Joe Biden Draws First Blood On Dick Cheney

[sledgehammer]

Source: HuffingtonPost

In a much-anticipated Sunday showdown between Vice President Joe Biden and his predecessor Dick Cheney, Biden has drawn first blood.

Asked to respond to a range of harsh attacks on the Obama administration leveled by Cheney, Biden first gathered himself. "Let me choose my words carefully here," he told David Gregory in a pre-taped interview for Sunday's "Meet the Press."

Then Biden let loose with several minutes of his most pointed criticism of Cheney since the 2008 presidential campaign, when Biden claimed that Cheney had "done more harm than any other single elected official in memory in terms of shredding the Constitution."

Speaking to Gregory, Biden charged at least four times that Cheney was "rewrit history" with his recent attacks, and declared that President Obama has amassed a success rate in countering terrorism that "exceeds anything that occurred in the last Administration."

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Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/14/joe-biden-dick-cheney-meet-press_n_461717.html

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Video and transcript included in link. Great job by Biden! We need more of this.

[FrenchieCat]

1. Love Joe Biden!

Was a great choice!

and why, but oh why would anyone have Dick Cheney on television on Valentine's Day?

I can't even begin to understand that.

[24601]

20. Ah - just remember the famous words ot Al Capone's gang in

1929..."Here's your fucking Valentines Day."

[wial]

27. brilliant!

someone should do a movie about 1920s gangsters in which they all look like the evil clowns from the Bush administration like Cheney, Fox anchors et al. Just saw Watchmen for the first time, which was a hugely ambitious total failure of a movie, but loved how they redid the 70s/80s in detail -- a lot of potential in that approach.

[The Wizard]

48. For the Bush cartel

"Judgment at Nuremberg" comes to mind.

[No Elephants]

101. Fugeddaboudit. We're looking forward, not back.

[goclark]

108. Oh what a happy day that would be!

[NW_Cowboy]

152. What Cheney needs to realize is that if Americans had wanted a continuation of the Booosh/Cheney

policies they would have elected McCain/Palin... But they DIDN'T!! ... So maybe Cheney should just STFU and ride off into the sunset!

[Scairp]

154. Isn't this what he was hired for?

About fucking time.

[winyanstaz]

2. wow...now I am liking Joe Biden more :)

[Sherman A1]

3. Love this but those on the Right that support the likes of the Esteemed Mr. Cheney

Won't understand Joe's responses, because they simply do not understand facts.

[Divine Discontent]

4. yes, I thought of sending this to the 3 people I know closely who are repubs, but I realize they

won't watch it... He's too factual. They prefer hyperbole and false bravado. Oh and flag waving and lots of saying how God wants us to kill the enemy... God help 'em. Some people just hate facts.

[TheEuclideanOne]

25. That may be true, but

I am happy to seeing the administration going on the attack for a change. Up to now, Cheney would drop some line of treasonous bullshit and the administration would remain quiet until it boiled over into some clear talking points for the Republicans. At that point it was too late to really make a difference. Maybe now they will be more aggressive about it and put them on the defensive.

[gateley]

79. Joe has been shredding Cheney (and Bush) all along -- long before there

was an Obama administration.

[Champion Jack]

38. Don't understand facts? Hell they don't understand words with more than 2 syllables

[tsstranger]

41. Just wait

FAUX NotNews and the AM hate radio clowns will tell their idiot listeners that ChickenCheney mopped the floor with Biden.

[AlbertCat]

87. but those on the Right that support the likes of the Esteemed Mr. Cheney

What...that 19%.....17%? Oh let 'em!

The amazing and disheartening thing is we will hear from and about that tiny 19% for hours on end on news and commentary TV, as if they were some kind of majority we couldn't do without. They aren't.

[No Elephants]

102. I think Cheney's approval rating was about 9% before he left office. Has it skyrocketed to 19%?

Caution. Things in the rear view mirror may look at least twice as good as they really were.

[Metta]

5. Biden doesn't seem afraid to talk truth to power. Would that Obama would do the same.

But, O's weak and afraid to rock the boat so the task gets lost and people get hurt.

[Bicoastal]

9. Pfft. I think Biden's doing exactly what a VP needs to do...

...while Obama is doing exactly what a President needs to do.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

34. Exactly...

A President doesn't stoop to bicker with a washed-up hack like Dick Cheney. The VP is supposed to be the attack dog, and Joe is doing (magnificently, I might add) what VP's are supposed to do. Attack the other guys and let the President be above the mud wrestling.

[blondeatlast]

47. Exactly. nt

[gateley]

81. +1 -- I just wish they'd give Biden more free rein. nt

[JackRiddler]

124. "What a President needs to do"?

