9 Hutaree members face federal charges of conspiracy, attempting to use weapons of mass destruction

[kpete]

Source: Ann Arbor News

9 Hutaree members face federal charges of conspiracy, attempting to use weapons of mass destruction

Nine members of Hutaree - described by authorities as an anti-government extremist organization - have been indicted on federal charges of attempting to use weapons of mass destruction.

At least one member of the group lives in Washtenaw County, and the indictment charges that group members trained in Lenawee County as they "conspired to levy war against the United States."

The indictments were released this morning, two days after numerous raids in southeast Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. Among those charged are six Michigan residents, two Ohio residents and one Indiana resident.
The federal indictment charges that the leader of Hutaree, David Brian Stone (known as RD), was plotting to kill an unspecified member of law enforcement. It says the plan was to kill an officer and then attack law enforcement vehicles with improvised explosive devices when officers gathered for that officer's funeral.

Read more: http://www.annarbor.com/news/9-hutaree-members-face-federal-charges-of-conspiracy-attempting-to-use-weapons-of-mass-destruction/

[Turbineguy]

1. More anti-Christian persecution!

[DeSwiss]

10. Yeah, ain't it wonderful!!!!

- We still got a long way to go though.......

K&R

Religious beliefs and practices:
Belief in God or Universal Spirit

http://religions.pewforum.org/maps#">link

[No Elephants]

67. "Belief in God or a Universal Spirit" does not =Christianity.

Unless Obi Wan Kenobee, Yoda, Mathatma Ghandi and Ben Gurion were Christians.

[D-Lee]

38. look at http://hutaree.com for info. nt

[pinboy3niner]

2. So THAT'S where the WMD's were!

I always wondr'd . . .

[Gman2]

3. But the killing will stop, just as soon as we have a solid white majority again.

[tom_paine]

39. The Tea Party will go back to hoping to be employed as "Relocation" Camp Guards

For Lib'ruls, Ay-rabs, and other Enemies of the State.

[No Elephants]

68. More like a neo theo majority for the first time since the Pilgrims.

[thereismore]

4. They were just exercising their religious and 2nd amendment rights!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :hide:

[defendandprotect]

14. Every American has the right to be fully "armed" . . .!!!

GOP/NRA's violent America -- works for them!

:nuke:

[Warren Stupidity]

5. "Not all Christians are domestic terrorists...

but so far all domestic terrorists are Christians."

Soon to be heard on Fairly Imbalanced False Noise.

[leftynyc]

9. Not true

How about the soldier at Ft. Hood? Or the guy who rammed his car into a crowd in North or South Carolina because he was pissed about the killing of Muslims? All religions have their crazy.

[Warren Stupidity]

40. a) it was a joke

b) if it is a muslim perp it is not domestic terrorism, going by the current media practices.

The reference is to the rightwing canard that "Not all muslims are terrorists" (immunity from racism charge) "but so far all terrorists are muslim" (flat out lie.)

I thought that was obvious. A joke explained is a failed joke.

[dflprincess]

6. Shouldn't they be tried as enemy combants in military tribunals?

Surely, the Constitutional protections of the government they hate so much should not be applied to them. :sarcasm"

[KansDem]

87. Yeah! They're terrorists. Why aren't they at GitMo being waterboarded?

There might be a ticking timebomb somewhere...

[kestrel91316]

7. "Levying war against the United States". Hmmmm. Isn't that otherwise known as

SEDITION? And if done in time of war, isn't it a capital offense??

Dumbasses took a baseball bat to the WRONG nest of hornets, lol. They are so fucked.

[pasto76]

11. the indictment includes "seditious acts" - wondering what WMD

seriously messed up people. All because we elected a black man.

[EFerrari]

15. I read they were building some kind of pipe bomb and distributing them.

But, that was an early report and sometimes those are wrong.

[Mike K]

45. So true.

I'm drawing no conclusions based on what has been reported thus far, mainly because of what happened at Waco in 1993. There we saw lies upon lies beginning with a falsified warrant affidavit and ending with the wanton slaughter of 21 children, some as young as two, by gas and fire.

So let's wait until we've heard both sides of this story before deciding anything.

[KittyWampus]

47. "wanton slaughter"? It's too bad Bush's Feds didn't pick up Koresh on the street

It would have avoided the whole mess.

Wonder why Bush's Feds didn't do that. It would have been so much easier and safer.

