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RantinRavin Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:18 AM
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NJ man arrested in connection to gang-rape case
Source: AP via Yahoo News

TRENTON, N.J. – Police ramped up their investigation Thursday into the case of a 7-year-old girl who they say was gang-raped by a group of men while her 15-year-old stepsister watched and got paid for it.
Police conducted a pre-dawn raid at the troubled public housing complex, a high-rise apartment building so dangerous that officers are hired as security guards at night.
Hours before, they arrested a 20-year-old Trenton man on charges he had sex with the teenager in one of the apartments.
Gregory Joseph Leary was booked Wednesday night on charges of statutory rape and endangering the welfare of a child. Under New Jersey law, the 15-year-old is too young to consent to sex.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100402/ap_on_re_us/us_teen_sister_sex
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 08:39 AM
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1. This is beastly insane!
All should face severe penalties including the evil stepsister.
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IthinkThereforeIAM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 10:05 AM
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2. I shudder at the loss of innocence and sense of wonder with the world ...

... that happens to kids who are abused, especially in this way. Can you imagine all the dynamic potential that is ruined for these two girls? It seems 2 days cannot pass without news of more abused children. And this is in America.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 10:11 AM
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3. The men certainly need to be prosecuted, but the company which
mismanages this complex needs to be shut down for creating a public nuisance or whatever the applicable statute in NJ may be. Only the massive kind of negligence which comes from short-sighted greed can create this kind of climate. They should lose the property, pay large civil judgments to the girls, and face jail time for creating this hell hole.

And yes, I do own rentals myself, so I am well aware of what it takes to run a complex successfully, creating a quiet and safe environment for all tenants.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 11:41 AM
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4. Future priests of America. nt
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 09:36 AM
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60. The priests would have been more interested in the 15 year old
And then only a 15 year old boy, doncha know.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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5. 5 charged in gang rape of girl, 7, in NJ apartment
Source: AP

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) - Two adults and three juveniles have been charged with gang-raping a 7-year-old girl who was sold by her 15-year-old stepsister during a party at a crime-ridden apartment building, police said Saturday. Details on the arrests were announced at a Saturday night news conference at police headquarters in Trenton, the state's capital city.

The arrested people include a 20-year-old man who already had been charged Friday with having sex with the 15-year-old. The other four are a 19-year-old Trenton man and boys ages 13, 14 and 17. Each was charged with aggravated sexual assault and child endangerment.

Police said further arrests may be made in the case, which shocked residents of the gritty Rowan Towers apartment building.

Authorities say the 7-year-old girl was offered for sale by her stepsister on March 28. They say the stepsister went to a party with some men at Rowan Towers and the younger girl tagged along because she worried about her stepsister's safety.



Read more: http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?pnum=1&bfromind=7401&eeid=7214438&_sitecat=1522&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=-2&ck=&ch=ne&rg=blsadstrgt&l=hm
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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6. Unbelievably sick!
Ugh!
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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8. Where does it say they don't?
But sure... this is all the fault of single mothers. :puke:

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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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25. The 15-year-old's father is the 7-year-old's stepfather. nt
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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31. Exactly my point.
It's the sister who *did* have a father that sold the 7 year old into prostitution. Thank god Dad was around to raise her right.

And as for the boys committing the rape... the article doesn't say boo about whether or not they have a father around. And it's not relevant to the discussion. Plenty of boys who had fathers in their lives grow up to rape and plenty of boys with single mothers learned how to respect women just fine.

Of all the things to focus on in this article... single mothers is the most absurd.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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36. I was just pointing out to the father fetishist that there WAS a father in the home.
I wasn't agreeing that single mothers were the problem. After my divorce, when my kids were 3 1/2 years old and 21 months old, I was a single mother--and a damned good one.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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52. One problem is that it wasn't *her* father.
You're not just "a" father or "a" mother.

The results are different if the father is married to the mother; the results are different if the man sharing the mother's bed is the kid's father.

Complete strangers can do a good job of raising a kid. A man married to a kid's mother can do a good job of raising the kid. These can do a better job of raising the kid than the kid's actual father (whether biological or adopted very early). Of course, that's not the way to bet, and counterexamples don't alter the stats (since they, of course, are built into the stats).
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:55 PM
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54. You haven't read the story have you?
It was the 15 year old's biological father. He was married to the 7 year old's biological mother. Hence "step-sister".

