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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:07 AM
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Lieberman: 'Thank God' political momentum now with Republicans
Source: The Hill


Lieberman: 'Thank God' political momentum now with Republicans
By Michael O'Brien - 04/13/10 10:43 AM ET

It's a good thing that voters have moved against the prospect of one-party control of Congress for decades, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said.

Lieberman, an Independent senator who caucuses with Democrats, acknowledged momentum for the GOP and said that independents had become alienated from Democrats, who control both the House and the Senate.

"There were a lot of people, particularly Democrats, who were declaring after the 2008 election that we were beginning a period of Democratic dominance that would go on for decades," Lieberman said during an interview with the conservative Newsmax magazine. "Now, all of a sudden, the momentum is with the Republicans. And that's — thank God — that's the way people have spoken, you know? That's our democracy."

The Connecticut senator has stepped on the toes of fellow party members before, having endorsed his Republican colleague, Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), for president in 2008 over Barack Obama, who was a Democratic senator from Illinois at the time.

"If the election were held today, there's no question that there'd be significant Republican gains in Congress," Lieberman said.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/91851-lieberman-thank-god-political-momentum-now-with-gop
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:10 AM
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1. If God is behind it, then He's an evil bastard.
Anyway, the momentum is not with them, it's with "I'm unemployed and losing my house! Aaaargh!!!"
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 02:05 PM
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32. "they" always say GOD is with them when anything goes their way, but they say America has turned
from GOD when it doesn't, like when the nation overwhelmingly chose the guy with the Muslim-sounding name for president.

If anyone doesn't think that this entirely isn't about a Muslim-sounding named black man, and concerns over Satan's power on the U.S., then they're sorely mistaken.

The Jews/Christians that are not progressive minded like JESUS CHRIST, but hinge on an old testament style of belief clearly think Obama is with the devil/Muslims/anti-American. The fact that he's a black man just adds to it two-fold!

I am a devout Christian, but I believe in the goodness that HE teaches, whereas the wingnuts believe in warfare, as if GOD can't handle things on HIS own, in HIS own time! They are terrifyingly dangerous, as thousands die because of their weak-minded actions (how many soldiers from the USA have died? how many millions of Iraqis and Afghans have died as a result of our being there).

Good men and women of GOD, and those who don't believe in a god need to stand up against the ones that claim dominion over our gov't as their "god given right", and keep calling them out for the loons they are.

GOD can fight HIS own battles, HE wants us to witness HIS love, and care for the downtrodden - something the Republicons don't care to do. Remember those Michigan militiamen said they were defending JESUS' message to be heard? - LOLOL... okay, blasphemers, I think JESUS can take care of it... they have thin skin.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 02:17 PM
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34. It does seem odd to me that RWers claim to be Christians.
Whether one accepts the conservative or liberal view of Christianity, one thing remains consistent. The NT is anti-materialism (in the greed sense of the word). Why are these people so quick to get in bed with these corporate interests when Jesus and Paul and the others all say to eschew the riches of this world and instead to live an austere life, preferably in charity, to prepare for the afterlife. It's very odd.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 03:11 PM
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36. excellent point!
I am not perfect, but I do try to live a life of charity, and giving of my time to others, as you stated, as a way of preparing for when my time here is done. These people that claim Christianity but have more money than they'd ever need and mansions/luxury cars are foolin' themselves, but whatever. I just don't like them using JESUS as a tool for their feeling better about themselves, when they know deep down their tight-arses and judgmental of the poor, different races, GLBT people, etc - when there's people of all types in their family circles.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 06:07 PM
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44. Any God that is affiliated with Lieberman is most assuredly "an evil bastard".
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:11 AM
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2. Look under "A" in the dictionary
and you will see lieberman's picture next to the word Asshole to illustrate the meaning of the word.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:12 AM
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3. Have the good people of Connecticut
had their fill of this clown yet?
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:39 AM
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16. More than enough. n/t
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:14 AM
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4. I don't have a ton of gripes with the Obama administration,
but the fact that they have not tarred and feathered this son of a bitch and run him out of town on a rail is one of them.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 07:36 PM
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45. Ditto!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:14 AM
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5. Lieberman is a horrible little man
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 03:28 PM
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38. He'sa horrible little Draft Dodger
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madchick44 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 03:26 AM
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50. He caucuses with Dems to spy on them
eom
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:14 AM
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6. This makes me laugh...
I think the Republicans (Joe included) are attempted to persuade public
opinion by suggesting that Republicans are going to sweep in 2012. If they
say it enough times, people will start to believe it. Then, the Repubs will
be energized to vote and the Dems may just be demoralized enough to stay home.