Capitulate to the banks and the health insurance lobby? Accept the war escalation plans already drawn up for you when you arrived? Help the Republicans back up from their weakest position ever?

[woo me with science]

13. Biden is the power now. nt

[JNelson6563]

18. I see you've never been involved in politics

Here's how it works: The person at the top should remain above reproach as much as possible. It falls to those around them to do the dirty work. I know, I was in the game and that's how it is played.

Always sad to see armchair warriors who have never played the game make the usual erroneous criticisms.

Julie

[Robb]

35. Heh. Ooookay.

:rofl:

[Jennicut]

37. VP's are supposed to do the dirty work and be attack dogs.

And Joe is doing a great job attacking Cheney's BS.

[stevenleser]

55. Yep. Bizarre that some here dont seem to know that. n/t

[Cha]

122. Sorry, to see that you are misinformed..

President Obama is not "weak" as you anonymously accuse from your keyboard.

[Metta]

126. Then why has he been missing in action on health reform until just recently?

And, why did he meet *in secret* with the pharma industry and cut a sweetheart deal with them and the insurance industry? And why did he appoint someone from Monsanto to oversee the USDA? And why did he reappoint Bush's onerous drug lackey to oversee the DEA? Instead of being his own man. Not even mentioning Summers, Geithner and Bernake who are really criminals. Just asking.

[Cha]

127. He didn't meet in secret..you just fell for it.

And, he hasn't been "missing in action"..that's your belief from whatever you read..it does not make it so.

President Obama is out there doing the real work and what are you doing to help?

[Metta]

130. If he isn't missing, why won't he meet with single payer advocates? ... an industry giveaway.

And why has he appointed so many lobbyists and Bush leftovers?

[Cha]

131. Because he's a pragmatist and he didn't

campaign on that. I'm sorry that you're not getting what you want but I'm looking at the big picture for our country and so is the President.

[Metta]

144. Go well and be well.

:hi:

[kurtzapril4]

128. I consider Obama weak.

I expected him to come out swinging. That's what I voted for. He didn't. He's all tied up in that bi-partisanship BS, and he needs to get over it. Real quick. I predict a blood-bath in '10 for the Democrats unless the Dems grow a spine.

[Cha]

129. Yeah, there's a few people who don't

really know what's going on but that doesn't stop their cheap shots.

[AzNick]

6. You need to call the Republicans anti-American

If you oppose and try to weaken an administration fighting the enemy, then you are anti-American.

Which is what they kept telling us when they were in power.

Hammer this message.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

7. LOVE HIM!! With his FINE self!! n/t

[Bravo Zulu]

8. aliens don't have blood!

[NoQuarter]

10. You do have a point there. -eom

[BlueMTexpat]

11. Bravo for Joe!

But why aren't he and his boss doing what should be done? Holding Cheney to account for his treasonous (if he "has done more harm than any other single elected official in memory" to shred the Constitution") and war criminal behavior?
Let US not also rewrite history by letting the Bush-Cheney crimes slide. Merely engaging in a war of words on the Sunday talk show circuit just isn't enough.

**********
Please don't get me wrong ... I am a staunch supporter of Obama and Biden both. I didn't expect them to be perfect; they are, after all, human, even if both are exceptional humans. And it is so wonderful to have individuals in those offices whom I can truly admire.
But the two areas where I have been most disappointed so far are in: a) holding Bush-era criminals to account for their actions: we have a global responsibility for this if the international conventions we have signed and the precedents that we ourselves have set mean anything at all; and b) not leading more to enact meaningful health care reform, specifically, not even listening to single payer advocates.
It's still not too late to turn either of those disappointments around. But time IS a-passing.

[Mike K]

109. Exactly!

"But why aren't he and his boss doing what should be done? Holding Cheney to account for his treasonous (if he "has done more harm than any other single elected official in memory" to shred the Constitution") and war criminal behavior?

Let US not also rewrite history by letting the Bush-Cheney crimes slide. Merely engaging in a war of words on the Sunday talk show circuit just isn't enough."

You are so right. I've come to regard this verbal bravado as the kind of "shit-talking" that accompanies professional wrestling matches. It occurs strictly for effect, is part of the act, and absolutely nothing real will come of it because, as my profane Dutch granny used to say, "They all shit in and eat from the same pot!"

But is is surprising to me how many well-meaning and intelligent Progressives simply cannot recognize and accept that it is part of the act and nothing more. They don't understand that the game has gone on for so long that until they see the Bush conspirators defending themselves in criminal courts all the talk is part of the act. It is precisely analogous to professional wrestling.