So you see, somehow magically despite having a parent with a penis in the house, the 15 year old grew up to pimp her little step-sister. Making it even more absurd than ever to argue "if they'd just have fathers none of this would have happened."
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 08:16 AM
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59. !
:thumbsup:
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 09:53 AM
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61. There is perhaps something to draw here, but we don't have enough information at present
I agree that we don't know much of anything about the men and boys involved. What we do know about the girls seems to indicate they have a mother and a man in the house who is the father of at least the two children younger than the seven year old. The article indicates the girls are step sisters, which I took to mean one is the child of the mother and the other is the child of the father, but perhaps it's a misuse of the term and they mean "half sister", so the mother has a child with one man, a child with a second man, and now she has two children with a third man.

But nevertheless there is some extended family. A grandmother among others was called in for the investigation so there is support which is one key in raising a child successfully (for instance in the case of Obama, where his mother's parents stepped in after each of her divorces/abandonments and helped raise two very successful children).

I think we will have a clearer picture when we know more about the men and boys. What I find disturbing is that this took place amongst a dozen or more men and boys who participated or watched or at least were aware of what was happening and didn't stop it. That is derived from a social environment that the girl has become a part of, and that informed her decision to sell not only herself but also her younger step sister. Parenting, whether it is single parenting or absent fathers or overworked mothers or whatever, may be part of the equation. But if it is (and we don't know that now) it is only one part of it. Obviously something is rotten in the network that these men and boys and 15 year old girl are in. Finding the complicated reasons will have to come when all the evidence is known.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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20. Right, because single mothers teach their sons to hate and disrespect women?
Quite the opposite, actually. :eyes:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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53. No, there's a hell and those girls are living in it. nt
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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10. Dupe (by less than 60 seconds) please combine
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 06:43 PM by Omaha Steve
Source: AP

By ANGELA DELLI SANTI and BETH DEFALCO

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) - Two adults and three juveniles have been charged with gang-raping a 7-year-old girl who was sold by her 15-year-old stepsister during a party at a crime-ridden apartment building, police said Saturday. Details on the arrests were announced at a Saturday night news conference at police headquarters in Trenton, the state's capital city.

The arrested people include a 20-year-old man who already had been charged Friday with having sex with the 15-year-old. The other four are a 19-year-old Trenton man and boys ages 13, 14 and 17. Each was charged with aggravated sexual assault and child endangerment.

Police said further arrests may be made in the case, which shocked residents of the gritty Rowan Towers apartment building.

Authorities say the 7-year-old girl was offered for sale by her stepsister on March 28. They say the stepsister went to a party with some men at Rowan Towers and the younger girl tagged along because she worried about her stepsister's safety.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20100403/D9ERS7V80.html





Resident Rudine Brown stands in front of Rowan Towers apartments Friday, April 2, 2010, in Trenton, N.J., as she says that she is concerned that only one person has been apprehended after the recent gang rape of a 7-year-old girl. Police say a 15-year-old girl went to a party at the building March 28 and offered her younger stepsister's body for sale to a group of grown men. Police arrested a 20-year-old Trenton man Wednesday on allegations of having sex with the 15-year-old, but they believe at least seven other men who were involved are still at large. (AP Photo/Mel Evans)

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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11. What I am about to say is harsh
but anyone male or female that rapes a child has no value in society. NONE!

I don't care how it's done but they should be removed from the general population forever. I am sick of these stories. The Catholic Church even in America gets away with these crimes by hiding behind freedom of religion.

If they go to jail they should never get out, no early parole for good behavior and no rehabilitation and they get out.

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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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14. Not harsh, real
I agree completely. I am sick to death of it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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15. I agree
That is one area where the risk is just too great. I think someone who murders in the heat of the moment has a less likely chance to reoffend than rapists and child molesters. I don't find any particular reason to keep them in some punitive dungeon, but they need to be housed in some kind of location were they can be somewhat productive but also away from doing any harm.
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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18. They will never change
People who commit these unbelievably heinous crimes against nature and truly innocent people will never change, this particular type of crime is known for one thing- An extremely high recdivism rate. They ALL reoffend. In this case I'm in favor of dumping them in a shark tank with no way out.

Save an aquarium a few days worth of feed costs and never have to worry about them doing this to another person again.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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23. I'm with you.
yes, I have a violent side.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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19. I agree, prison for life, no possibility of parole.
especially as the parole system does not seem to be able to deter these offenders. Stick the priests in with them to see if they can pray to get their forgiveness.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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28. but anyone male or female that rapes a child has no value in society.
How about those who sell their little step sisters?