Boy, are these fools in for a rude awakening. Just because the right wing of the
right wing is getting 24/7 media coverage and their impact is being greatly
exaggerated--doesn't exactly translate into more votes. It's all hyperbole
to get ratings.

The rabid right wingers have always been that way. They were that way during the
2012 election and look what effect they had? Oh that's right...Obama was elected.

Certain economic indicators are improving, the deficit is being cut and no one
is being ushered to a death panel. The Republicans, by November, will be shown
to be liars and chicken-little jerks with no plan.

They might win some seats. The trend does go back and forth. However, there is no
way that they will have some big mandate or psychological advantage--as they did in
1994.

Lieberman is just repeating his wishes--in hopes that they come true. Nimrod.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:23 AM
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9. The Democrats problem is not the Tea Party but the lack of enthusiasm amont rank and file Dems
HCR did not get the Dem base enthused. It got the right wing based enthused. The trickle down economic policies of Obama are doing little to get millions meaningful jobs. He's doing a decent job extending unemployment benefits, but how much longer will he do that?

Mid-term elections are about motivating the base and Obama has failed to do that.

Speaking of the economy, if millions are still unemployed by October and the banksters give themselves another big bonus payout, I can see the Dem base staying home or spending more time research the Want Ads than going to the polls.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:36 AM
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14. I agree with your post. n/t
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:54 PM
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23. true...yet
I have to admit as effing pissed off as I am at this administration, every time Lieberman opens his mouth -- along with a host of others -- he inspires me to head out to the polls to vote against him.

I want to vote green. I want to vote for positive, serious, significant change, not the least evil. It's the massive stoopid that gets under my skin, though. Every. Effing. Time.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 01:28 PM
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25. Start voting with your conscience...
Edited on Tue Apr-13-10 01:29 PM by liberation
... The saying that starts with "fool me once..." applies in this case ever so ironically.

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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 04:16 PM
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41. Glad you're voting but what are you doing to get other Progressives and Dems
to go to the polls with you?
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 09:13 AM
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51. don't count your votes before they're hatched
I live in a very red area. One neighbor put out a sign for Kerry some years ago. Apparently learned better than to put out a sign for Obama.

My first responsibility is to protect myself and my furfamily. That means protect them from hateful neighbors. That also means keeping us fed and warm next winter.

I've paid hundreds of thousands in taxes over the years, happily because it was the "right" thing to do. Now, when the chips are down, I've been lied to and cheated by the state university, and am on the brink of financial ruin as a result.

The big question in front of me is will we eat or heat next winter. That's how bad things have gotten as a result of this economic debacle. The stimulus package has yet to reach me in any meaningful way. Voting is way down on my list of priorities. Recruiting votes? No. I did for Kerry, who pissed away my time with a crappy campaign. I donated to Obama, who has stabbed me in the back with most of his policies.

