opponent, never been in a partisan election at all.
I just remember how awful she was when she tried to surrogate for McCain/Palin. She was classic awful. At the time, I was surprised that such a smart person could be so horrible in such a simple role. Because of that, I expect great gaffe gifts from Carly.

[DirtyJersey]

43. Brown has lost a statewide election

He lost the Senate race to Pete Wilson in 1982.

[Tempest]

34. You don't know what you're talking about

As I said earlier, it's not the number of days it's the number of stops.

Carly making headway? You obviously don't live in California. I live in the most conservative part of the state and I'm hearing nothing but grumbling about her. If she can't get support here, she's doomed.

Why should the Democrats answer the insane comments being made by Republicans? They're doing a great job of showing America just how out of touch they are with the people. Just yesterday a Republican claimed that waiter and waitresses make over $100,000 a year in tips and wants to make them work for pennies.

Again you show your ignorance of California. Yes summer is half over. Which means Californians are STILL out enjoying themselves and not paying any attention to the races. Let Carly and Whitless waste all their money now.

[Grinchie]

72. Do you have a link for that? I'd like to frame that on my wall

$100,000 a year as a waitperson.

Thats almost as funny as McCain offering $60 an hour to any american the would pick lettuce for a season.

That backfired on him big time. $60.00/hr would buy an air conditioned, lettuce picking suit, complete with air filtration system to keep the pesticide residue out of your lungs! And you'd still end up with a tidy sum.

As I recall, Carly was advising him by that time, so I guess they are hoping the Xanax prescriptions for the sleepwalking american public have doubled since then.

[Tempest]

95. Here you go

Minnesota GOP candidate for governor Tom Emmer falls in the second camp. Speaking to reporters yesterday, Emmer proposed cutting the minimum wage for service workers who receive tips, such as bartenders and waiters. In order to justify the cut, Emmer said that some of these employees earn “over $100,000 a year,” and even make more than the people who employ them
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/06/mn-gop-minimum-workers/


Carly's involvement with McSame is another reason she can't win in this state.

[Grinchie]

101. Incredible.

The Image of a man talking out of his ass comes to mind.

Thanks for posting the link. I may just print the story and post it on the bulletin board of a local cafe.

[scribble]

91. Whoops. Missed me.

Stop the ad hominems. Focus on what I said and why you agree or disagree.

For your information, I've lived in California (both North and South) since 1968. I know the politics here (and around the West) pretty well.

Stop taking the easy way out and focus on the problem I raised: Boxer might lose because she is out of touch with her constituents and lacks campaign skills ... or would you rather just make up something about who I am, and attack your own fanciful strawman?

I agree that Carly has her own problems. She needs to hold a minimum vote in eleven Bay Area counties and is likely to get half that vote, because we hate her here... maybe she'll get ten or fifteen percent, which is pathetic even for a Republican. Tom Campbell would have carried 40 percent here; maybe more. Carly is a narcissist, a personal and professional failure and a borderline sociopath, but Carly knows how to campaign. As screwy as she is; what she says will carry the independent vote outside the Bay Area -- if Barbara doesn't get herself into the race in a big way starting NOW.

sc

[Tempest]

97. Yawn

I have yet to meet someone who is involved in California politics and believes Carly can win.

And my political ties to the state are much deeper than yours.

[Grinchie]

102. Hell of a way to sell Carly to us all.

The only one jumping up and down is you, and for some perceived lack of exposure? Wake up.

[LynneSin]

37. Um, you do realize this is just the first of many swings that Boxer will do

And last time I checked Senator Boxer has a job too - that takes place on the other side of the country.

I'd like to call this a good start! Fiorina's past is going to haunt her in this campaign. She left HP disgraced and there are probably thousands of Californias who watched their good paying HP jobs be shipped overseas for cheap labor.

And although Carly will brab about how she 'beat cancer' that's alot easier to do when you have millions in the bank. If you're an unemployed California trying to make ends meet you're pretty much screwed.

[kestrel91316]

41. Summer is not half over. Summer is only in its third week.

Your analytical skills are a bit lacking.

So who are you planning on voting for??

[Winterblues]

48. Americans have a very short attention span

There are just over three months left until the election and we will soon see an onslaught of campaign ads pretty much twenty four hours a day. I believe Democrats have some good stuff to brag about and plenty of amunition against Republicans. People will remember what they heard last month but not too many will remember what they heard five months ago..Democrats are just getting started...

