San Francisco (Supervisors) to Vote on Boycott of State of Arizona

[Newsjock]

Source: SF Weekly

Supervisor David Campos this morning confirmed that he will tomorrow introduce emergency legislation calling for a San Francisco boycott of Arizona in response to that state's controversial new immigration law.

"I feel the city and county of San Francisco has to take a stand against what's happened in Arizona," said Campos. "The law they've enacted is really an affront to the basic principles of the constitution."

... As for what a boycott of Arizona would entail, however, Campos didn't have many details just yet.

​"I think, from time to time, there must be conferences (in Arizona) that city employees attend," said Campos, himself a former undocumented immigrant from Guatemala, and a champion of San Francisco's "sanctuary city" policy. This, he believes, should cease immediately. "The city and county of San Francisco should have nothing to do with the state of Arizona."

Beyond conferences, when asked if his proposed boycott might extend, hypothetically, to a computer consultant based out of Phoenix, he said it would: "That probably would fall under what we have in mind."

Read more: http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/04/san_francisco_to_vote_on_boyco.php

[EFerrari]

1. Good. Go, David.

[Roland99]

2. To the greatest with the greatest response I've seen yet.

[JTFrog]

3. K&R

[anachro1]

4. San Franciscan here

We had just finished planning an extensive one month tour of Arizona; various B & B's across the state, a week's stay in Sedona, the Grand Canyon:

EVERYTHING HAS BEEN CANCELLED.

We will not visit this state until this law of racial discrimination is abolished. Meanwhile, I hope Arizona loses a shitload of tourist money.

[Bette Noir]

6. I've never spent a month in AZ, but I usually spend about a week there each year.

I canceled this year's trip, and emailed both the governor and the head of the state tourism board to tell them why.

If AZ really did succeed in getting all the Latinos to leave the state, their economy would collapse.

[pinto]

28. Good point about letting the Governor and State Tourism agency know of your decision,

and why you made it. While there may be a range of opinion on boycotts or what form they might take - I think it's important that AZ officials hear from people.

:hi:

[Dappleganger]

7. +10000 nt

[defendandprotect]

9. Quite a sacrfice for a very important cause -- !!

[ieoeja]

10. I wouldn't visit if for no other reason than I don't want to carry my birth certificate with me. nt

[EFerrari]

12. If you have a second, email the Arizona Chamber of Commerce

and let them know.

I may be going out there later in the summer if the plan for organized protests materialize.

[anachro1]

16. Thank you!

I just emailed the AZ chamber of Commerce, telling them I have cancelled the one month trip.

[EFerrari]

18. Thanks so much! It is a sacrifice.

Arizona has many beautiful places and amazing art. I've always enjoyed my visits there except for the goddam vampires, lol.

[NOLALady]

26. If protest busses leave from Louisiana,

I'll see you there. :hi:

[EFerrari]

30. Love it!

:hi:

[TheEuclideanOne]

21. You should call them up and let them know

It would be a shame for them to miss out on such important information. Call each business to let them know why you are cancelling.

[MountainMama]

29. AZ resident here

And please, yes, let them know you're not coming and why. This broke my heart. Between this and the birther bill and letting people carry guns concealed without any kind of training, I'm ready to pack my bags. Trouble is, it's going to take awhile to get the house ready and then who knows if we'll be able to sell it?

And none of them realizes how badly they're screwing the already-screwed economy, or if they do, they don't care. Can you believe it? :wtf:

[EFerrari]

31. I'm sorry you're being put through this, MM.

:(

[MountainMama]

77. Thank you....

I've been here going on seven years and I've never been crazy about it, but now I just want to get back East. And just think, Joe Arpaio may run for governor and these idiots will probably elect him!

[Cha]

47. It's really too bad..and I thank you for doing it.

I would do the same. I'm done with Arizona until the lawmakers who don't have their heads on straight are held accountable.