It will take a lot of Lieberman stoopid to motivate me when November rolls around and I still have an empty oil furnace.
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loki341 Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 03:35 PM
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39. Why I'm voting
I'm not totally happy with this administration or the HCR enacted either; what's motivating me to go to the polls in November, though, is the throng the right-wing nut jobs out there protesting whatever Fox "News" tells them to. They don't even seem to care if their arguments are factual, coherent, or even internally consistent anymore (if they ever did), and now you have Birchers, Militias, and Secessionists given legitimacy and a platform to spew their paranoia. As long as they are louder and angrier than any of their opponents (namely us or anyone else who values reason, rationality, or common decency), they feel they've won. If Republicans make any significant gains in November then they will see it as a mandate to move their policies even further to right than they have already. This will make it nigh on impossible for Progressives to do anything at all, let alone do something without being barraged with epithets like Communist, baby-killer or any number of racial slurs, or even threatened with violence. This isn't some dystopian fiction; this isn't hyperbole; this has happened and is happening.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:18 PM
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19. that's the spin alright
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hewitt Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:17 AM
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7. He is such a bastard....
and he believes he is such a good religious man. I wish Obama would take him aside and law down the law.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:22 AM
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8. Why do the Democrats keep giving this ass committees?
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 10:21 AM
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52. Because they are still spineless
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:23 AM
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10. "Thank God there's this Titanic I can cling to!"
Oh look, Joe's finally found his party.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:26 AM
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11. Why does this Senator caucus with the Democrats much less keep his Committee Leadership Positions?
Edited on Tue Apr-13-10 11:28 AM by ShortnFiery
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 01:30 PM
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26. If you have to ask....
:-)
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:29 AM
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12. Thanks again, Connecticut!
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 01:30 PM
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27. Maybe they were trying to top the Bush clan?
You know... the gift that keeps on giving.
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tonekat Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:29 AM
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13. What babbling Joe the AssHat meant to say was...
"...Thank Goodness there are so many Americans, who would much rather absorb the sketchy, biased mainstream (read: corporate) media's fictional nonsense than make any attempt to obtain a viewpoint that isn't sponsored by special interests and thus come to believe the incredible cornucopia of lies that the Republican machine issues...I mean, who in their right mind would buy my standard line of BS if I didn't have their help?"
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:37 AM
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15. Liebermoron and NewsMax. Now there's some credibility.
Listen up Joe. I switched to Independent a couple of years ago, because of Democrats like you. You used to be called one, remember? Even though I'm Independent now, I'll still NEVER vote for a repuke, even though there's quite a few Democrats I'll never vote for either. You know, the kind of Democrat you were.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:58 AM
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17. Joe Lieberman..
Why is this guy allowed to caucus with the dems?
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:01 PM
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18. This weasel makes my blood boil...
Hey Droopy...guess what...I hate you.

*sticking out tongue*
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:20 PM
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20. Momentum, or Inertia?
An object in motion tends, in the absence of any applied force, to remain in motion, while an object at rest tends to remain at rest....Newton's First Law

http://www.historyforkids.org/scienceforkids/physics/movement/newtonlaw1.htm
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:27 PM
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21. Obama compromises too much.
We don't know whether the Democrats in Congress are on our side or not. They have funded Wall Street with the big bucks. The big boys on Wall Street are getting millions in bonuses, but our cities and schools are approaching bankruptcy. Our police officers and teachers are getting pink slips.

And the health care bill -- won't lower the cost of medical care. It just protects the profits of the insurance industry.

The wiretapping appears to be continuing.

Guantanamo is still in operation holding men who were innocent when they entered and would be understandably bitter and angry if we released them.

The Iraq War continues.

We continue to make a mess in Afghanistan.

Except for Berney Maddoff, there have been no indictments for the crimes on Wall Street, no indictments for illegal wiretapping, no indictments for torture. And in spite of Citizens United which is virtually a license for corporations to buy politicians, Siegelman is still in jail or about to go there as far as I know.

What is there to get excited about?

Well, banks are out of the student loan business.

And very poor people will be able to get basic health care -- provided they can afford the co-pays.

Oh, yes, and we could be in a worse economic mess. (

The list of stuff to be disgusted about is much longer than the list to be excited about. That's what is wrong with the Democratic Party's chances in November.