Almost as if they wanted to leave Clinton with an impossible mess.

[pipoman]

84. Clinton's feds had the same option to

pick him up on the street and didn't do it...you do know that Clinton took office 1-20-03 and the siege began 2-28-03?

[MadMaddie]

50. pipe bomb(s)

they were selling them and distributing them across state lines.

[No Elephants]

69. I don't think it's that simple. There are strong anti-Democratic and anti-government elements.

I won't say anti-left because I don't think this country has much of a left anymore.

Yes, race is in there as well, but the "black vote" traditionally goes Democratic (or stays home) a hell of a lot more than it goes Republican--at least since 1964. So, African Americans, Democrats, "big government" and taxes all get mashed up together, with fury at one of those fueling fury at the others. And, if we can add a God element, so much the better. It's so much harder to argue with what God wants you to do than it is to argue with what some nutcake wants you to do.

So, you hit the bonanza of fury when you have a Democratic, African American President who has done a lot of spending programs, making government even bigger (esp. via so-called health care reform) and probably leading to more taxes in the future. And, if we also make him the anti-Christ.....

[ConcernedCanuk]

8. Interesting, - I was just reading a thread on an old movie - called "Hatari"

.
.
.

Hatari means "danger" in Swahili

hmmmm

:freak:

[Paladin]

16. Yeah, I Bet All Those Militia Guys Are BIG "Hatari" Fans.

John Wayne and an all-white cast, doing their bad-ass thing in the wilds of Africa, with native tribesmen barely visible in the distant background, throughout. Just the way these militia jerkoffs want it.......

[peacetalksforall]

12. "planned a covert reconnaissance operation for April,..."

"planned a covert reconnaissance operation for April, which had the potential of placing an unsuspecting member at risk."

Great Christians! Kill their own. SACRIFICE their own? I thought Christians disapproved of sacrifices and sacrificial acts except when it comes to impregnating.

Do you think there are any Black-Americans in this militia consortium?

Do you think that the policeman/woman they were going to kill might be a Black-American and the funeral would have been attended mostly by Black-American policemen/women?

[Pathwalker]

18. When a cop is killed in MI. police depts. from all over the state send

a fellow officer to the funeral to represent their solidarity, along with the county sheriff depts. and the State Police, as well. There are usually hundreds, if not a thousand plus police officers at these funerals. So, no, they would not all be African-Americans. They were looking for a bloodbath, since the streets along the procession are always closed down, too. They wanted a bloodbath of police.

[peacetalksforall]

22. That makes it quite a bit worse. I think that what you said should be sent

to the press. I had no idea that they honored their own like this. Others might not either

I can't get over the idea that their hatred for government means that they are targeting police. Something else runs deeper than hate for government.

Now that I think about it - their first encounter will be with police, if they can kill enough, they can progress further. Ah, but what about the military. They are government.

Collective death wishes.

Those of us here who are unhappy with the government selectively choose the issue and the department, then use words and educating others about the issues to help them see the circumstances of the position.

So, for the militia, are guns substitutes for words, because they prefer sneaking up and being master of their equipment?

I never paid much attention to the rumors of the militia. Now, it's becoming serious and psychologically curious.

[Pathwalker]

26. David Schuster/ Pete Williams are reporting it right now. Targeting the funeral.

of the cop they killed. Militias are all over Michigan, not just one area of it. But this idea of specifically targeting a funeral would ensure a bloodbath, which is what concerns me the most. I hope the press will cover this angle more thoroughly, although...trusting the press is not my strong suit... it's on CNN now.

[anigbrowl]

31. I think that's pretty much common knowledge

No offense, but if you were not aware that police officers tend to show up en masse at police funerals I think you're out of the loop - it's something regularly reported in the news, portrayed in movies etc.

[vduhr]

41. When a police officer that my son knew was killed....

They held the memorial at the local High School stadium. Along with the public that attended, police officers from all over the San Francisco Bay Area were there. Yes, they absolutely do honor their own.

As for this militia group targeting police, I thought that was strange. So the Federal Government is not their only target? It's every type of government - police work on the State and City level too. And without the police, who controls the lawless? They would? So then we would have a militia as our government where they make up the laws according to their wants or beliefs (i.e. religion)? It boggles the mind.