[xxqqqzme]

51. Being so critical, I certainly hope

you have signed up w/ both campaigns to volunteer and hold house parties. I had a Boxer house party in March. Too early?

[Cleita]

58. Karl Rove, the prince of lies and a consultant on Fiorni's

campaign, has his fingerprints all over her campaign against Boxer especially the lies about her previous service as our Senator. We in California don't believe everything we are told and he and his Golden Girl are going to learn a hard lesson this November.

[truedelphi]

66. Fingers are crossed.

It will be satisfying to know that when we vote for Boxer, we vote against Carly and ROVE!

[Matariki]

65. "answering republican charges" would amount to letting crazy people control the conversation.

something the Democrats smartly and finally stopped doing.

[truedelphi]

67. In part, you can blame the media

She heads the Environment Committee in the Senate, but you'd never know of that fact or of her strong stance on the BP malfeisance in the Gulf by reading the newspapers or watching TV..

Why would the media bother to cover Boxer's deeds in the Senate. The media cannot possibly manage to cover both the fact that four Tea Baggers met in western Sacramento to discuss Palin, AND ALSO to cover Boxer's statements!

<sarcasm meant>

[Grinchie]

74. Exactly. If one actually looks at the record, Boxer is pretty cool

And the media blackout is as obvious as Pinnochio's nose, mainly because my intuition is that she bumps heads with the right wing DLC cabal infesting the Democratic party.

If one looks at Bill Clinton closely, one can see very tight control on Judicial wings and Media message, as well as giving away everything he could to the Corporations. While Al Gore was no saint, at leaset he was aware of the oncoming catastrophe of Global Warming, and was poised to act if he had one the election. The DLC sabotaged Gore simply to placate the Corporations.

Now, this administration, that wholeheartedly demanded that Obama's name be taken off of the DLC website during the campaign, is now magically infested with DLC cronies that are just as toxic as they were during the Clinton administration. Same tactics, same Corporate blow jobs, same selling out of America in order to capitalize everything that exists on the planet, including air, water, and the biosphere.

[druidity33]

70. the Summer "started" on June 21st...

it is now July 7th. I hate to quibble, but that's not really "half the summer"... unless you're a student (or teacher) and you're referring to your Summer break.

:shrug:

[Psephos]

73. Summer is popularly considered to last from Memorial Day to Labor Day.

Regardless of what the technical definition is.

Just sayin'...

[Grinchie]

71. Fiorina is a buffoon.

Just another member of the Corporatist Club that will crash and burn just like Sarah Palin.

And if people are so stupid as to gobble up the mush spoon fed to them regarding how wonderful Palin or Carly are, then go for it..

Boxer is a rock, and she has worked hard for Democratic values, even though she's being undermined by her own party as we speak,

[defendandprotect]

75. White House giving any support to Boxer . . . ?

And what about Obama and jobs creation?

The 2009 stimulus isn't enough -- not anywhere near enough!!

[skyounkin]

82. Well, to be fair-

It's not like failorina had a job to worry about for the past year- she just lived off her 22 million dollar reward for almost destroying a company. Unlike Boxer who is actually doing something with her days.

[flamingdem]

3. Fiorina is truly a disaster, go Barbara! nt

[Hulk]

4. fiorina's record speaks for itself...

This snooty bitch is pathetic..and if Californian's can't see that, they deserve her retched style of conquer and destroy. She did it for HP, and she'll do it to the rest of the country, given the chance.

I'm not a HUGE B. Boxer fan, but ANYTHING is better than fiorina...and it isn't hard to see that. I have such little faith in the voters these days. Jesus...they send bachmann to Washington, mcChin to Washington, mcAncient to Washington, dimWitt to Washington....they are incapable of protecting themselves from their worst enemy.

We are one sick, f*cked up nation. I think we are going to deserve our fate. Rome must have been sad to watch go down the toilet as well, eh?

[Tempest]

8. Fiorina can't win

The two largest voting blocks, the bay area and L.A. won't be voting for her. Without those two areas, no one can win in this state.

