Ga. Sen. Zell Miller blasts Kerry at 'Democrats for Bush' rally

[Ruby Romaine]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Bush-Cheney campaign Wednesday unleashed its most famous Democratic booster, Georgia Sen. Zell Miller, to make the case that presidential candidate John Kerry advocates policies inconsistent with some of history's most popular Democratic presidents.

Miller, a Georgian who is the lone Democratic senator to back publicly President Bush's re-election bid, criticized Kerry in a speech announcing his leadership of a national "Democrats for Bush" effort. He was joined by a handful of lesser-known Democrats, but the campaign said it would release a more comprehensive list in the coming weeks.



http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?a0672_BC_Bush-Democrats&&news&election2004

What a jerk, why doesn't he change his party affiliation?

[prodigal_green]

1. He's a dick

who cares?

[xchrom]

19. zell isn't anything as enjoyable as that.

[saigon68]

42. Zell forgot his sheet and hood

Like an old time southern politician. I'd like to know how many Blacks except colon and condominium would vote for him.

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[Teaser]

102. Miller is more than a little racist

but one can see that for one's self.

[Frodo]

103. Really?

There are a whole lot of African Americans in Georgia who would be surprised to hear it... considering the solid support they gave him for many years. He even won a fair percentage of African Americans in a Democratic primary race against a capable black opponent (Andrew Young was a Congressman AND ambassador to the U.N. and well known in the civil rights movement - and Miller STILL won a sizable portion of the "black vote").

No, he's not racist... just a turncoat.

[QC]

106. Got any evidence for that?

Zell Miller has many failings, Lord knows, but racism does not seem to be one of them.

In case you have forgotten it, or never knew it to start with, he made an all out effort to remove the confederate flag from Georgia's state flag. He lost after a hard fight, and it was a very unpopular move that nearly ended his career.

But hey, who needs facts when one can just see things for one's self, right?

[mikey_1962]

108. If you want sheets and a hood Robert C. Byrd was in the KKK

Zell Miller is not a racist..

[Turbo]

112. Wasn't it Governor /...

Wasn't it Gov. Fritz Hollings (D) of South Carolina who put the Confederate Flag on the capital building of that state some years back?

Such was the attitude of many Democrats in the South going way back to the Civil War. Judging a southern Democrat from a northern Democrat perspective will only create more infighting in our party.

[indepat]

115. The litany of available "F" words not adequate to describe Zell

[President Jesus]

97. It's official...Zell gave $2000 to Bush in Jan (details)

check out this transformation:

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/zellmiller.php

It's looking like Kerry/McCain vs Bush/Miller in the Fall!

[Kathy in Cambridge]

2. Can we trade Miller for Chaffee or Snowe?

He is a true embarassment...

[AGiordino]

70. Huzzah and Here, Here

n/t

[QC]

111. I don't understand all the praise of Chaffee and Snowe.

They are good enough people, I suppose, certainly when compared to say, Jesse Helms, but by remaining in the Republican caucus and thus keeping the Senate in the hands of people like Frist and Santorum, they are as much a part of the problem as George W. Bush himself.

I would respect them a lot more if they would realize that the reasonable, responsible GOP that they grew up in died twenty years ago. By sticking around, they are just enabling Bush and his crew.

[mac56]

3. Zig-Zag Zell is such an embarrassment.

Oh, the deal he must have made with Satan.

Add on edit: I wish Jimmy Carter would sit him down and square him away.

[WI_DEM]

4. Democrats for Bush?

that is a lie. Zell Miller is not a Democrat.

[scarface2004]

13. same as 'jews for hitler!!'

a hole!

[Catfight]

16. Gays for Musgrave!

phooey!

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

27. Iraqis for Chalabi

[mobuto]

28. Venezuelans for Chavez

cough

[mac56]

41. "Retarded Death Row Inmates for Bush"

A classic from Jon Stewart.

[Mike Daniels]

43. Well that can apply for Clinton as well

Given that at least one mentally deficient criminal met his death due to Clinton's eagerness to appear tough on crime.

[Chicago Democrat]

44. Palestinians For Sharon!

[Aquarian_Conspirator]

54. Venezuelans for Corporate Thugs

cough cough

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

59. that was nice

:)

[0007]

80. thumbs up

:thumbsup:

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

62. Mobuto - you upset I'm pro-Chavez?

I have other interests you know. Don't let the smooth taste fool you.

[TankLV]

65. "Venezuelans against Chavez"

I guess democracy is over-rated anyway, being that 70-90% SUPPORT Chavez.

[Freddie Stubbs]

71. 70-90%? That's a pretty big margin of error

I would be interested in seeing the methodology of that poll.

