Arizona Governor Signs Controversial Immigration Bill

[kpete]

Source: FOX

Arizona Governor Signs Controversial Immigration Bill

FOXNews.com

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer on Friday signed a controversial bill that seeks to crack down on illegal immigration.


Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer on Friday signed a controversial bill that seeks to crack down on illegal immigration.

The sweeping measure will make it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. It will also require local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are in the country illegally.

Earlier, President Obama called the bill "misguided" and said it could violate people's civil rights.The bill's Republican sponsor, state Rep. Russell Pearce of Mesa, said Obama and other critics of the bill were "against law enforcement, our citizens and the rule of law."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/23/arizona-governor-signs-controversial-immigration/

[gateley]

1. She's giving her reasons now in a little statement. nt

[gateley]

6. I almost understand her frustration - nothing has been done to secure our

borders despited repeated requests from border States, and with the drug cartel killings seeping over onto US soil, something has to be done to protect the people.

I just disagree with this bill -- regardless of the intent, it IS racial profiling.

The Federal Government is the one to point the finger to here, for letting it get to this point.

I'm encouraged to hear Obama essentially say the same thing, the Gov has to do something, this particular action is 'misguided'.

How do other countries protect their borders?

[pezDispenser]

13. they have the same troubles.

I watched the UK debate and the same topic was brought up. There is confusion about this subject everywhere. Unfortunately there is no simple solution - and reasonable debate gets drowned out by the extremes.

[gateley]

21. Other than a kind of Great Wall of China, I'm sure that most borders can be breached.

I don't know what I'd do if I were in a border State, especially with the escalating violence crossing over the boundary. It's a tough one, that's for sure.

[Bette Noir]

59. The Great Wall has been breached repeatedly.

It was a failure.

[gateley]

74. I was wondering about that when I typed it -- I'm not surprised. nt

[JonLP24]

98. They'll build tunnels

They have them already with lights and rooms built inside as well.

I live in Arizona and illegal immigration is not the cause for most of the violence. They account for less than 10% (based on what I read in The Arizona Republic) of crime. It's citizens accounting for the vast majority crime here.

[roody]

107. Smart countries have decriminalized drugs.

[Mother Smuckers]

2. Just watched the crazy bitch do it, on M$nBC

grr

[Drunken Irishman]

3. Fuck her.

[kpete]

11. yes

[cowman]

34. Easy for you

to say that but you dont have to deal with what the border states have to deal with and the Feds let it get this bad. I understand her frustrations with the inaction of the Feds.

[Drunken Irishman]

57. I guess you'd say the same if she said "shoot 'em"...

Sorry, but two wrongs do not make a right. Did you not learn that as a child? Yeesh.

[Bette Noir]

60. I live in a border state, and I'm sick of racism.

Or haven't you ever been pulled over by the cops and searched because they didn't think a crummy car like yours should be in a nice neighborhood by the beach?

[SargeUNN]

80. I live with it in ARIZONA

and I KNOW this law is garbage. We had the chance to have a decent Sheriff here in Saban and we got Nazi Arpaio instead. This law has already started to take it's toll here with one guy being arrested even though he broke no law, but too brown to be free of harrassment. It will get worse.

[Hepburn]

88. I live in SoCal and I say "FUCK HER."

Racsim no matter what the good intentions may be (assuming there is ever any good intentions associated with racisim -- which there are not) is NEVER acceptable.

Hint: Ends do NOT justify the means. Sheesh...

[JonLP24]

99. It's easy for me too

Fuck her.

[uppityperson]

108. I live in a border state and say Fuck her also. Where do you live?

[Deep13]

4. Those wacky secessionists!

They hate Federal law almost as much as they hate brown people. Well, I don't have any proof of citizenship handy, so I'll be staying away from AZ. Too bad, too. Except for the fascists, it's a nice place.

[Hepburn]

5. "AZ cannot sacrifice its quality of life..."

...for those brown people from Mexico.

Fuck her...:mad:

[Abq_Sarah]

78. Oh please...

This is a huge problem and not just in border states.

How many other countries in the world are expected to take in anyone who sneaks across the border and treat them as citizens?

Why is it that every other country has a "right" to enforce their borders and their laws but we're supposed to turn a blind eye?

[Hepburn]

86. Racist profiling vs. turning a blind eye.

GMAFB on what you think is OK. Racism is NOT.

[bluecoat_fan]

7. Let the lawsuits begin...

[activa8tr]

8. I hope she likes spending the next few years in federal court. n/t

[felinetta]

9. BOYCOTT ARIZONA

[Bette Noir]

61. Done. I wrote the (insert expletive here) this morning.

Darn-- and it looked like a good year for wildflowers, too.