[SemperEadem]

18. for reals

[LawnKorn]

15. Fiorina has already seen the highest poll numbers she is going to see

It is all down hill now for the Republican. Senator Boxer will clean her clock in November and win going away. The minority Republicans and TeaBaggers will be left in stunned amazement as to how they didn't win by shouting louder than everyone else.

[cowman]

20. Yeah and this is

what everyone said about Scott Brown and look what happened and if I were Barbara Boxer I wouldn't be talking about jobs right now considering the lack of them

[BonnieJW]

27. But you have to admit

that Brown's opponent, Coakley, didn't really campaign at all. She thought she would just print out brochures and win.

[Tempest]

33. Not only was she the worst candidate ever

She went around the state insulting voters.

[Tempest]

32. No comparison can be made with the Brown win

Coakley was a piss poor candidate who went around the state insulting the voters.

You can't insult Red Sox fans days before the election and expect to win the way Coakley did.

[valerief]

39. I'm a Mass. voter and I could care less about the Red Sox. Of course, I wanted Capuano. nt

[valerief]

38. Scott Brown, Massachusetts' own Joe the Plumber. Just as useless to America. nt

[skyounkin]

83. I would be talking about jobs every damn day.

And scott brown had a pathetic opponent who baiscally let him win.

Boxer on the other hand is a three term encumbent with not so bad numbers.

[Control-Z]

68. Wow. I've never heard anyone (progressive or democrat)

say they're not a fan of Boxer. She is one of the most respected and well liked senators in the country. And in California, she is loved. Now Feinstein, she's another story.

[Wilms]

5. Just have to post a link to Fiorno's "Demon Sheep" primary campaign ad.

FCINO: Fiscal Conservative In Name Only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo7HiQRM7BA

:rofl:

[wryter2000]

47. She did give us that ad

Best thing she's ever done for the people of California. :rofl:

[Grinchie]

76. Thanks for posting that Corporate Propaganda..

Notable quote "Political Outsider"

and

"Might there be someone better than Tom Campbell?"

Meanwhile, they hide her face, like the camera doesn't have permission to film the uber stud CEO. The funny thing is that this ad could be recycled for Sarah Palin with little effort.

[David__77]

6. Fiorina is running as a straight-up right-winger.

And she will be defeated by close to double-digits. She will actually help drag down her cousin Megan Whitman.

[fujiyama]

9. I just can't figure out who Fiorina's base is

I mean, she can't get tech CEOs and other wealthy silicon valley types behind her, because everyone knows what a shitty job she did at HP. She was a complete disaster, and she didn't do any better as McCain's co-chair or whatever meaningless role she had on his campaign. I've heard Whitman has had more success raising money in SV, and while I know I wouldn't vote for her as governor, she wasn't nearly as terrible in managing eBay (I'm not as familiar with her time at eBay and wouldn't mind being corrected here).

Other than Teabaggers, Fiorina has no one, and I don't think CA has enough for her to carry the state. Plus, CA may vote repukes for governor, but it's been a long time since a republican won a federal statewide office in that state.

[SharonAnn]

50. Her base is those who are anti-Democrat or anti-Liberal. That's all.

Those who would vote against any Democrat or any Liberal are Fiorina's base.

It's not a very big base.

She doesn't have anything to appeal to Independents or even moderate Republicans.

[jmowreader]

85. There's a minor problem with your "Whitman wasn't as bad at managing eBay" thought

Bush wasn't nearly as terrible in managing America as Carly was at managing HP. When Carly took the reins of that company, it made two basic things: computers that are exactly identical with everyone else's offerings and are cheap enough to sell to Big Box Mart, and electronic test and measurement equipment that is so good people pay a premium to get it. So let me ask you something: if you were going to get rid of one of those lines, would you keep the cheap shit people buy because there's a huge pile of them in the middle of the aisle, or the high-end stuff people buy because it does what it does better than anyone else's?

[Hekate]

10. Barbara Boxer stopped off in Santa Barbara for a fundraiser/Dem rally at a private home. She's great

She has spent the past two days looping around the state -- and folks, it's a very big state -- so she was a bit hoarse but still game.