[napsi]

75. 70- 90% OF WHO?

Ignorant, communist pukes? Chavez is putting Venezuela further into poverty........

[amber dog democrat]

79. or Aztecs for Cortez

or snails for salt. No way in hell Zell could EVER be a Democrat. I hope this catches up with him. Traitor.

[InnerCityBlues]

88. Aztecs for Cortez

LOL

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

114. Bush for Pretzels

[SaveElmer]

5. Democrats fo Bush

Probably will be the smallest club ever!

[Timefortruth]

18. Chickens for Col. Sanders.

That one is stolen.

[Catfight]

26. Jews for Jesus!

[Chicago Democrat]

45. Angels for Satan!

[myomy]

50. Preparation H for Assholes.

.

[kysrsoze]

46. I'm one Democrat who loves bush!

I can't stand it when the ladies shave it all off or make it into a little landing strip.

[Ruby Romaine]

60. Did you watch Whoopi last night?

She made a similar joke when hotel guests were arriving to attend either a Bush fundraiser or a lesbian wedding.

[kysrsoze]

63. Naw, thought of it all my little self

Just remembered the old jokes about Dick and Bush in 2000.

[prodigal_green]

109. Democrat for Bush

Why bother with the plural, as he must be the only one.

[bif]

6. Fuck Zell. Turncoat.

Asshole!

[gulfcoastliberal]

Fuck You, Zell

Dems should just get it over with and expell this asshole from our party. Traitorous scum.

[louis-t]

7. I wanna see the Repubs for Kerry list!

I'm sure it's a lot bigger.

[phillybri]

12. McCain, Hagel, Chaffee, Snowe, Collins...

Zell's a jackass...

[BlueEyedSon]

8. "Democrats for Bush"????

What was the attendance, 3 people?

[KamaAina]

9. Remember when C-SPAN would pan to the empty seats?

while the Repukes were droning on and on talking to no one but the cameras?

Betcha that's what the "Democrats* for Bush*" rally looks like.

Give it up, Zell -- even if Bush* does dump Cheney from the ticket, he ain't picking you, so there!

[Frodo]

52. I think you're likely to be wrong on that one.

Zell will probably get a cabinet position out of this.

[TankLV]

66. It'll be the shortest appointment considering bunkerboy is outta OUR White

House in just about 10 months!

[Frodo]

69. Good point.

It assumes that Zell actually delivers.

[bluestateguy]

10. Asshole

Not a real Democrat, hasn't been one in over 5 years, and should now be publicly bounced out of the party. I can think of 50 Republicans I prefer to that pile os shit. At least Phil Gramm, Jim Jeffords, Ben Nighthorse Campbell and Virgil Goode had the integrity to change parties and accept the consequences for doing so. Bush and Rove want him to keep the little (D) next to his name so they can claim that he is a "bipartisan" president. George Wallace was a better Democrat that this jerk.

[scarface2004]

11. he fell asleep...

near a pod!!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

14. Zell (Dick Russell's Love Child) Miller

...a wilted Mint Julep he is!

:puke:

Zell Miller belongs at a Klan rally!

[JohannMost]

15. LOL That is so right.

Richard Russell Redux

[phillybri]

17. In 2001, he was praising Kerry...

At the Georgia Democratic Party’s Jefferson-Jackson Day dinner in 2001, he introduced Kerry as “one of this nation’s authentic heroes, one of this party’s best-known and greatest leaders — and a good friend.”

In remarks reported in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Miller continued, “In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington.” Miller said Kerry “fought for balanced budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so.”

http://downstown.blogspot.com/2004_03_21_downstown_archive.html#108007408261712277

[pollock]

20. Hey Ruby!

Do you go to the mlive news forum? you should--everyone here can join in the Michigan news talk forum.(not trying to take anything away from here, it's a very small forum)

[Ruby Romaine]

30. thanks for the tip, pollock.

The repukes would have to do some serious cheating for * to win Michigan!

[pollock]

31. Especially with Granholm as governor.

Won't allow state of Michigan to do business with any company doing "outsourcing" of jobs.

[cosmicdot]

21. he may want to review the Clarke hearing a few times

I recall those who thought
Nixon was the one
and embraced him
and, then faded away

some people never learn from history

[Blue_Roses]

22. why the fuck does Zell Miller continue to

call himself a Democrat? Fucking old creep. He's only fooling himself. Damn he makes me mad:mad:

GO THE FUCK AWAY YOU OLD HASBEEN

[Just Me]

23. I view Zell-ous as simply a covert agent of the enemy *eom*

[mobuto]

24. Democrats for Bush

Established 2004.