[dixiegrrrrl]

81. Here is e-mail address for Ariz. Chamber of Commerce.

I am sure they would love to hear why some people do not wish to visit America's version of
East Germany.

Arizona Chamber of Commerce and Industry
1850 North Central Avenue
Suite 1433
Phoenix, Arizona 85004
ph: 602.248.9172
f: 602.265.1262
email: [e-mail]

[SoapBox]

10. BOYCOTT!

...boycott of Arizona...

Don't go there.

Don't buy there.

Just "don't" from there.

[happygoluckytoyou]

19. yeah..... i'm giving up cactus for lent..... and sand.... no more sand....

[happygoluckytoyou]

24. oh yes... almost forgot.... my planned vacation in... ARIZONA... and my arizona iced tea,,, f'them

oh wait.... arizona iced tea is from NEW YORK.... good... i like it

BOYCOTT THESE MAJOR LEAGE TEAMS ETC.... WHO SPRING TRAIN IN ZONA....
Arizona Diamondbacks in Tucson Electric Park, but also held games and practiced in Casa Grande.
Chicago Cubs in HoHoKam Park of Mesa.
Chicago White Sox in Camelback Ranch.
Cincinnati Reds in Goodyear Ballpark.
Cleveland Indians in Goodyear Ballpark.
Colorado Rockies in Hi Corbett Field of Tucson.
Kansas City Royals in Surprise Stadium, but also in Sun Cities Park near Youngtown.
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim in Tempe Diablo Stadium
Los Angeles Dodgers in Camelback Ranch
Milwaukee Brewers in Maryvale Baseball Park of Phoenix.
Oakland Athletics in Phoenix Municipal Stadium, but also in Indian School Park in Scottsdale.
San Diego Padres in Peoria Sports Complex.
San Francisco Giants in Scottsdale Stadium, but also in Papago Park of Phoenix.
Seattle Mariners in Peoria Sports Complex, but also in Chandler.
Texas Rangers in Surprise Stadium.

[bergie321]

29. I live here

And I will be boycotting as much as possible by buying as much as possible online to avoid adding sales tax revenues to the state coffers.

[pezDispenser]

12. BOOOO!

Great, our state is in terrible shape fiscally. Now we have to shell out more $$$ to defend this POS bill. Plus more cash to 'train' the police forces. unbelievable.

[atreides1]

26. Question

What makes you think they're going to train the police? Police are trained to look for certain ways that people act already, so why waste money?

[pezDispenser]

48. She also ordered an executive order

calling for training of local police forces. I guess they can use the money from completely eliminating kindergarten.

executive order

[Not Me]

64. Plus the costs of housing and prosecuting them

Hate runs deep.

[Kali]

14. another embarrassment stacked on the pile

of shame - oh well, time to go to court

[Democat]

15. The "Breathing While Brown" bill.

If you are Mexican, you are guilty until proven innocent under this bill.

Too bad the Republican activists on the Supreme Court - the ones that Democrats refused to block - will never overturn it.

[SoapBox]

16. And what about...

SO...now that the Goose-Steppers can stop anyone they want...well, of course it will only be people with brown skin...are they going to begin a statewide search, top to bottom?

And then what?

Are they going to cuff parents and leave the American born children alone in the home? WHO is going to take care of their children?

And, they say that they have about 450,000 that are in the state illegally (guess that number is in reference to "them thar Mexy-cans" and doesn't include anyone from any OTHER country, there illegally)...are they going to CLEAR the state of all of them? How long will that take? WHO is going to pay for that?

I can hardly wait to see the thousands of American WHITE people that will line up for jobs. Ya know...gardening...nanny...slaughter houses...digging ditches...etc. All for minimum wage and NO benefits of any kind. I'm sure that there will be THOUSANDS just begging for all of those jobs.

I hope my "snark" is evident. There are morons running that state and they are REPUBLICANS.

BOYCOTT Arizona.

[OrderedChaos]

22. Boycotting is not a good idea

Yeah, Boycotting AZ; that makes no sense. You are all for penalizing the people who live and work here; the very people you are saying are going to be effected by this Bill. The people who need to have the jobs that come from Tourism and Conventions. This Bill was not given to the people to vote on; it was created by the State Congress and then given to the Governor to sign. I don't agree with the bill at all, but boycotting a state that had no say in the outcome of it is a little extreme (just like the people who you are mad at).

[Tempest]

28. The bill is supported by 70% of AZ residents

Boycotting AZ is a damn good idea.