The home in question is in Hope Ranch, a very tony district. We met outdoors under some magnificent old California live oaks -- actually never went inside as everything we needed was outside. A winery donated the wine. A catering company donated the high quality nibbles. In fact everything was donated, so that all the funds raised will go straight into the local Democratic coffers. There were a lot of us--there was valet parking. Oh all right, spoil me. :-)

I went because despite the location it was only a $25 donation per person, which is very much in my league, and it's an opportunity to chat with local Dem candidates and office holders from Congresswoman Lois Capps on down. We were all urged to get busy walking, talking, phoning, and donating.

Lois introduced the Senator and said what an excellent partner she makes in the Senate, and gave many examples. The Senator gave what is probably going to be her basic stump speech, with the theme "Jobs for California," in which she gives highlights of her record, plans for jobs for a green future, lambastes the practice of sending jobs overseas -- and then sketches out Carly Fiorina's miserable record with Hewlett Packard, which I trust you all already know.

If you are a Californian, or just curious, go to Boxer's website for the "Top 100" of the thousands of bills she has worked on, amended, gotten passed in her many terms. I've always thought she's doing a good job -- she really needs to be sent back to the Senate.

Hekate

[scribble]

12. I am appalled

Boxer needs to CAMPAIGN, not stand in private living rooms. Private appearances are not campaign-swinging, it is not anything.

Why isn't she on TV? Why isn't she giving interviews on sympathetic radio shows? why isn't she making news that gets her local coverage? Why isn't she making some goddam PROPOSALS that we all want to hear her make? Why isn't she answering the specious charges we hear Republicans make every day? This is a perfect time for her.

Standing at the front door of somebody's living room and collecting lunch money is NOT campaigning for one of the most important jobs in the State. Barbara is going to lose to Carly unless she rolls up her sleeves and gets to fucking WORK.

sc

[Hekate]

13. Hmmm. Go back and read my post ALL the way through. This was outdoors, well over 100 there...

... TV cameras and print reporters were there, she gave interviews afterwards.

Her speech was meaty in terms of laying out the differences between her record and Fiorina's, as well as highlighting the many accomplishments she has in benefitting Californians. Voters need to know that stuff, and they need to be reminded.

She laid out many proposals, including things that are already in the works, like money coming to the state for setting up green energy jobs and a company newly established in Riverside County already manufacturing and delivering fuel efficient city buses to one of our coastal cities. That kind of information is, as I said she said, at her campaign website if you want to read more than my summary.

My post, dear Appalled, was not a position paper but a note (heavy on local Dem politics) about Senator Boxer's campaign swing that included her stopping in my area. She was in San Diego before she flew out to Santa Barbara, and from here she flew on to Monterey. I don't know if you live here, but as I said in my post, it's a very big state, and she is covering a lot of territory.

People like me, who think $25 is a nice donation, are often overlooked when big shots come to Santa Barbara; sometimes they give a speech outdoors at the college before attending a private function, but a lot of times they head straight for where the big money is: Montecito and Hope Ranch, where they can get a $1000 a head.

THIS rally was a shout-out to the people who are going to be making the phone calls and walking the precincts. At the same time -- the SAME TIME -- it was held inside one of those pockets of big money, organized and sponsored by well-off Democrats (thank you Ron and Jill, you are the best), and they invited their friends and neighbors, who will donate generously.

Mission accomplished, afaic.

Feel any better?

Hekate

[pinboy3niner]

24. Thanks for your report and this elaboration

I appreciate hearing what Sen. Boxer is doing. You make a great point, too, about her reaching out both to big donors and to current and prospective campaign volunteers. I wonder if some have forgotten that she also recently had the President out here campaigning for her.

I expect to get out there to volunteer for both Boxer and Brown (although I'm in one of the state's red enclaves :( ). And the good news being reported today is that Brown and Whitman are virtually tied, despite the fortune she's spending on her campaign.

[SemperEadem]

19. Boxer is doing it the old fashioned way--pressing the flesh

because that is where you face your constituents. A television camera doesn't talk back.

Your girl, carly, is the one who must be kept from the unwashed masses she so desperately wants to control. How many times has she gone into Santa Ana? City of Industry? Pacoima? Chino? Diamond Bar? Orange and San Diego county aren't the only places Californian constituents live.

The tactics you espouse are actually right wing tactics--they are the ones who cannot tolerate being around anything unless they've been pre-approved or have gone through a security check point.

Boxer's record speaks for itself and it's available to anyone to read... the only thing keeping anyone from knowing what she stands on is the will, inclination and determination to do research.