President: Zell Miller
Chairman: Zell Miller
Secretary: Zell Miller
Treasurer: Zell Miller


Membership: 1

[GOPBasher]

33. LOL

[Just Me]

38. Hee, hee, hee,....yeah,...pretty freakin' obvious, huh!!! *eom*

[Frodo]

55. Ummm. No.

With a "Mass Liberal" at the top of the ticket?

Unless Kerry picks the right VP for the ticket, there will be LOTS of "Democrats for Bush" in November.

Of course, most will be in states we weren't going to win anyway.

[Wabbajack]

58. Sadly that's not true

they are an active organization and were in 2000 as well.

[CBHagman]

25. How dare he invoke JFK and Truman

It shows what a fat lot Miller knows about either of them!

[xxqqqzme]

29. this is news?????

n/t

[Ruby Romaine]

32. It's pretty pathetic news if Zell is *'s biggest "Democratic" booster!

It will be interesting to see the list the repukes say they will produce.

[GOPBasher]

34. Can't we just get rid of him?

Seriously. I don't get this. He still insists on calling himself a Democrat.

[Frodo]

56. No. Not until closer to the election at least.

And at that point, the "sour grapes" effect will probably make it more trouble then it's worth.

If we dump him now there will be too many Democratic senators bumped from committees the NEED to be on to get re-elected.

[Manix]

35. Thankfully, the old fool is retiring. This is the only way he gets any

notice as he fades away.

[gasperc]

36. just re-register

fuckers

[CO Liberal]

37. He Didn't Feel That Way Three Years Ago

Here's a speech he gave on March 1, 2001, praising Kerry:

http://miller.senate.gov/speeches/030101jjdinner.htm

[hyphenate]

39. I think good ole boy Zell

Needs a shakeup to be reminded he's a Democrat and not a Republican. At least most of us know he's a DINO--in more ways than one, but how much of that does the real world understand?

Did anyone else watch "Mr. Sterling" when it was on? A really great quote came out of that show that constantly reminds me of Miller. When Sterling's political party is announced as "Independent," the people who helped put him on the ballot were embarassed because they had assumed he was like his father and was a Democrat. When they found out differently, they were rather upset. However, Sterling made a brilliant comment, that unfortunately I have to paraphrase since I can't remember the actual quote. He said he was an independent, because the names of the parties weren't real anymore. He said that what party is he supposed to affiliate himself to, when a "Northern Republican is more liberal than a Southern Democrat." It makes sense, though, and perhaps the intent was to have people think of good old Zell when it was mentioned. Of course this also applies to a few other Southern Democrats as well, but Zell is our poster boy for a DINO.

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[hyphenate]

99. Courage?

To be a liar even to himself about what party he is really affiliated with? No f**king way will I admire him for being a traitor. If he wants to support the chimp-in-chief, I suggest he become a republican, because NO Democrat wants to claim he's one of "us." If you support him, it's because you're a Repub yourself. And Repubs love to point out over and over and over again about Robert Byrd's faults--at least Byrd has had enough conscience to denounce what he did as a young man--there is no such moral fiber in Zell Miller's body even worth mentioning.

[flakey_foont]

40. Wanker

[ramapo]

47. How about Republicans for Kerry?

Need a counter just for PR

[kysrsoze]

48. Well, there's already two - McCain and I forget who else

Give or take about 10 million people.

[The Night Owl]

49. What a Zell out.

Hey, Zell... I know the Democratic party is the big tent party, but our tent is not that big. Get out... You are stinking up the joint.

[skippysmom]

51. Democrats for Bush

What an oxymoron.

Zell Miller -- what a moron.

[MisterP]

53. history's most popular Democratic presidents

Who? Polk? Buchanan?

[SoCalDem]

57. Was he dressed like "the Colonel"...audience dressed as chickens?

Zell<----yawn !

[Bush Pouts]

61. Just jump ship Dick

and be done with it.

[drscm]

64. And the infamous "Chickens for Perdue." eom

eom

[yardwork]

67. All I have to say is I'm glad my state isn't being blamed anymore

for having the worst senator. Jesse Helms retired a couple of years ago.

[54anickel]

68. That headline is misleading, a RALLY? Zell and a handful=rally? n/t

[jmowreader]

110. Lest we forget...

The RW calls any gathering of three freepers a rally.