[steven johnson]

12. Much Better Questions for Dick Cheney on "This Week"l

Much Better Questions for Dick Cheney on "This Week"

First and foremost being, "Why are you such a dick?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/much-better-questions-for_b_461688.html

[republicansarewhores]

14. Dick Cheney is a filthy felon.

Not a fine fellow.

RAW

[24601]

21. That's unfair - I hear he showers. n/t

[bitchkitty]

31. No matter how caustic the soap, some slime never washes clean n/t

[Myrina]

43. ... how can he shower without shorting out all of his batteries?

:shrug:

[eppur_se_muova]

91. No showers, just sandblasting. nt

[Enthusiast]

68. Yeah, that's what I thought.

I felt Biden was trying to inject just a bit of sarcasm there.

[madokie]

15. Biden is a fighter and will kick the dicks ass if need be

With emphasis on the Will there too.
Go Joe.

[Mike K]

115. I respectfully beg to differ:

"Biden is a fighter and will kick the dicks ass if need be."

Biden is a talker, not a fighter. A fighter draws blood. Biden has never drawn blood but is well known for running his mouth.

[gateley]

138. Biden fought in the Senate to get funding for MRAPS for the

troops in Iraq. Everybody was against him, and he fought tooth and nail and got it done, or doesn't fighting both Dems and Reps and getting them to hand over $$$ for the safety of our troops qualify as "drawing blood"?

I'm sorry to see a DUer buying into the Republican and media "running his mouth" meme. Maybe if they -- and you -- actually listened to what he said sometime, you'd realize there's a lot more to the man than you give him credit for.

[cornermouse]

16. Is Biden right?

Yes.

Are those without jobs going to see any relevance in Biden debating Cheney over whose fault it is?

No, not really.

[blondeatlast]

49. Apples still don't equal cars. I fail to see your point. nt

[cornermouse]

97. My point is that Cheney may talk

but he's not really a factor any more.

It is okay to remind people of the basic fact that Bush put us here but that doesn't do anything to help anyone now or in the future. I don't know whether Biden talked about anything else or not because I had other things to do this morning but he and Obama aren't campaigning for office for another three years so why are we trying to rehash the campaign (the impression I had after reading the OP) when they should be talking about the problems people are facing now and presenting solutions.

[ProgressOnTheMove]

17. This is good stuff, now is the time to come out swinging, till they beg for mercy. +1..

I like what Bob Kincaid said, he said you can't do civil with these people every time they open their mouth tell them to sit down and SHUT UP. The only way to give them civil,,, is to beat civil into them(figuratively), it's what they understand.

[deacon]

24. That entire party is a bunch of nuts and scumbags. It's time for Dems to reunite and rake this

disgraceful, phony, weak hearted media over the coals again.

[kmac3]

45. Agreed

I have to applaud Joe Biden for his ability to keep on point when David tries over and over to put words in his mouth.

[Mike K]

113. Your enthusiasm is appreciated -

"I have to applaud Joe Biden for his ability to keep on point when David tries over and over to put words in his mouth."

But the time for applause is when Biden, or another significant cabinet member, calls for the Attorney General to do his job and prefer criminal charges against the Bush Crime Family, Richard Cheney outstandingly.

Until you hear that, all the talk is nothing but bullshit. And Joe Biden is well known as a bullshit artist.

[Bitwit1234]

19. In the last twenty or thirty years of Politics

I have never seen an administration like that of George W. Bush, FOR, criticizing, flaming and down right lying about the following administration. Have you seen any thing like it. Heck no. There is not one of the members of Bush's administration that is not themselves trying to "rewrite" history. From the press secretaries to the BUTTHOLE VICE PRESIDENT.

No other administration has constantly done this. Why. I 'll tell you. Because the Bush administration was such a mess. It ruined our country. It cause the economy to collapse. The invaded neutral countries. And now they are trying to get the public to dis-remember what they have done. I think VP Biden is correct to go after Cheney. I think that the members of Bush's administration should be shown up for what they are. CROOKS, KILLERS, CORRUPT LIARS. Only out to fill their pockets. And if the press didn't enable them, they wouldn't be getting a chance to do this.

[Enthusiast]

71. You are so right.

By pointing finger and shouting loudly about the shortcomings of the Obama Administration they are hoping to take the scrutiny off themselves. With the help of a Reich Wing media it is working.

It is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen. The previous administration has taken on the tactics of Rush Limbaugh.

And they aren't just engaged in trying to rewrite their own history. They are rewriting FDR's history in an unfavorable light. This is because they don't want their banking buddies to be re-regulated as FDR had to do.