[MadMaddie]

51. Agreed! The uniform is what is represented not race.

[yellerpup]

21. How very Al-Qaida of them...

placing their unsuspecting members at risk. No different from any other terrorists. Put 'em away.

[RamboLiberal]

24. There would be police officers of all races attending the funeral

They were targeting all LEOs not just minority officers.

Officers will come from all over the state and country, even international to attend the funeral of a brother/sister officer killed in the line of duty. In my area of Pittsburgh we had 15,000 police officers last year attend the funeral of 3 officers killed in the line of duty. BTW, the killer was a RW somewhat extremist type who posted about Glenn Beck and thought Obama was going to take his guns away.

These funerals are extremely large with hundreds even into the thousands of officers attending.

[No Elephants]

70. Murder is un-Christian, whether it is a member of your own group or not.

Sparing only members of your own group maybe even more un-Christian than murder, if such a thing is possible.

[havocmom]

13. WMD? Wouldn't that make them Terrorists? Or at least conspiring to commit terrorism?

Um, aren't there speciallaws for that? Isn't that what the GOP and wingers wanted?

[RamboLiberal]

17. Christian Militia Raid: Family of Four Allegedly Behind Plot to Ambush Police

A family of four was behind an anti-government militiaplot to kill law enforcement officers with improvised explosive devices and projectiles before being foiled by an FBI raid Sunday that netted nine members of a Christian extremist group, federal authorities said today.

David Brian Stone, 45, his wife, Tina Stone, 44, and David Stone's two adult sons allegedly conspired with five other members of the fringe Christian militia group called the Hutaree to kill a Michigan law enforcement officer and then ambush the officer's colleagues who would have gathered for the funeral, according to court documents.

Stone's eldest son, Joshua Matthew Stone, 21, is still on the loose but the other eight -- David and Tina Stone of Clayton Mich., David Brian Stone Jr., 19, of Adrian, Mich., Joshua Clough, 28, of Blissfield, Mich., Michael Meeks, 40, of Manchester, Mich., Thomas Piatek, 46, of Whiting, Ind., Krisopher Sickles, 27, of Sandusky, Ohio and Jacob Ward, 33, of Huron, Ohio -- are in custody.

-----

In June 2009, authorities allege, Stone and youngest son David Stone Jr. began teaching other Hutaree how to make and use the explosives. They were to have been used against law enforcement officials as they drove in the funeral procession for the first officer they intended to kill as bait.

The first alleged target was not named. Among their plans for the first murder, according to court documents, was to kill the officer at a traffic stop, kill the officer and his or her family at home or make a phony 911 call to lure the officer into a trap.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/TheLaw/michigan-christian-militia-hutaree-targeted-law-enforcement/story?id=10228716

[Supersedeas]

20. admirers of Tim McVeigh?

[Turborama]

19. These "Patriots" could have their citizenship revoked

(CNN) -- Nine people federal prosecutors say belong to a "Christian warrior" militia were accused Monday of plotting to kill a Michigan law enforcement officer and then attack other police at the funeral.

A federal grand jury in Detroit, Michigan, indicted six Michigan residents, two Ohioans and an Indianan on charges of seditious conspiracy, attempted use of weapons of mass destruction, teaching the use of explosive materials and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence, U.S. Attorney Barbara L. McQuade and Andrew Arena, FBI special agent in charge, announced.

The five-count indictment unsealed Monday charges that since August 2008, the defendants, acting as a Lenawee County, Michigan, militia group called the Hutaree, conspired to oppose by force the authority of the U.S. government.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/29/stone.pdf">Read the indictment (PDF)

Attorney General Eric Holder called it "an insidious plan by anti-government extremists."

=snip=

The Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama-based nonprofit organization that monitors hate groups and other fringe organizations, lists the Hutaree as a "Patriot" group militia. "Generally, Patriot groups define themselves as opposed to the 'New World Order,' engage in groundless conspiracy theorizing or advocate or adhere to extreme anti-government doctrines," the Southern Poverty Law Center said in a report, "http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/spring/rage-on-the-right">Rage on the Right: The Year in Hate and Extremism."

Full article: http://us.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/29/michigan.arrests/index.html?hpt=T1

If found guilty of this count (Count 1) they can have their citizenship revoked, too: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00002384----000-.html">§ 2384. Seditious conspiracy

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/8/12/III/III/1481">8 U.S.C. § 1481 : US Code - Section 1481: Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions

=snip=

(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by
force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States,
violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of
section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in
violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384
of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down,
or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to
levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a
court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.