[OrderedChaos]

35. So did you also boycott CA?

You know, when they passed Prop 8? It was given to the people of CA and they spoke. Their Hate Bill passed. Did you stop watching TV, movies or anything that had to do with CA? I didn't think so.

[Tempest]

40. Yes, in fact I did

I got a list of local businesses and professionals who contributed to the yes on 8 campaign and I stopped doing business with them.

I used the same list to create a new list of businesses and professionals to patronize who contributed to the no on 8 campaign.


Why would I boycott TV and movies? They tend to be left of center.

[OrderedChaos]

51. You were talking about Boycotting all AZ

The whole state, not just the people you put the Bill into effect. I thought you would apply it the same way to CA. Since, you know, the whole state got a chance to vote on their Bill, and decided that Gays do not have a right to marry.
TV and Movies are made mostly in CA, or have their offices there. Why not "punish" them by Boycotting them?
Sorry. we are getting off tangent here, and I don't want to get this issue too far off subject.
I have issues with the Bill. It is way over the top and all it will do is allow Sheriff Joe Arpio more power that he will continue to abuse. The issue I have with your statement is punishing the people who live in the state with a boycott. All it does is hurt the people who reside here, not the lawmakers. Same thing goes for Sanctions. The only people they hurt are the regular people, not the ones who make policy.

[Tempest]

54. Since I don't live in AZ, boycotting the state makes sense

I live in CA so boycotting the state isn't feasible or practical, that's why I boycotted businesses who supported prop 8.

I don't have a reason to travel to AZ, and now I won't go out of my way to find one.



If businesses don't want to be boycotted, they will need to find a way of giving people a reason not to.

[Bette Noir]

68. Is that a real number?

If 29% of AZ residents are Latino, and 70% of AZ residents support this bill, either only 1% of white Arizonans are open-minded, or there are a lot of self-hating Latinos around.

[Tempest]

72. Yup, it's real

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8191311

There will always be groups of people who support issues and vote for candidates which are against their best interests.

[Name removed]

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[jeff47]

52. You're thinking about government the wrong way

"This Bill was not given to the people to vote on; it was created by the State Congress and then given to the Governor to sign."

The government isn't some far-off cabal. We're a democracy. WE are our government. The people of AZ selected these representatives and governor. If these representatives and governor screw up, it's ultimately the people's failure.

Reagan was very successful at convincing people that the government was someone else, doing things to them. Conservatives have beat the hell out of that drum for 30 years now. The reality is the government is us, and we are doing it to ourselves.

Will a boycott hurt the people of AZ? Yep. That's the point - the goal is to hurt the people in charge, not their servants.

[Tempest]

56. Your post should be read by everyone

Thank you.

And welcome to DU!

:headbang:

[Cha]

87. Thank you..Rec your post. nt

[JonLP24]

100. I don't think it will do much

to affect the politicians. They will still have a job and the rest of us will have 13% or 14% state unemployment. I'm sure not purchasing from businesses here or would hurt the servants rather than the people in charge.

[jeff47]

105. Of course it would hurt the people in charge

Because the people in charge are "the people". The legislature are the servants. Picking one's servants poorly should hurt.

[Bette Noir]

63. So what's your answer? A strongly worded letter?

Hell, I'm staying away from Arizona for my own safety. I don't want to wind up in an Arizonan jail for failing to carry my passport while traveling within the US.

[Hansel]

73. Nope, it's got to happen. AZ is the test case.

If they don't get quick and very strong retribution, other states will follow. This stuff is a creeping cancer and it is a very slippery slope.

Other states need to know that the consequences will be devastating for enacting laws that require American citizens to carry papers or risk going to jail for the crime of living while Hispanic. I have family members who are Hispanic who are born and raised in this country. One of them did 4 tours in Iraq on the front lines. No one should ever ask her for her papers.

This needs to be nipped in the bud and nipped in the bud hard.

Then AZ and the US government need to get real and enforce the laws on employers who hire those in the country illegal in order to pay cheap wages and avoid taxes.

[kpete]

17. “Man at the Crossroads” by Diego Rivera

[E-Z-B]

18. What is going on with this state this week?

[DesertRat]

20. Please help us defeat her in November!

Support Terry Goddard for Governor!
http://www.terrygoddard.com/
http://www.facebook.com/#!/terrygoddardaz?v=info

[LynneSin]

23. So if my skin is not white or I talk with a funny accent - I'm pretty much guilting in Arizona

Fuck them!

[Dramarama]

25. I need an Anglicized name

:/

[amb123]

27. It's now a crime to be an Hispanic in Arizona.

If your last name is Lopez, Rodriguez or Sanchez, AZ Law Inforcement officers cal Haul your "EZ" to Jail then deport you, no matter how much ID and proof of citizenship you provide!