The GOP grabbed power through a stolen election 2000 and they are fighting with everything at their disposal to keep it. And they are winning.

[deacon]

22. Amen. The GOP is the absolute worst against terrorism. n/t

[DFW]

121. The GOP gains no advantage in making real progress against terrorism

If terrorism is eradicated, their whole "you need us to protect you" routine falls flat, and
their social and economic failures have nothing left to hide behind.

Republicans need terrorism like plants need water..

[DailyGrind51]

23. Why didn't we see this side of Joe during the entire 1st year?

Joe could have been the sledgehammer that the President needs while he is attending to Presidential business.

[rucognizant]

36. 1 year model display of bipartisanship

Has given everyone a chance to see how that ISN"T working........................... now that the soft underbelly of the gop is exposed......time to move in for the kill! After all this IS the year of the Tiger!

[jillan]

59. You wanna know the truth -

Obama keeps a tight leash on Biden because of Biden's tendency to go off message.

[DailyGrind51]

114. Obama needs an "attack dog". Clinton had Carvill, Bush had Cheney.

Obama has Rahm, but he is more likely to go off on Progressives than on Republicans.

[gateley]

80. If Joe hadn't been reined in, we WOULD have seen 'this side' of

him. He's been telling it like it is about Bush/Cheney since they took office. He actually told Rumsfeld and Cheney he'd have them arrested if he could. That's Biden and that's why I think so highly of him.

[gateley]

82. This is how Joe has been during his Senate years, and EXACTLY

how he was when he was in the primaries for President. He's been reined in by the administration (which it has the right to do), and when he DOES tell it like it is, he's buried in "gaffe" BS.

[disndat]

26. Be Still My Heart!

Looks like the WH is abandoning bi-partisanship and ready to let loose its storehouse of arsenal against the party of NO.

[Cass]

28. Joe Biden laid it all out right there and called Cheney out for his bullsh** .

I loved when he said Cheney is either misinformed or misinforming. And the point about the military tribunals vs. civilian courts was excellent. I'm looking forward to seeing the whole interview.

Thanks for posting! K & R

[hedgehog]

29. It reminds me of the SNL parody during the election,

when "Joe Biden" said re John McCain something like: God love him, but he's a raging lunatic...

[RoccoR5955]

30. Ok Joe, so when does the treason trial start?

Or is Cheney above the law?

[swilton]

46. I'm with you -

Words are cheap Joe!

[Enthusiast]

72. Oh, he's above the law alright.

That has been established.

It appears that not only are Bush and Cheney above the law but the previous attorneys general and all the rest engaged in malfeasance are above the law.

And Obama as much as said so. Well, he said "No one is above the law but we must 'look forward'". What does this mean? It means Obama says nothing will be done about the criminality of Cheney, the criminality we know exists, that he has as much as confessed to.

[Mad_Dem_X]

32. Love ya, Joe! Go get 'im!

Enough is enough - we need to go after these criminals.

[Historic NY]

33. good for Joe someone has to call Dick out.

[crazyjoe]

39. I'd love to see them debate each other

biden would wipe the floor with cheney

[Wizard777]

40. Honestly, this is the first time I've heard our successes laid out in bullet point fashion.

In this area the administrations humility is more of a disservice than a virtue.

[activa8tr]

42. It's about f*in time! This should have happened months ago!

Like 12 months ago, as soon as that slime, Cheney, or his daughter opened their mouths.

[hmorehead]

44. And there are those, like me, who feel that "terrorism" wags the freaking dog.

[swilton]

51. I agree with you Humorhead

No question of the endless war mentality and what it's doing to our country's humanity and society....no questioning of the role of the US in the Middle East and the Helen Thomas-esque questions of the motives for terrorism........

Furthermore, Biden could have been more succinct and just said Cheney is a war criminal and his administration was incompetent - he's just trying to blow smoke to camouflage these fatal flaws.

[gateley]

85. Biden is my guy - love him with all my heart -- but "succinct"?

:rofl:

Just not in the man's DNA I don't think. :7

[hmorehead]

155. Swilton: are you from Abuzz?

[SirRevolutionary]

50. Tear him a new one Joe!

The only way to defeat evil is to drag it out into the sunlight.

[onehandle]

52. Cheney will just imply that Joe is unpatriotic and doesn't know as much as he on security.

He'll say we're going to be hit again (which may be true, duh) and Joe's words will be forgotten.

BECAUSE THE MEDIA SEEMS TO THINK THAT DICK CHENEY IS STILL IN POWER.

Ignore him. Go away and disappear, Dick. Have some donuts.

So, you like donuts, eh?
Um-hmm.
Well, have all the donuts in the world!