Also posted in GD: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8044699

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[fatbuckel]

23. Hatari means "danger" in Swahili who are traditionally black...

[slackmaster]

25. Yesterday's IED is today's WMD

At least in Michigan.

(Several states have definitions of WMD that have nothing to do with traditional nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons.)

[Tx4obama]

30. not a good thing

If the media starts reporting IEDs as WMD,
then it is going to be easier for Bush/Cheney etc. to rewrite their past history.
People need to stop calling IEDs and pipe bombs WMDs.
And if the definition of WMD ends up including IEDs & pipe bombs then it could be said that ALL countries in the world posses them and if a republican gets back in to the Oval again - well you see where that could go!
Don't like the way this is looking ;(

[bergie321]

33. I think that's the point

Any kid with a baseball bat now has a WMD. The Iraq war was now a good thing....:sarcasm:

[superconnected]

27. 9 militia members charged in police-killing plot

Source: AP

DETROIT – Nine suspects tied to a Christian militia that was preparing for the Antichrist were charged with conspiring to kill police officers, then attack a funeral using homemade bombs in the hopes of killing more law enforcement personnel, federal prosecutors said Monday.

The Michigan-based group, called Hutaree, planned to use the attack on police as a catalyst for a larger uprising against the government, according to newly unsealed court papers. U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade said agents moved on the group because its members were planning a violent mission sometime in April.

Members of the group, including its leader, David Brian Stone, also known as "Captain Hutaree," were charged following FBI raids over the weekend on locations in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. Seven people were arraigned in Detroit on Monday, and another one of Stone's sons, Joshua, is being sought.

Stone's ex-wife, Donna Stone, told The Associated Press before the arraignments that her former husband was to blame for pulling her son into the movement. She said David Brian Stone legally adopted her son, David Brian Stone Jr., who is among those indicted.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100329/ap_on_re_us/us_fbi_raids

[superconnected]

28. Ah, now I see it's a dupe. Please delete - EOM.

[RamboLiberal]

29. CNN report suggests Antichrist-fearing militia group hosted Tea Party

CNN report suggests militia group linked to Tea Party

During a report about the arrests of militia members, CNN showed the web page of one group advertising a tea party.

This video is from CNN's Newsroom, broadcast March 29, 2010.

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0329/hutaree-militia-video/

[old mark]

37. They had an ad for a date in April in which they sponsored a

"Family picnic and tea party", with open carry of firearms and shooting events. Their site states that it has now been cancelled.

mark

[RamboLiberal]

32. What a pasty faced bunch of winners!

:sarcasm:

[livetohike]

35. Oh my.....

poor deluded fools. I wonder if they even can comprehend the trouble they are in.

[Doctor_J]

43. Hate radio and the GOP Congress will be on their side

"Well, this is what happens when health care is given to everyone"

[Frank Cannon]

71. There's your "master race" right there, folks.

What a bunch of fucking gorillas.

[dflprincess]

34. So they all really hate the government but they've all requested public defenders

Somehow, I'm not surpised.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/89383482.html?page=2&c=y

The charges against the eight include seditious conspiracy, possessing a firearm during a crime of violence, teaching the use of explosives, and attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction — homemade bombs. All seven defendants in court on Monday requested to be represented by the federal defender's office, and a bond hearing is set for Wednesday.

[KittyWampus]

48. thanks for pointing that out. I really wish you'd give that nugget it's own thread.

[FarCenter]

36. It is sort of ironic that they would choose a name similar to Hutterite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutterite

"A basic tenet of Hutterian society has always been absolute pacifism, forbidding its members from taking part in military activities, taking orders, wearing a formal uniform (such as a soldier's or a police officer's) or contributing to war taxes."

[slackmaster]

42. Bunch of stupid white people plotting to kill cops = militia

Bunch of stupid black or Hispanic people plotting to kill cops = street gang

http://www.investigativevoice.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=417:gang-warfare&catid=25:the-project&Itemid=44

[underpants]

44. Settling up booby traps...gee where have I heard of that before?

[nealmhughes]

46. Two of them look seriously on the left hand side of the Bell Curve in IQ and

freakishly like "Curly" Howard (Horowitz)of the Three Stooges (Moe and Shemp's baby brother, known as "Babe by the brothers).