I HATE ARIZONA! I WANT OUT!

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[kelly1mm]

65. While the law may be azz-backwards the law calls for one to provide

proof of citizenship when asked by a law enforcement officer if said law enforcement officer has "reasonable suspicion" that one is in this country illegally. If citizenship papers are provided then the law does not call for all hispanics to be deported. Additionally, AZ cannot deport anyone. How it generally works is local law enforcement turns illegal immigrants over to ICE and they deport the person.

The law is jacked up enough as it is - no need to exaggerate what it does.

[Name removed]

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[DuaneBidoux]

31. If this doesn't get Latinos in Arizona off their ass and to the polls in Nov nothing will.

[Dramarama]

33. Silver lining?

[Tempest]

42. I think the backlash is going to be swift and surprise a lot of people

The law will be abused before November and Hispanics will come out in force.

I'll bet voter registration drives in Hispanic neighborhoods see a big increase by September.

[onestepforward]

47. I agree.

It is the only silver lining that I can see. Arizona is about 29% Latino.

[Rozlee]

67. Is that all? 35% of Texas is Hispanic. And we're an effin' red state.

I know that in the 08 election, we tottered on the edge of being purple, but those damn gerrymandering Rethugs are hitting us hard by trying to re-align our districts. The only thing we Hispanics have got going for us is that we're screwing like bunnies and out populating them right now. But, a population of 29% isn't going to make much of a dent unless they really pick up and surge. Surging is a problem for us. Especially among the youth in poor areas. In 2000, my kids had textbooks that taught them about what a great leader Saddam Hussein was and how he was bringing Iraq into greatness and prosperity. No, Arizona isn't getting rid of anything. If it was, they would have gotten rid of that asswipe sheriff.

[DuaneBidoux]

75. Actually that's a lot with 35% and a great GOTV the GOP is cooked.

[MellowDem]

94. About 1/3 of Hispanics voted for McCain...

in the last election. If that number can be reduced by bills like this, Texas becoming blue in 2012 is highly likely. But, for all I know a majority of Hispanic citizens were for this bill? The Republicans have been actively courting the Hispanic vote for some time now.

[onestepforward]

109. 29% is a big chunk of the population.

It is big enough to sway an election IF people get out and vote.

Latinos could have an even bigger influence here in Texas with our even larger Latino population. Getting folks out to vote has been a challenge, but I think that this new law in Arizona will help to motivate more voters. We are within reach this year to replace Perry! Bill White is only 4 points away in the latest poll. :)

[soupkitchen]

32. Just another Republican Not See

She Not See the shame
She Not See the consequences

[alp227]

36. BOOOO!!!!! No excuses for racial profiling should EVER be in law

The American way does NOT allow for a police state structure just to weed out the non-citizens. Check just the brown people: that's racial profiling. Check everyone equally: that's Orwellian. So what IS a non-racist, politically correct (uh-oh, right-wing talking point?) way of finding illegal immigrants without compromising civil liberties? :shrug:

A reasonable court should toss this. It's state law over-reaching its authority. On "All Things Considered" I heard the governor complaining that the federal government wasn't doing enough about immigration. I agree with her with that somehow.

[DCBob]

37. This action drives home the fact that the Republican party is first and foremost..

a white man's party. Hispanics need not apply.

[Tempest]

43. When the head of the RNC says there's no reason for Blacks to support the GOP

You know they won't be making progress with any other minority as well.

[DCBob]

62. What the GOPers gain with white-faced Teabaggers they probably lose twice that...

with minority groups. Not smart from a political or human rights point of view.

[Hepburn]

90. Make that when the Black head of the RNC says...

...unbelievable. Asshole admits that his party is racist and he stays put. Must be the percs and not the ethics...ya think?

[marshall]

38. If they must do something, crack down on the folks who hire the "illegals"

Because unless they are hired by somebody, they are just foreign tourists spending their hard earned pesos or pounds or francs in our country, and that's a good thing.

[Tempest]

44. Never happen

Businesses rely on cheap labor and the GOP relies on business' contributions.

[mac56]

49. Yup.

The GOP is the party of cheap labor conservatives.

[impik]

39. Time to flip Arizona

Make it blue already. What a fucked up state.