Hope she got a good price!


Wonder where she learned to value money over her sister?

Wonder if she was 7 when she 1st had sex?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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42. Agreed she was part of the crime and must be punished.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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38. Lock them up, throw away the key.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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12. good!
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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13. Disturbing and heart breaking. nt
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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16. Send these monsters to the dungeon until they're wrinkled and immobile.
This story is so much worse than a similar incident within my area...in October 2009 a high school girl was gang-raped outside a school dance at Richmond High School in Richmond, California. Six males are currently held as suspects; they're teens AND some young adults. Sick.

I'm re-reading this...A 7-YEAR-OLD GIRL WHO WAS SOLD BY HER 15-YEAR-OLD STEPSISTER???????? Oh lord...I thought only CSI had these types of stories. The victim needs a lot of counseling in the years to come, and her stepsister needs to be isolated from society for putting an innocent young girl (not to mention HER OWN FLESH AND BLOOD) in harm's way.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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27. Stepsister--not "her own flesh and blood" because there is
no blood relation. Still, she should think of the little girl as her sister, since they are part of the same family now.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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39. I'm thinking that that 15yo is a victim of sexual abuse.
The behavior sure fits. She behaved as she did because she thought that was "normal".
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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17. That is unbelievably sad
For the record, I am all in favor of Siberian-style labor camps for a very limited number of heinous crimes, and this one easily qualifies.

The little girl went with her sister because she was worried about her safety? That "sister" should be found dangling from the nearest light fixture. I can't imagine going even a day after betraying my little sister like that before doing myself in.

What is wrong with people?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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21. Into the wood chipper with the lot of them.
That's my first reaction.
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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22. Exactly! n/t
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lobodons Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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24. Fake outrage
Fake outrage by everybody. The inner city project complex communities are rittled with drugs, sex and crime every fricken day and where is the outrage?? None, notta, no outrage by this country by the disgrace of our inner city communities which EVERY SINGLE FRICKEN DAY has dugs, illegal sex, and whatever crime. Where is the outrage? Where is the push for education? Where is the push for jobs other than pimping and selling drugs? I don't care it they are black, white, green, blue or what ever color, the inner city project communities are crime ridden and the country at large goes on with their business as usual. These kids went to that party just as they did every night. Because they are used to what ever goes mentality, what they did they have no understanding of right or wrong. Just whatever they can do to feel good and make money. No right or wrong. Society is at fault as much as these kids for letting this type of situation take place. Think about it. How much will we have to pay to imprison these people? Take that same money and have a fricken Green Barret stationed on every fricken floor of all these fricken complexes. I tell you one thing. The illegal sex, drugs and other crime would vanish if we did something like this!!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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26. This is not fake outrage
We acknowledge that the poor rural areas and inner cities are riddled with issues. But where does the funding get cut first? Which communities suffer the most because of a downturn in the economy?

Pedophillia and rape of children in this country is unacceptable. And we need to stop pretending these criminals will change and they deserve a second chance in society. This 7 year old child sufferred horribly and you should be outraged too.



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lobodons Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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30. This is not pedophilia!!
This is a community going wild without any check. No parents. No community officials. No community. No country. No nothing. Just them with a juvenile mentality, drugs, sex, and whatever goes.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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34. There were two parents of the 15 year old girl who took the 7 year
old to the party....so you can't play that card. Your refer to the inner city thus implying that it's just black parents that are bad parents? I can site you cases where white parents are bad parents.

You don't want to call this case pedophillia well how about "Child Rape", it doesn't matter what community it happened in but it happened.

At another time we can have a conversation about the false notion that a married man and woman are 100% safe for the kids at home. We can site numerous occasions of fathers raping their daughters, married heterosexual couples throwing their gay kids out, babies neglected, neglecting medical care because of religious reasons and the child dying.....and the list goes on. This is not the topic of the day....

There are many communities that are fracturing across this country and they seem to continually to get worse.

You want to talk about one of the main issues? Birth control! That's right but there is a certain segment of American that does not believe in birth control, don't talk about it in schools, don't talk about it in public and let's pretend that pregancy rates will go down and pretend that abstinence only education will work.

You talk about the blight of the community yet you not acknowledged the rape of the child.