[and-justice-for-all]

49. I am watching PBS news hour on this now...

those people are bait shit insane.

But then I guess if your preparing to fight a fictions character called the anti-christ... :crazy:

[BeatleBoot]

52. Indictment: Hutaree militia planned to kill law officer, attack the funeral procession

Source: The Detroit News

Detroit -- Nine members of a Lenawee County-based militia group were planning to "levy war" against the United States and "oppose by force" the nation's government, according to an indictment unsealed this morning in U.S. District Court in Detroit.

Seven of the defendants of the "Hutaree" militia appeared briefly this morning in U.S. District Court in Detroit and were ordered held without bond until Wednesday, when bond hearings will be held. Assistant U.S. Attorney Ronald Waterstreet said he wants all the defendants held pending trial.

The five-count indictment alleges that between August 2008 and the present, the defendants were trying to use bombs and other weapons to oppose the U.S. government.

They had plans to kill a local law enforcement official and, once officers from across the country came to the funeral, to attack the funeral procession, the indictment alleges.

<more at link>







Read more: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100329/METRO/3290381/Indictment--Hutaree-militia-planned-to-kill-law-officer--attack-the-funeral-procession

[BeyondGeography]

53. Nice

:wtf:

[teknomanzer]

54. I guess that Homeland Security report was not a mistatement after all.

I don't believe for a second that these dimwit twinkie eating bastards could overthrow the government, but I cannot turn a blind eye to the damage these howling gorillas from "Planet of the Apes" can and will do to our country and its citizens.

[tomm2thumbs]

55. damaged goods...

it was all so much fun until the 'getting caught' part came along - yeah, that was the buzz kill alright

[704wipes]

56. ...and.... drum roll -- they all want a PUBLIC Defender !!

I say the guy with a mullet should fry just for having a mullet.
There is no excuse for that.
He must have been going to militia meetings for all the chicks he could pick up there.

[pipoman]

57. Let me get this right..

Federal and state law enforcement made a big secret task force raid including aircraft and multiple agencies to snag these idiots? Why don't I remember such a raid of the anti-abortion loonies? Oh, that's right, they were only plotting to bomb and kill health care workers, not police....that couldn't have anything to do with the difference could it?

[Mike K]

58. So far I haven't seen or heard evidence of anything.

What I've heard is these screwballs have been "discussing" various seditious scenarios while the word "plan" is casually inserted here and there by the tv talkers. But so far nothing in the way of concrete evidence has been mentioned. While footage of them conducting paramilitary training exercises in the woods will have a convincing propaganda effect on the average soccer mom and Dudley Do-right, unless they are deploying automatic weapons and explosives there is nothing illegal about what they're doing and the same thing goes on in many other places in Michigan and in many other states.

I'm hung up on this "discussion" theme because the U.S. Department of Defense routinely discusses the prospective invasion of and war with just about every other significant nation on Earth, but there is no concrete plan to carry out the substance of these discussions. A group of participants in this forum could gather over coffee and discuss robbing a bank, the appeal of it, the risks, the potential benefits, etc., but until we actually demonstrate an intention to do it we've broken no laws.

If what is being said about their religious fanaticism and political extremism is true, they are obviously a bunch of crazies who inhabit a fantasy world. So until I see or hear some convincing evidence that these so-called militiamen were conspiring to actually carry out what they are accused of plotting, I believe they are candidates for six month Thorazine regimens but nothing more.

The reason for my skepticism is recollections of the Waco Massacre. I remember the progression of lies attending that outrageous exercise of federal power and I'm not falling for it again.

[geek tragedy]

59. "Waco Massacre?"

Free Republic is over that way, dearest.

[Mike K]

61. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Paladin]

88. I've Got A Feeling You'll Get The Education You Need. (n/t)

[drmjg]

64. Let's not jump to too many conclusions either way

Feel free to be skeptical all you want. But so far, that fact that we as the public have not seen all of the evidence is norma in criminal proceedings. And, given the nature of this work, any fairly competent lawyer will go to a Habeas Corpus motion.

Having served as foreman on grand juries, there must have been enough evidence for this type of arrest to have been made and enough evidence to hold. An arrest of this type and at this level would have to pass a grand jury and so the police must have felt the have enough to pass that standard.

Now, you are correct that the next level requires a greater level of evidence than required for grand jury and arrest. That is what a trial is for and i this country the burden will be on proving guilt.