[happygoluckytoyou]

66. IN A RELATED STORY... TOURISM IN ARIZONA FALLS AS THERE IS NOBODY LEFT TO CHANGE THE LINENS!!!!

[happygoluckytoyou]

67. RELATED STORY AZ lettuce $5 a head, unemployment down, as 1000s white guys apply for field work jobs

oh come on.... like a bunch of entitled feeling white guys are going to sweat in the fields doing any actual work for minimum wages

[ArizonaLiberal]

5. Yes

Pressure!

[defendandprotect]

8. Sounds good to me -- I wouldn't want a phone call from Arizona!!

And I trust that many Arizona citizens are also against this nutty and racist legislation!!

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[still_one]

13. I wish the state of California would do the same thing, along with other states

Making racist legislation as mainstream is a slippery slope which needs to be stood up to loudly and clearly

[tomm2thumbs]

14. Here's hoping this law finally puts Arizona in the Democratic column, once and for all

if folks really start to register and show up to vote, this could end up flipping the state, which McCain was trying to fight back for a win during the Presidential election I believe. Nothing says 'get to the polls' quite like 'you don't matter' - and hopefully this will be a turning point in AZ.

[still_one]

32. unless of course the majority in Arizona are racist /nt

[LynneSin]

15. Only thing I have every wanted to see in Arizona was the Grand Canyon

and even that I'll skip!

I have no need ever to go to Arizona. Anyhow with my long 10-letter last name who knows, they may want my birth certificate just to enter the state.

It's disgusting that Arizona would result to such hatred!

[FailureToCommunicate]

24. You must see the Canyon! (Hike it if you are brave!) But it will be there awhile longer, so

you can stick to your principles till the (police) state comes around.

[LynneSin]

35. I would rather miss it than to give one dime to the state of Arizona

nuff said!

[onpatrol98]

58. I want to see the Grand Canyon, too.

[TwentyFive]

17. I have to drive through Arizona come July

I never thought I'd have to bring my birth certificate, but that apparently these fascists will need to see it. However, they can't stop me from getting gas, food and water at the New Mexico state line...make sure my tires are ok...set my radar detector...and get through that fascist hellhole to Cali ASAP.

[FailureToCommunicate]

27. I had to drive thru recently -with stuff from my mom's house- and police stopped me after

only ten miles from the state line. State cop said he didn't like the way I handled the cross winds on the big rental truck I was driving: he said I had "drifted several times onto the painted lane lines'!!
Mostly he wanted to make sure I wasn't hispanic and he very much wanted to look in the back of the truck. I held firm and he (only) gave me a ticket. He should have followed me further: he could have arrested me for littering (the torn up -biodegradable- ticket)!

[abqmufc]

45. If driving get gas on the rez - NO STATE TAX!

something to consider.

[anachro1]

19. I wonder what would happen

if an American citizen refused to show his or her papers?

[Ohio Metal]

20. You vould go to zee kamps!

German accents don't work to well on the web, but I had to try.

[abqmufc]

46. Nothing to whitey .....

having lived in AZ for 10 years (Tucson and Flagstaff) this law has no impact on a white person. I've never been questioned and to be honest in border stops a white person can often go right through without ever coming to a complete stop.

This is all about the white haired folks in Del Web communities playing "clean out our retirement State". The gated communities didn't work so now they'll try and kick everyone out. Next up will be (like the rule in Green Valley, AZ) nobody under the age of 65 can stay more than 2 weeks!

I say ban all Del Web communities, all gated communities, and all retirement communities. Green Valley, Sun City you need to disappear. Anthem Way you as well!
http://www.delwebb.com/retirement-communities/Arizona/default.aspx?ha=0

The sad thing is Del Web just opened it first gated retirement community in NM! Mark my words, NM will turn into AZ in the next 5 years.

[icee]

22. The handling of illegal immigration will decide the November

election. It will be more instrumental than HCR or even jobs. I remember when Bush tried to solve illegal immigration. It was like a war around here. Bumper sticks are again appearing on cars. It will be interesting to see what Oklahoma does now that Arizona made its move. I'm going to Flagstaff in a couple of weeks. I supposed I'll know more then.