[Name removed]

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[skip fox]

45. Due in part to the Mad Hatters:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8203946

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8202772

[timmymoff]

46. arizona office of tourism

Here is the web address to the Arizona Office of Tourism.
[e-mail] .  I Recommend anyone not from Arizona to
write this office as well as the Governors office and explain
why you won't be spending your dollars in Arizona.  I am also
contacting the Chicago cubs (my team) and asking them to move
to Florida. :)

[Bette Noir]

66. Done. Thanks for the address.

[Jefferson23]

70. Great idea!

[KamaAina]

71. Oh, sweet!

Both the Giants and A's train in AZ as well. And the A's are considering a move to heavily Latino San Jose.

[LuckyLib]

82. Done. Sent the following.

We had plans for Arizona for upcoming summer – after your legislature and governor have made it clear that Latinos/Hispanics will be required to carry papers to keep from being deported, we have changed our plans. No vacation with friends (we’ve convinced them to go elsewhere as well), no monetary tourist support to your state. We vote with our feet. All of the major issues confronting our cities, our schools, and our unemployed Americans, and you want to bring out the worst policies possible toward hard working folks. Even police departments don’t want this bill! What can your legislators be thinking?

[dixiegrrrrl]

83. Here is Ariz. Chamber of Commerce e-mail

and etc.

Arizona Chamber of Commerce and Industry
1850 North Central Avenue
Suite 1433
Phoenix, Arizona 85004
ph: 602.248.9172
f: 602.265.1262
email: [e-mail]

[JonLP24]

101. Nooooo

I live in Mesa and the Cubs is all we have. In fact our slogan is, "The Winter Home of The Chicago Cubs."

The damn Cactus league raised ticket prices so they could afford a nice stadium or upgrades at HoHoKam Park to get them to stay here. :cry:

[Plucketeer]

50. Get your checkbooks out!

Let's turn Arizona BLUE! :woohoo:

[Dappleganger]

53. It's like FISA all over again.

Constitution? We don't need no stinking Constitution!


:cry: :banghead: :banghead:

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[NOLALady]

79. Heavens.

Don't you think Africa has enough problems?

[Bette Noir]

58. Fuck Brewer, fuck Arizona.

I'm not going back there until the law is repealed, or, more likely, overturned by the courts.

[Jefferson23]

69. What a horrible vile stain on Arizona, I feel for those opposed to this law.

:puke:

[DuaneBidoux]

76. When it comes to race they got a couple of doozies too. They fought MLK day.

That would be a stain of shame I would take to my grave.

[DuaneBidoux]

77. When it comes to race they got a couple of doozies too. They fought MLK day.

That would be a stain of shame I would take to my grave.

[proust78]

84. Hope McCain likes the weather in Panama !!

If he forgets to carry that Panamanian birth certificate let's ship him back first and ask questions later.

[BlueCollar]

85. Relax Gringo...I'm here legally

T-shirt I just bought here in Fort Worth, Texas...

[Steve20]

89. immigration

Maybe the federal gov't should do it's job and secure the border. Instead of policing the world, put some troops on the border. Also, NAFTA should be repealed.

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[Steve20]

93. re

Didn't say I completely support the bill.

[Hepburn]

95. I have read your other posts on the DU ...

... you did not need to say you supported the bill. It is evident you do.

JMHO

[Unvanguard]

91. Yay, racial profiling! n/t

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

96. what next, concentration camps, lampshades of human skin?

soap from the fat?

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[Odin2005]

103. BREWER IS A FASCIST RACIST ASSHOLE.

[fleabert]

104. rather than boycott, wouldn't it be 'fun' to do a protest inspired by the bill?

show up in the 'wrong' clothes, shoes, etc. Speaking any language besides English in public, looking confused by signs in stores and on the street- and when asked for our Papers, don't have any. refuse to produce, get arrested, then produce proof of citizenship-

might be a huge waste of money and time, but it would make a point about how stupid it is to profile. i am white, but have a foreign sounding name- should i be stopped?

[onehandle]

106. Gun Rights > Human Rights. Arizona in a nutshell. nt

[workinclasszero]

110. Will there be Freedom Riders going to Arizona

like back in the 60's??

[Jkid]

111. On the Rachel Maddow show.

She said that if Jan Brewer signed the bill, these words would be connected to her. Well, I'm going to deliver.

[workinclasszero]

112. They came for the Hispanics but I didn't speak up....

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

--------"First they came ..." is a famous statement attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller


But it can't happen here, right?

RIGHT????

[Jkid]

113. The reason why they will not speak up for them is the potential backlash.

Especially from the anti-immigrants groups.

[classysassy]

114. " Once upon a time"

Arizona was a nice place to live,before all of the snowbirds and carpet baggers arrived.The snowbirds came and refuse to go home,the carpetbaggers,the likes of McCain,Kyl,rewer,Hayworth,Sheriff Joe and his thugs.