It's really, really sad when one needs a television camera, studio, post-production facility to filter the message they want to be told. Not a cute look.

[Bluenorthwest]

28. Thanks for the laugh!

I picture Carly in Pacoima, or Santa Ana, my first home, and the image is hilarious. Carly Goes To Compton. When does that happen?

[Grinchie]

78. City of Industry...

It's been a long time since I thought of that place....

[treestar]

30. Did you apply for campaign manager and get turned down?

:wtf:

[Tempest]

36. I doubt he would support her anyway

My bullshit meter peaks every time I read one of his posts.

[Grinchie]

79. Your meter is certified functional by concurrent readings on my meter N/T

[lunatica]

96. Your bullshit meter is reliable

So is mine and mine agrees that this person isn't very smart with smart people. His/her arguments would work well with Republicans against Boxer, but no one who knows Boxer's record will ever vote against her. She doesn't need to make a spectacle. All she needs to do is show her record. It stands as testament to who she is.

[Grinchie]

77. It's shocking to not blow everything prematurely?

Actually, I view that as a position of strength.

You sound like a person that would hire a bulldozer to clear a lot, only to find out that it's not your property after the house is built.

Why Why!! Oh the mock OUTRAGE!

Lunch money.. heh -- You do it...

[Liberty Belle]

14. I met her today -- what a treasure she is!

I've always admired her but after reading her handouts with the list of accomplishments she's had including many specific to our city, I was struck by the contrast between her competence, caring and achievements in Congress vs. Fiorina's record of....absolutely nothing, unless you count outsourcing jobs and getting fired by your own company as resume builders.

Boxer also got in a dig at catty Carly, noting that "It's not about who has the best hair style."

[LawnKorn]

16. K&R

[pattmarty]

21. It's a good thing Feinstein is not up for re-election this year..............

...........if it were her instead of Boxer the Dems might well lose. Big difference between the two female Calif Senators, big difference.

[Grinchie]

80. Feinstein is a creepy dinosaur that needs to go.

Talk about a MIC hack..

[pattmarty]

103. Yep. She could be the "poster child" for the Dems since the 80's..........

.........up to the present. If she's a "liberal", I'm fucking Napoleon.

[border_town]

22. Well she is still employed.

Do you guys want her to move out to Washington DC and be a full time campaigner? She needs to get out and campaign but she also needs to do her current job.

[KillCapitalism]

23. Fiorina must be beaten.

If it were up to her, America would have a 100% unemployment rate and it wouldn't bother her one bit.

[valerief]

40. To a pulp. She's horrible for America. nt

[Overseas]

29. K&R! //nt

[mod mom]

42. I'm always thankful that Sen Boxer showed the courage to contest the seating of Ohio in '04!

[xxqqqzme]

55. Yes, she did. I was in DC the day that happened.

As part of a California delegation, we were cleared with security and met her in her office. We all thanked her for being that lone Senate vote to support the congress person from Ohio who rose to object to the vote count.

[w4rma]

44. Sen. Boxer is one of the very best people/Senators/Congressfolks in Washington D.C.

It doesn't get much better than her.

[Hubert Flottz]

46. I agree...

She stood up to W better than most.

[glitch]

99. +infinity. If they were all as half as great as she is I wouldn't be so worried. nt

[earcandle]

45. Go Barbara Boxer!

[Uncle Joe]

49. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, bemildred.

[Joanne98]

53. GO BARBARA!

[Kajsa]

54. Carly Fiorina has nothing to offer

except a history of killing jobs, and the
tiresome,repeated ad nauseam RW
talking points,

"big government"
"business busting taxes"
( she should know about running corporations into the ground)
:puke:

She has NOTHING new to say or offer.
Our state is in dire straights.
We need solutions- not BS, RW mantras.

[PuppyBismark]

56. Not Single HP Employee Will Vote for Carly

She was so hated by everyone. Nothing but a rock star. When she came into town for a customer visit, the office got a multi-page document tell the staff how to treat her, what to have for her to eat/drink, and not to talk to her unless spoken to. She bought two personal corporate jets, while laying off 1,000's of employees.