Just because they have not gone public with that evidence at this time should not mean anything more than they have to present it at trial. I strongly suspect this group had gone beyond simple wacko chat to have dates and place in mind. But, that is the true glory of a justice system that requires evidence and such.

Or, we could just treat them like the detainees at Gitmo. Rumor, hearsay and whisper is good enough to hold them until we decide to maybe hold a trial and present what might pass as evidence.

Or,would you have rather that the police waited until AFTER their attack to feel they had enough to act. Free speech is one thing I strongly believe in. But free speech does NOT allow it to get to the point up to the moment before killing is to occur. Assault is NOT battery; assault is no longer free speech

[Mike K]

60. Are you taking for granted that all of this is true?

[drmjg]

65. Not at all

You seem to be sure it is NOT true.

But, that is what the trial will be for.

So far, a judge was convinced an arrest was tin order (Warrant). Then basic evidence to go to trial is presented to a grand jury. Then a trial. Only AFTER the trial will we know if the evidence was true and the arrest proper.

[chollybocker]

62. Interesting how the *T* word is scrubbed from all these msm articles.

They're really going out of their way to avoid using the word 'terrorist,' which they think is reserved for foreigners. Maddening. :(

[No Elephants]

72. Well, foreigners and members of the left. (Ayers, for example). I think the left would do well

to call a crime and sedition what they are and leave the rest to those at Palin's level. If the "terrorism" charge gets overused against anyone, my guess we will be the victims of the overuse.

[Hawkeye-X]

63. Fuck the trial, hang them high, in public gallows for all to see.

Force all militia to witness them when they attempt to commit treason and sedition.

Less attempt to muddy the gene pool for these idiots.

Actually, revoke their citizenship (the government can do that) and deport them to Somalia where they can fall in love with no government.

Hawkeye-X

[No Elephants]

66. Simma down, now. We still have something of the Constitution and I'd like to keep it.

[Ichingcarpenter]

73. Another member of Christian militia Hutaree arrested (9)

Source: LA Times

Reporting from Atlanta - Federal officials in Michigan have arrested a ninth member of the Hutaree, the Christian anti-government militia charged with plotting to use "weapons of mass destruction" in an attack on police.

The suspect, Joshua Matthew Stone of Clayton, Mich., surrendered to federal agents in nearby Hillsdale County, in the southern part of the state, Gina Balaya, a spokeswoman with the U.S. attorney's office in Detroit, said Tuesday.

Other members of Stone's family were already in custody -- brother David Brian Stone Jr., 19; father David Brian Stone, 45; and Tina Mae Stone, 44, David Sr.'s wife.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-militia31-2010mar31,0,451996.story

[laststeamtrain]

74. Everyday people.

"Other members of Stone's family were already in custody -- brother David Brian Stone Jr., 19; father David Brian Stone, 45; and Tina Mae Stone, 44, David Sr.'s wife."

[NecklyTyler]

75. It is always a good day when the Christian right wing meets the rule of law

[Dogtown]

76. An apologist will pop up any minute now

to explain to us these aren't the "real" Christians...


:patriot:

[Ichingcarpenter]

77. ....

Come feel the bone-crushing, tire-popping, monster truck power of the everlastin' salvation of the lord, brother.

[cosmicone]

78. LMAO -- is this for real or photoshopped? n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

79. Real

I think its from out of the Florida Panhandle


I found it amusing for some reason

[cosmicone]

86. It really cracked me up n/t

[jberryhill]

83. HolyRollerMonsterTruck.com

No, they aren't kidding....


http://www.holyrollermonstertruck.com/gallery.html

[Nevernose]

82. Growing up in small town East Texas I attended

Karate for Christ, the pinnacle of the show being a man, imbued with "the power of the LORD," smashing an ice block in two. See, you can't use karate to break ice if you don't have Jesus on your side.

Even more entertaining was Christian Wrestling, in which a bunch of attractive, semi-nude men coat their bodies in oil and then rub against one another, then hug and pray, and condemn gays to hell. They don't need Jesus, they need a therapist.

The only thing really scary was that the audience couldn't see the irony. I was 12 and appreciated the absurdity.

[CLANG]

80. Stone Family, meet the Phelps Family

[Ian David]

81. ...

[AlphaCentauri]

85. Thanks God nobody trained these folks to fight the Soviets

other wise this would be chaos