[EFerrari]

34. There are probably fewer undocumented workers here right now

than there have been in a decade because there are no jobs.

[icee]

42. Yep. I agree with that. There's a hidden agenda in the Arizona

immigration stance. Personally, I think it will backfire on the Republicans UNLESS Arizona is joined by two or more states. There are some things going on in Arizona that even pro-immigration folks would frown on. I'm sure you've read about them, ie, the alleged purposely running into whitey's cars then running. I have a hunch the Supremes will overrule the AZ law. Then AZ will start getting nasty it may well take federal troops to quell the trouble. Bush knew what was about to happen, which is why he overturned Posse Comitatus. Things going to get real interesting. I trust you have your food and water stash somewhere safe?

[EFerrari]

43. That's ridiculous. The undocumented workers I know

are also the hardest working people I know, family people and they try to avoid any kind of trouble whatsoever. Whitey, my @ss. If I have an emergency kit, it's to rescue myself when the government fails again the next time we have a natural disaster.

[icee]

62. All the accounts I've heard, some from people I've known for

years could not be made up. Whatever...

[Titanothere]

68. of course there's a reason for this law, like the example you just stated

To assume that Arizona would go to these lengths just because they're a bunch of old racist white men who want the place to themselves is just plain ignorant. They obviously feel, and the majority of Arizons citizens obviously do, that this is a situation that needs to be dealt with.

The point is to get rid of drug runners & criminals, many of whom are illegal aliens. What's wrong with that? Maybe the SF attorney will welcome them to his city? I'd normally say fat chance but due to SF's recent history, they just might.

[icee]

73. Remember one thing, though, ye of low post count. This is a

very passionate issue here at DU. People are likely to fly off the handle in response to seemingly innocuous remarks they don't agree with. I sold my house in Flagstaff because of immigrant problems. But my POV doesn't count. And here is why. In the minds of many illegal immigrants are pictured like the highway signs in border cities: a bedraggled old women running across the highway with four small children in tow. Course, this is not the way it usually is. Most illegal immigrant sympathizers don't care that hardworking Americans are many times getting the shaft because of illegal immigration. I could go on and on but why... I think you understand what I mean. Be careful of being called a flipper or freeper or whatever. That is an organization of conservatives, I think. If you do not agree with every item of the immigrant supporters you are not of the body. I don't care for San Francisco anymore. Years ago, when life was saner, it was fun. Now it's just another great place to avoid. Soon only the North Pole and deepest Africa will be safe place to visit. But, then, someone will be protesting ice fishing or something...

[Titanothere]

75. thanks for the advice, sounds like you've got a good perspective

I grew up in the Bay Area and it's certainly changed for the worse over the years. It used to be the demonstrations and counter culter throwbacks were sort of entertaining, and then they got elected to office. As you say the romanticism vs reality of illegal immigrant isn't quite understood by most who don't live in a border state, and they probably aren't interested in it. I just don't get why people can't give the citizens of Arizona the benefit of the doubt in knowing what they're talking about. It's the same mentality that would never believe me when I tell them that my Houston neighborhood has gone from a relatively crime free zone pre-Katrina to seeing everything from airport workers being murdered for a few bucks on their way to work to broad daylight holdups and burglaries by fellows who's names sound like they should be cooking up some bisque and baguettes if you know what I mean.

I'll say this for the illegal situation in Houston, I think it's a lot better than Az probably is because there's a lot of hard working guys here just trying to get by and I really don't hold anything against them. Other than institutional drunk driving, I really don't hear a ton of bad press on the illegals here. When crimes start being committed though, it's a different story. I think all this Arizona law is meant to do is give the cops some more leverage in rooting out the people they know are up to no good.

Sorry you had to leave Flagstaff, was just up there and Cloudcroft last summer. Spent some time in Jerome too. When I stopped in El Paso though I did not feel safe at all.