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lobodons Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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35. It's rape all right!!
I'm just saying that if this country is serious about crime in the projects (this is where this situation took place), then it would put a Green Barret on every fricken floor of these complexes. Until we do that, these type of crimes will continue to take place. Anything short of that, we as a society don't care. Just lip service.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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44. I think you are limiting your scope by keying on only the inner cities
these incidents are happening across the country. The young Irish teen that was bullyed until she hung herself, this didn't occur in the inner city. She was raped and harrased until her death. The kids that did it where white and came from two parent homes. You cannot pick and choose which segments of society you think needs fixing. All of them need fixing.



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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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47. Fake perhaps not. Fashionable and false most certainly.
The child almost certainly did suffer horribly, and people should be properly outraged at such acts.

But where is your outrage over being people forced to work 16 hours a day just to earn a subsistence wage?

Where is your outrage at a situation where city officials are forced to not condemn buildings (or issue orders to make good) because they know that to do so would force the residents out onto the street?

Where is your outrage at a situation where children ARE sold to cover the rent?

Where is your outrage, when it makes perfect rational sense to join a street gang and prey on your own people (including pimping your sisters), because that offers them the best (and damned close to only) chance of getting ahead in the world?


Seven year old children are not casually gang raped like this in a sane healthy society. It takes a total breakdown of the social fabric for this sort of thing to happen. It takes a society that doesn't give a flying fuck for the living conditions of niggers, spics, slopes, gooks, pakis, and other worthless trash, so long as those that matter have theirs.

* Yup spelled in full without sanitising stars, because self censorship does not alter the thinking of those that made America what it is today.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 PM
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29. inner city communities which EVERY SINGLE FRICKEN DAY has dugs, illegal sex, and whatever crime.
Thank goodness NONE of that happens in nice rich suburban households!


:eyes:
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lobodons Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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32. I didn't say that
I commented on this story. When a story comes out regarding nice rich suburban communities, I will comment on them.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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33. I'm sure there are plenty of people living in that housing project who know...
that it's wrong to rape a seven year old.

And, whatever the price to keep those rapists away from any future victims IS WORTH THE MONEY.
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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48. Where is the outrage?
It's right here.. and you decided to call it fake outrage. jackass.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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50. Fake outrage?
Excuse me? Gang rape of a 7 year old provokes very real outrage.

You make some valid points otherwise, but the outrage is real.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 12:10 AM
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55. A gang raping of a 7yr tends to be more looked down upon than most other crimes...
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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37. Throw the book at these fuckers!
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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43. So it was a coincidence they ended up at a party where two minors were being gang-raped?
I guess it means a lot to the 7 year old that was raped that it wasn't premeditated.

BTW... if you're the fourth or fifth person to gang-rape a second grader... you thought about it. Nobody walks down the street to a party and oops! falls into a seven year old's vagina.

They need the biggest goddamn book they can find, not just for the people who did it but for the people who watched, covered it up and/or didn't report it.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 04:12 AM
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57. if you agreed to pay for it and did it you fucking thought about it
And it's not anything that requires any thinking about. Since when does rape not equal rape just because it wasn't planned out beforehand??? Since when is raping anyone excused because it wasn't contemplated beforehand??? The very moment they forced themselves on that poor CHILD it was RAPE and it makes no damn difference whether they thought about it beforehand (which they absolutely did since they agreed to pay for it beforehand), or were shitfaced drunk or on drugs... they fucking raped a 7 year old CHILD.



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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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45. Are you INSANE!?!
:puke:
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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46. 5 years for raping a 7-year-old?
really?
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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49. Are you kidding me?
Sorry, anyone who farks a 7 year old goes for life.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 12:14 AM
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56. Sorry, if you can't see that raping a 7 year old is wrong
then you deserve to have several books to be thrown at you... Not just any old Harry Potter book either, but I mean big thick fuckers. Like dictionaries and thesauruses. But seriously, does it matter if they planned it or not? Let me ask you this, how is this 7 year old girl any better off then a 7 year old girl who was stalked and preyed on by "professional" fucktard perverts?
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 04:18 AM
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58. WTF!!!!!
The very moment they forced themselves on that child they raped her! It doesn't matter if they contemplated it beforehand - which they absolutely did since they agreed to pay for it - nor does it matter if they were drunk or on drugs or whatever disgusting excuse you want to come up with. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR MIND????

My God, you are SICK!


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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:46 PM
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51. It was probably over Crack Cocaine
Friends of mine in the "hood', old timers that is, say that the Crack Cocaine epidemic has reduced the morality of the junkies much lower even than what heroin did back in the sixties and seventies.

My buddy Louie claims that he never met heroin junkie women willing to sell their daughters, but that during the Crack Cocaine crisis this has become common.

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