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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 01:37 PM
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28. We dropped the public option and Medicare expansion for..
Edited on Tue Apr-13-10 01:37 PM by mvd
this turncoat. Not a wise move, IMO. :-(
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 01:38 PM
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29. It is a common misconception that Obama is "compromising"
Edited on Tue Apr-13-10 01:39 PM by liberation
He is a center-right politician, siding with right wing policies seems not that much of a compromise for someone who is already in the neighborhood.

The problem is when liberals are so desperate for representation as to project their expectations on an administration which is not aligned with them ideologically at all.

Heck, the Chief of Staff for this president has gone as far as stating publicly that liberals are "retarded." I have no clue how much more evident they have to make their contempt for liberals for them to start getting the memo. Right now is starting to resemble some weird case of abused spouse syndrome. "Obama hates liberals because he loves us... and he does it because it is best for us."

Now it is Obama's prerogative, for sure. And for tastes there are colors, and he seems to be far more in line with neo-liberal policies. Fine. But this whole expectation of having actual liberals support him just because, when this administration don't even pretend to even throw an actual bone our way... is getting a tad ridiculous IMHO.

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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 04:25 PM
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42. A old style Republican of 20-30yrs ago
I do have issues with many parts of the Democratic Party but I then look at the alternative, a totally insane Republican party. Obama and the Democratic Party do aim for the middle, usually end up center right but not as hard right as you can go as with the current GOP nuttiness. They have no viable options right now period. They do not have viable alternatives period. It is a choice between Choice A with the Democratic Party or no choice with the Republican Party. I will go with Choice A.
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Gwoppi Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:54 PM
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22. A shanda fur die goyim
I have nothing else to add to this bastard. Pre-emptive strike edited to share that I am Jewish.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:59 PM
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24. That snake is already preparing to flip.
He has absolutely no moral center or core political beliefs (outside of support for the Israeli government).

If the Senate goes Republican you can bet Joe will be sidling up to them before Mitch McConnell changes his nameplate.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 01:39 PM
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30. Well, He does worship that pissy and vindictive old testament god...
so I guess it is apt
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 02:06 PM
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33. yep, just mentioned old testament above. Lie-berman is a coward and doesn't think much of
GOD, based on Joey's words.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 01:59 PM
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31. let me finish his thought: "Thank God FOR ME." nt
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Crystal Clarity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 02:36 PM
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35. Has anyone ever noticed
the unseemly amount of time Lieberman seems to spend with his Republican collegue Susan Collins? They're on the same committee, however that affiliation doesn't fully explain their seemingly constant "togethorness". It's as if they're joined at the hip

They're both equally unattractive IMO. Perhaps they have (ahem) other things in common? :shrug:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 03:25 PM
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37. That sounds like some overeager chicken counting, Joe.
I sure hope so, anyway.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 04:14 PM
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40. One thing for sure- Reid's on the way out and that means Lieberman's chairmanship is out, too
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 05:26 PM
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43. People "speak" on election day.
We will see what happens. And we'll see what CT voters do in 2.5 years with his career.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 07:44 PM
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46. When have the people spoken for Republicans lately?
Scott Brown? McDonnell? Is that it?

Of course, Lieberman doesn't mention the stunning defeat in NY-23. OR the latest polls saying that people have NO faith in the GOP. What was it, 28% favourable?

The only thing he has RIGHT is that there's disappointment in Democrats.

The only "momentum" is towards the "independent" category.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 07:57 PM
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47. In other news, Joe Lieberman was diagnosed with incurable dementia.
Poor guy.
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 11:12 AM
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53. I do believe it was a self-inflicted ailment
due to inhaling too much of his own methane, from keeping his face too well buried within the source.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 09:31 PM
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48. traitor joe....
....are you stirring the pot again?

"If the election were held today, there's no question that there'd be significant Republican gains in Congress,"

....good point....and if your election were held today I'd certainly vote for Republican before I'd ever vote for you....
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 09:40 PM
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49. Uh, NO...
Delusional much LIEberman?

I think those crooked pukes fucks are in for a rude awakening.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 06:34 PM
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54. He's auditioning for his next gig. THANK GOD he and his buddy McShame will be history
very soon.
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