[FailureToCommunicate]

23. Arizona just doesn't learn: It took boycotts in the early 1990's over MLK holiday

recognition to reinstate it...

<https://decaturdaily.com/detail/51515.html?content_source=&category_id=&search_filter=&event_mode=&event_ts_from=&list_type=&order_by=&order_sort=&content_class=&sub_type=stories&town_id=>

[Taverner]

40. Good point!

We should make this loud and clear

[Cha]

48. I didn't know that..thanks! nt

[Quixote1818]

25. I think they are just trying to get Michael Savage to move out of SF

Maybe this will do the trick? :)

[Taverner]

39. Let's hope - that asshole farts in elevators and doesn't tip

And he's a racist, homophobic asshole to boot.

Personally, I hope he gets run over by a MUNI bus...

[valerief]

33. Great idea. Let's girlcott it, too!!!

:applause:

[orbitalman]

36. I await details with baited breath. nt

[EFerrari]

37. Bated unless you've baited your breath for some reason.

[liberation]

56. Maybe it was a Freudian slip? nt

[Taverner]

38. God I love SF

Makes me sad that I only lived there 3 months...

[pink-o]

50. Come back into the fold, Taverner! n/t

[Taverner]

71. I will...as soon as we rear our youngin's

SF is a hard place to raise kids - its not the schools, its the PARKING!!!

[joeglow3]

41. I can understand Arizona.

The number 2 employer of illegal immigrants in drywall companies. Growing up, my father was a union drywaller. I remember, as a kid, living a good middle class lifestyle. Then, the illegals began to show up. Company by company, the unions were busted. Wages dropped year after year. I remember the decline vividly – first the cable disappeared. Next, the family vacations stopped. After that, generic food started showing up at home. Then, we started eating Mac n Cheese, PB&J & Shit on a Shingle a lot more often. I remember my mom patching the holy hell out of our clothes and then, eventually making our clothes.
Fortunately, my father was good at his job and managed to switch to union companies everytime his went non-union. Whenever there was a big job, the companies with illegals would win the bid. Within the past 15 years, the built a $250M arena and it was filled with illegals. Their union contacted the subs, the contractors and the government. All of them did shit. Finally, they were able to get the local fishwrap to do a piece on it and EVERYONE claimed ignorance (and said they would fix it – i.e. they moved the illegals to all their other jobs and moved the few legal employees to that job).
He eventually made it to retirement age and now has a decent pension. However, we were royally fisted by the apathy of the government. If he would not have been one of the best in his field, we would most likely have ended up on the streets like many of his coworkers.
Now, look at additional problems Arizona is facing: ranchers getting murdered as drug wars spill over the border, hospitals closing their doors because they are bankrupt, etc. Frankly, the Federal Government has not done SHIT and forced Arizona to do something.
While I don’t agree with this bill, maybe it is the kick in the ass our government needs to finally quit pussy-footing around the issue and actually do their jobs.

[Titanothere]

69. Thanks for the personal insight, prepare to have your comment completely ignored

The proper response is to this story is "Screw Arizona and the racist horse it rode in on".

Never let the facts get in the way of a good emotional argument.

[abqmufc]

44. 21 Soverign Tribes in AZ - what will they do?

$515 million paid to State = Casino revenue!

Within the State of Arizona there are 21 federally recognized Tribes. According to federal law, States and Tribes are equal. States can not administer a law on Tribal lands, and vice versa. This includes police force, taxation, and administering federal programs that are normally operated by a State Agency (like the Clean Air Act or Clean Water Act, Child and Family Services, public health). It is this unique legal status that allows a Tribal person the right to fish and hunt when a non-tribal member could not. It is this unique legal status that allows Tribes to have on-reservation casino's in the State of Arizona.