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[Cleita]

59. Maybe some eccentrics in the Mojave desert and

rancher types in the Central Valley might, but I don't think the majority of Californians are fooled by her.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

57. Boxer will come out on top.

I've been getting e-mail fundraiser communications for MONTHS from her campaign. She reminds me of Alan Grayson - hard at work back in D.C. and quietly and effectively raising cash online.

[SoapBox]

60. Carly...the Jobs Destroyer and Empty Suit.

...Go Barbara Go!

Fakeorina would, as a standard RushTurdlican, work to destroy jobs in this country.

[davidwparker]

61. Yea, just remind everyone in CA about her being an

outsourcing queen. I'm sure that will just thrill everyone in Silicon Valley -- or who used to work there.

[and-justice-for-all]

62. Fiorina is another corporate monster looking to getting a senate on the hill

fuck that, there is enough corporate monsters on the hill as it is. People like Fiorina will just continue the deregulation religion that pukes practice.

[Old Vet]

64. Ive come to realize how fucking stupid most voters..........

Are when it comes to damn near any issue. I will never forget how the English telegraph newspaper Headline read when bush was re-elected..... How can so many americans be so stupid....This Florina chick sent THOUSANDS of jobs overseas, She will be on her knees with the oil companies also, Watch.

[Deep13]

63. Hurricane Boxer has reached CA. nt

[Grinchie]

69. Just the name Carly Fiorina brings groans from many who work at HP

I had the misfortune to consult at HP for a while when "Carly" was there. It was a very depressing place to work.

Sure, there were enclaves of happy old timers scattered about, working tirelessly because they still believed in being taken care of by HP, but the other areas were like a strip mine, cold, sterile, robotic, and seething with anger.

I had never seen such a toxic Corporate Environment before, and the code written by their Outsourced projects was even more toxic.

Nothing like sending projects to India, then have it come back loaded with simple spelling errors that were interlaced through dozens of modules, some of which had no source code, because the Version Control System had been destroyed by viruses!

They insisted that I learn to Misspell keywords for functions, arguments, and module names. To add insult to injury, some of the words were spelled correctly and interchanged! It was the Tower of Babel of ridiculous code. They also were running a version of a web server that was outdated by 5 versions! Loaded with security holes and bugs, and there Servers were all infected with the W32.I.Love.You virus.. Spread easily through the widespread use of Win NT Administrative shares.

The money was awesome, I believe it was $200 per hour, but I quit the contract within a week because it would have forced me to sell my ethics and soul for a paycheck, as well as surround myself with unethical, mean, angry engineers that were basically milking the cash cow until it died.

It was a disturbing, yet highly memorable experience for me. It taught me that most of the glitz, glamor and political intrigue on display in the Corporate world is all for show, like a Hollywood movie to distract people from the uselessness of their day to day drudgery, stuck inside a sick building, unhappy with the results of their labors. It also taught me that it's OK to do what is right, even if it seems to be economically unwise on the surface. That is the trap of a paycheck, and too many people sell their souls and just "Buck Up" and take the abuse.

I better job came the next week, for half the pay, but full of vibrant talented people who were a joy to work with, unlike the forced death march at HP.

[YvonneCa]

81. I just LOVE Senator Boxer...

...and appreciate all the work she has been doing for our country and California. I hope Democrats don't take her for granted...we need to turn out in HUGE NUMBERS in November.

[RBInMaine]

84. Boxer is a good name for her. We can beat the GOBP by punching them hard and bloodying their eyes.

[idrahaje]

90. HP was good, now HP is a disposable brand.

All I know is Carly turned HP that made some pretty good stuff into stuff that is not made to last more than 2 years...

Or as my son said... his old IT teacher called the VP up and was specifically told the desktops were made to be disposable after 2 years. That nobody keeps computers more than 2 years.

[inna]

92. It horrifies the heck out of me that...

we might end up with Fiorina as a US Senator and Whitman as CA Governor. :scared: I'd say, it's a 50-50% chance right now. x(

[Scurrilous]

94. K & R

:thumbsup:

[ProudDad]

100. It's indicative of the sorry state of the republican party

that they would nominate this waste of skin...

Remember, the final straw that precipitated her firing from HP was SPYING ON BOARD OF DIRECTOR MEMBERS...

This was after a series of decisions that cost HP BILLIONS...

Way to go, pukes!

[AngryAmish]

105. Crush her, Boxer

Jail her and her ugly family. We demand to see Fiorina in chains.