[BabsSong]

72. WAKE UP--Kerry, don't spend a dime nor an appearance down South

Really....for god's sake at most me might sway a few thousand people but it won't put a dent into these southern assholes and thus, swing an entire state. Put it all into those midwestern states. The South is a losing proposition not worthy of 10 cents from the warchest. And fucking Zell Miller wouldn't say what he says if he knew differently. That bastard is using the blacks and poor who are voting for Dems in Georgia to get into office and then the slime turns against these people. He knows God couldn't win on the Democratic ticket down there. Now all we have to do is wise up and not spend a dime on these assholes. And if the day comes that Dems ever take over the whole government, I would suggest they start by cutting the damn fat pork that is kept slithering down the line to the South. Let them eat cake.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

73. John Kerry campaigning in Georgia makes as much sense as....

Shrub campaigning in Massechussetts.

I wouldn't piss one dime in the south!

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[yardwork]

74. Ahem. I live in the south and I am not an asshole.

Please don't play into stereotypes that the Republicans love to use against liberals.

I'm down here trying to convince my neighbors that people from Massachusetts don't have two heads. Insults directed at the south don't help my cause!

Thank you.

[west hollywood dem]

76. Zell is out of office as of November

Good-bye fucker, don't let the back door hit you, where the good lord split you, on the way out.

Zell Miller should've switched parties three years ago.

Check out his voting record.

>http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=CNIP0616

Hope the above link in not in violation of this thread but I am new to DU.

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[Frodo]

100. He'll be out of office as of January.

And if he HAD switched parties when he started voting with the republicans we never would have HAD control of the Senate or a 50-50 split.

[hyphenate]

84. Yardwork,

I sympathize. While I'm from Massachusetts, we're always hearing the same kind of generic and general insults about being "Mass. liberals." It doesn't help anyone's cause to be made part of an all-encompassing slur. Many of my online friends on other boards are all sworn enemies of the reich-wing and are from the South: North Carolina, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky, West Virginia and Tennessee. Broad insults are often an emotional response to a frustrating problem, and while the real thought behind most people's responses is hardly as rabid, it's something that we need to try to keep in check. We won't always succeed, and we might have to apologize afterward, but remember we're only human, and manage to insert feet into mouth on a regular basis. :)

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[GaryL]

81. Worry not at all my friend.

Kerry won't be anywhere near the south other than Florida. I've been here in Texas for years and I heartily agree with you. This is the dumbest bunch of pickup jockeys I've ever seen. And how they bitch about spending money on education. I had one local yokel try and explain to me how spending more on public education doesn't necessarily improve it and I pointed out to him that only a product of said public education, like himself, would believe spending LESS would improve it. And believe me, I hear it all the time.

[ScotTissue]

77. REPENT!!

After all, ol' Zell is probably just karma for John McCain being such a laudable Republican.

[sweetladybug]

78. Zell Miller isn't a Democrat He just ran as one so that it looks

bad on Democrats when he voted for Republican policies and in elections. We should turn shit around on the Republicans and have "Republicans for Kerry" The Republicans in charge of our country are nothing for than manipulating,lying, phoney con men. MAY THEY ALL ROT IN HELL!!!!!!!!!
ELECT KERRY 2004!!!!

[flaminbats]

83. exactly!

So why put a Repug in charge of DINOs for Bush? My guess..this is an unpaid position granted too little backstabbing authority. :spank:

[Frodo]

101. Sorry, no.

I'm not sure how much his politics have changed over the years, but he was the most popular Democrat in Georgia for quite a while.

[leesa]

82. What a fool Zell Miller is to end his career in cahoots with a nest of

traitors. Whatever good he may have done has been obliterated, and this is how he will be remembered.

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[flaminbats]

92. absolutely heartbreaking....

but try a more commonly experienced scenario. We have a child who ends up on life-support in the hospital. The bills mount up, but these parents don't have the luxury of being personal friends with the President. Soon the insurance policy is dropped, and the family must now accumulate millions of dollars in debt just to keep their own flesh and blood alive.

The child will not recover, but he will live on braindead...and fed for years by tubes. His parents, now in debt, are on welfare and Medicaid. But money from these underfunded programs do not cover the backbreaking cost of this treatment, driving them even further into debt. They know their child is not happy, but that ending this nonstop pain for the child is a crime in America. And with Bush in power, healthcare shall never become a right for anyone.

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[flaminbats]

96. That's how I feel about Republicans!!!

All we ever get from them is the terrorists are going to get you, bin Laden wants Kerry as President, and we can't balance the budget or prevent future terrorist attacks!

Talk about being a loser...and the Repugs are still in power! At least the Democrats would do something to stop workers from going into debt because of healthcare expenses, at least we seek to help people before they end up in a ditch, at least Democrats have a plan to balance the budget, at least Democrats would fund national security...not borrow for it, and at least Democrats want us to solve our problems together rather than suffer individually..