In Arizona, the Arizona Tribal-State Gaming Compact between the State and 21 Tribes went into effect in 2003. The compact specifically sets forth the types of permitted games, establishes technical standards for the gaming machines, authorizes the state to inspect casinos, requires background investigations and licensing of casino employees and vendor companies, and requires tribes to contribute one to eight percent of their gaming revenue to state and local governments. The current compact lasts for ten years and can be renewed for another decade and one additional term of three years. It replaced compacts that were in effect from 1993 to 2003. The law was amended in 2009. (http://www.gm.state.az.us/compacts.htm)

Besides the regulatory function, the AZ Tribal - State Gaming Compact established a cash revenue for the State that is keeping it alive right now. (The same can be said for CA.)

In Fiscal year 2004 Tribes paid almost $38 million dollars in contributions to AZ Benefits fund via the mandate of the State gaming compact. In Fiscal year 2009, this number was just under $86.5 million dollars. So far in fiscal year 2010 $56.1 million has been collected. A total of over $500 million dollars has gone to State programs by people who are impacted by this specific law!
(http://www.gm.state.az.us/tcontributions_pdf/TC_Cumulative2-1-10.pdf)

The law impacts not only those of Mexican, Latin American heritage. It impacts the peoples of the 21 sovereign Tribal Nations. I think of many friends who call the Sonoran desert home. The people of the Tohono O’odham Nation.
(http://www.tonation-nsn.gov)
Their reservation and traditional homes extend into Mexico. They are Indians, they are Americans, they are Mexican. Dual nationalities but often not dual citizenship. I can only assume the local police are loving this law as they can now not only clean up the streets from Spanish speaking people, but also the Indians.

I hope the leaders of the Tribes in Arizona forget to submit their next quarterly payment to the State of Arizona Gaming Commission, and continue to do so until this law is taken off the books!

For more information on the Tribes in AZ, here is a link to the Inter-Tribal Council of Arizona.
http://www.itcaonline.com/about.html

[earcandle]

49. My City is sooooo COOL!

[howmad1]

51. Just in case there are any die hards who insist in coming to Arizona:

Don't bother. The rest areas are closed thanks to our moronic governor and rethuglican legisltors. Soooo, if you gotta take a piss or crap, you are literally, shit out of luck. On the other hand, feel free to shit all over this state, our Arizona goverment does it all the time.

[jillan]

63. lol - very well put, neighbor!

[Eg-ptiangirl]

52. Sorry but what does the law say?

I want to know what is the new law people are fighting about in news and forums. please answer.

[onpatrol98]

59. FACT SHEET FOR S.B. 1070

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/summary/s.1070pshs.doc.htm

Requires officials and agencies of the state and political subdivisions to fully comply with and assist in the enforcement of federal immigration laws and gives county attorneys subpoena power in certain investigations of employers. Establishes crimes involving trespassing by illegal aliens, stopping to hire or soliciting work under specified circumstances, and transporting, harboring or concealing unlawful aliens, and their respective penalties.

Federal law provides that any alien who 1) enters or attempts to enter the U.S. at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, 2) eludes examination by immigration officers, or 3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the U.S. by a willfully false or misleading representation is guilty of improper entry by an alien. For the first commission of the offense, the person is fined, imprisoned up to six months, or both, and for a subsequent offense, is fined, imprisoned up to 2 years, or both (8 U.S.C. § 1325).

[dmr]

61. Here you go:

The best thing is to Google this, and you'll get a wide assortment of news and views.

This law is unconstitutional. No one in this country should fear being stopped for any reason by those in authority.

Welcome to DU. :hi:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703465204575208382473306238.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion

- snip -

The law makes it a state crime to be in the U.S. without proper documents. It allows the police to stop anyone on "reasonable suspicion" that they may be in the country unlawfully and arrest them on the spot if they can't produce identity papers. The police aren't required to have a search warrant or even to suspect some illegal action has occurred before questioning a person. Traditionally the federal government has enforced immigration laws, so this is an extraordinary state criminalization of a heretofore federal authority.

Not every undocumented U.S. resident is Latino, but most are. Given that about one-third of Arizona residents are Latino, opponents of the measure fear it will raise charges of "racial profiling."

- more at above link -

[freeplessinseattle]

53. I know a number of people who go to watch spring training

(baseball). Still have some avid Mariner's fans, and gives them an excuse to get some pre-summer sunshine. so maybe some SF people go there for the same reason, that must give some boost to AZ. now maybe not so much..

[Freddie Stubbs]

54. They have a lot of nerve considering what the VOTERS of their own state did in 2008:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_%282008%29

[liberation]

57. I take the differences between "city" and "state" are not all to obvious to some of you?

[Blacksheep214]

55. On the bright side

My Green Bay Packers don't play in their shithole state this year so I won't be missing anything anyway.

To think that McCain and Palin could have been in charge.

How fucked up would that have made up on the world stage?

I'm white and 54 and think this is AFU! Life's too short to be a racist prick!

[alp227]

60. Meanwhile, on SFGate.com, heads are exploding

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/comments/view?f=/c/a/2010/04/26/BARD1D55P7.DTL

WARNING: DO NOT VIEW IF YOU CANNOT STOMACH APOLOGETICS FOR THIS NEW LAW!!!!!!!

The most recommended one was "Shouldn't Campos and the other Supes be worried about balancing SF's budget instead of worrying about what other states are doing?" Pretty reasonable. But it goes on and on and on into defenses like "How about giving AZ a standing ovation"

or mockery like "if Campos shows up in Arizona, can he be arrested and deported?" or "How about a boycott by the people on paying taxes that are used to support illegal aliens? Once again, the BOS wastes our time and money on things that are none of their business. Leave the sovereign State of Arizona alone, you lefty scoundrels."

And then there's this long rant about the illegal immigrants deserving it because the immigrants were breaking the law and are harming the American people.

But I think that if the Board, whose members were elected by the (liberal) people of San Francisco, thinks this way, so be it. Likewise, I betcha Dallas or Atlanta (whose boards of supervisors have conservative/possibly anti-immigrant members elected by the like-minded citizenry) might as well be drafting a resolution supporting this law, I suppose? :shrug:

[Titanothere]

70. You must not spend much time on SFGate, people are pretty sick of the local pols

And considering the high profile murders in SF connected to illegal immigrants I'd say those readers are pretty justified. SF has lots of problems and the local politicians care much more about grandstanding on national issues then doing anything about them.

Quite honestly I was shocked that they beat the Berkeley City Council to it; I guess they've got they're own murders (Telegraph ave) to worry about at the moment but I'm sure they'll get to it.

[alp227]

74. I read the SF Chronicle regularly and find this btching all the time on comments

A usual washer cycle of "kick out all the immigrants cuz they'll kill your mother" or "liberals are pro-criminal/nanny state/mentally ill". And regarding murder, last year SF recorded its lowest murder rate since the '60s, but yes some illegal immigrants who committed violent crime frequently made headlines around here (like Edwin Ramos). Can you name any more since AFAIK right now I can only name Ramos? Thank you.

[Titanothere]

76. that was the big one; my understanding was that murders were up

What about that college guy that was visting and got lured into the projects and got jacked? Still got nothing on Houston though, of course I can't imagine a city where the cost of living is so high could ever really manage to get a big city murder rate going, which is fortunate.

[alp227]

78. Murder of Michael Bailey? Dunno about the citizenship status of the suspects n/t

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/3-more-suspects-arraigned-in-tourist-murder-80074927.html

The five suspects are of black and Hispanic ethnicity, but I don't exactly know if the Hispanic suspects were illegal immigrants.

[Titanothere]

79. locals I'm pretty sure. No SF local in their right mind would have gone to that area at night.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

64. didn't they vote to rename the sewer system after GW?

I can't remember what happened, but that is a great city.

[jeremyfive]

65. Cool, doodz

I know I'm boycotting Arizona. I don't want to be arrested if I want to buy a taco there.

[workinclasszero]

72. BOYCOTT Arizona, the apartheid state! eom