[Thunder Road]

98. Hey Derbigny6....

that's a very heartwarming story, seriously...and did you also read the email about the time George W. used his superhuman powers and flew really really fast and reversed the rotation of the Earth to prevent 9-11 from happening too? Then he went back even further and actually made smart business deals by himself using his brains and work ethics instead of using his daddy's contacts to get a whole bunch of sweetheart deals. Then he went back more and actually finished his National Guard service to his country instead of slithering out early. Then he went back even farther and instead of waiting until he was 47, he gave up drinking like a lush at age 22 like most normal people do after college. Then he went back more and used a rubber so he didn't get the 15-year old pregnant so she didn't need an abortion...etc etc..what a guy! Thank goodness we have you to point out the differences between the two major parties. See ya.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

93. Bollocks. Check Snopes.

Here is the funeral home manager's statement:

The email that has been forwarded to a number of people and has unfortunately become the talk of everyone in Gatesville. The local media is calling us, along with many citizens in our community.

As with every family that we serve, all financial arrangements and conditions are held in strict confidence. However, with the overwhelming amount of conversation and questions in regard to this tragedy, the privacy of the Kettler family has been violated. I spoke with Shawn this morning and he asked me to try and put a stop to these rumors.

Since the day Gatesville Funeral Home opened and a family has experienced the death of a child, we have not burdened the family with any charges from the funeral home. The family may incur charges that are not ours, such as a cemetery lot, obituary notices, flowers, etc. This has always been our policy and has been an understanding between the family and us.

The funeral expenses that were incurred to the Kettler family were paid for by a close family member and not President Bush. For the sake of the family's privacy, I hope these facts will straighten this matter.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/funeral.asp

It is true that some of Bush's Secret Service participated in the attempted rescue, but Bush himself had nothing to do with it.

[uhhuh]

95. This is right wing bullshit.

It is another of those fake letters that seek to portray that dogturd from crawford as a real person. HE IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT ON THE PLANET!!! No amount of these fake letters changes that.

Here, I'll write one too:

One day a Guy I know was walking down the road near Bush's place in Crawford. He wasn't bothering any body, just walking along the road.
All of a sudden, a Ford Bronco with blacked out windows peels onto the road from Bush's compound! My friend tries to get further off the road, but this big black car is coming right at him!
At the last second, the Bronco veers away, but the worst was yet to come.

The Bronco stops, and the back window slowly rolls down. There was a drunk President Bush, in a diaper, holding a shotgun out the window.

He shouts, " Run, so's I can make this more sportin'."

My friend stood frozen in fear.

"Didn't you hear me tell you to run, boy?" Bush raised the shotgun and said "I can give you a chance, or you can stand there when I shoot. I'm the president. I can get away with it."

Bush looked coldly at him. He knew that he was serious.
My friend tried to run across the street and to the side of the adjoining property. He sprinted and dodged along the road and was going across yards, but the Bronco seemed to always know where he was. About two miles from the start of this incident,as the Bronco followed, my friend had to leap to the side to narrowly avoid running over a man and his small boy. The car nearly crushed them, and as they jumped out of the way, the ground seemed to collapse from the weight to the giant vehicle. My friend looked back in horror as the small boy fell underground.
" I hope that man reports this." He thought, as he ran headlong into a small store, panting.

That George W Bush is the most evil man on the planet and will hunt you for sport if given the chance. I'm so glad that a sane man is running against him for President. Under Bush's leadership the world is likely to come to an end. Thank God for John Kerry.

( Unlike the writer of this bullshit letter in the post above, I will tell you that this is fiction, but you can believe it if you want to, since someone wrote it.)

[gasperc]

104. fucking, fuck fucker

can he take Bush's dick out of his mouth for 5 fucking minutes to change parties

[surfermaw]

105. Miller, is after something, or Bush has something on Miller

borned and living in Georgia till the 1950's and the daughter of an old paid political consultant, let me tell you, Zell Miller is after something or Bush has something on him and is twisting his arm.

[opihimoimoi]

107. He got them holes in his brain causimg poor reasoning/judgement.

he is pathetic and evil

[KamaAina]

113. It's official. He's a "Zell-out"!

You do realize this means the Repukes will have a mole inside our convention, 'cause Zell-out is a superdelegate. :puke:

Told ya we should've given him the boot when he endorsed Bush*!

[dax]

116. why can't he be expelled???

I have not been a Dem delegate for years so I don't know what rules there are but if trhere are no rules, there ought to be -this guy should be expelled-he never supports anything dem in recent years.