[salguine]

53. And yet I can't help but notice this is more tough talk with no action backing it up. This

administration still refuses to bring any kind of criminal charges against the most lawless administration in history, evidence of whose crimes would fill volumes. He's tearing Cheney a new one on one hand and the administration's letting him off the legal hook with the other. Put his ass in some orange coveralls and ship it to Guantanamo if you want to impress me.

[Jester Messiah]

54. Cheney was unavailable for further comment...

because he was cowering in his "undisclosed location".

[mulsh]

56. Biden is wrong, Cheney is not a "fine fellow"

and I wish Mr. Biden would watch his mouth. Other wise Mr. Biden is spot on.

[jillan]

60. That's his style. He always gives a compliment right before he goes in for the kill.

[gateley]

84. I'll never forget seeing Joe and Lindsey on a Sunday talk show -

Joe was all palsy and complimentary with Lindsey, Lindsey was just about eating out of Joe's hand, then WHAM - Joe told it like it was. :7

[Fire1]

69. Diplomacy. n/t

[laughingliberal]

57. But...but...I read on DU that Huffpo is anti-Obama...nt

[jillan]

58. "Where has Cheney been? How can he be so misinformed? You can't be entitled to your own facts."

Go Joe!!!!:toast: :toast:

And you can tell Biden had it with Gregory!

[zonkers]

61. I don't get DUers. How is this tough talk? Gimme some Grayson.

[Jennicut]

63. Biden pretty much showed Cheney's hypocrisy

in criticizing Obama about civilian trials for terrorist suspects while the Bush administration pursued the same course of action for most of the terrorist suspects they had in custody. Really, Biden didn't have to attack him on a personal level and refused to go there. He just basically called Cheney a total liar. Good enough for me.

[zonkers]

70. Why the pussyfooting? Instead of "basically calling him a liar", why not just call him a bold faced

liar and demand an apology for those lies? Don't you think Cheney deserves it? It wouldn't be a a personal attack. Instead it was just another hollow "Aha! We gotcha moment" that will be forgotten about next week.

[Jennicut]

77. Well, the media will just accuse Biden of something.

I am just glad he called Cheney out on his lies.

[zonkers]

93. Me too. If only the outrage went viral and became a mandate for Obama to prosecute Bushco.

Cheney behind bars. Now that would be wonderful.

[Enthusiast]

75. But how often has this administration

even came to its own defense? Republicans spout this same attack every fucking day and hardly a word is said to refute it.

[Jennicut]

76. I don't know. I am just glad they let Biden go at him.

[peoli]

62. Free Joe Biden! Let him OUT OF HIS CAGE!

[gateley]

83. + 1 Exactly. nt

[Fire1]

64. "rewrite history," code for LIE!! Get em Joe!! n/t

[abelenkpe]

65. Why isn't Cheney in prison? nt

[kywildcat]

67. That's what I want to know-

The biggest terrorist of them all. He's still free?

[trusty elf]

112. .......

[DutchLiberal]

66. Biden is being hypocritical for accusing Cheney of "shredding the Constitution"...

Since his (Obama's) administration is doing the same. They didn't repeal the Patriot Act, and the president still holds the unprecedented power to appoint anybody, including US citizens, "terror suspects" and can order to have them killed without there ever having been a trial to prove it!

[Strato222]

73. The Question....

The question I'd love to hear a commentator ask Dick Cheney is, "Where are you getting your information from". I assume the pertinent details of the "war" against Al Qaeda and/or terrorism are classified. So, if he is in a position to give educated assessments of operations, he must be being fed information illegally. At the very least, this line of questioning should put him on the defensive. And if he gives the answer, "I still have friends in the defense department", well, then you got yourself a story.

[gateley]

86. Oooh -- good one!

:headbang:

[troubledamerican]

74. Biden should've offered a tearful apology, like Harry Reid does

You guys are ANGRY liberals.

Be more like HARRY REID and bow your head and get on your knees.

[gateley]

78. That's my guy! You go, Joe! nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

88. Good

and while he is at Cheney he can call out Mitch McConnell too.

[judesedit]

89. WAY TO GO, JOE! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

xo

[Vidar]

90. K&R.

[mvd]

92. Go Joe!

Biden did fine; only Cheney resorts to personal attacks when in an argument. Biden, as VP, did a great job of keeping himself in check while really giving it to Cheney.

[bongbong]

94. Even more proof of 'pig evil....

... when did you hear Gore ripping Darth or chimpo in 2001 and/or 2002?

What a bunch of evil fuks the 'pigs are. They really - REALLY - are just criminal masterminds who could care less about America.

Other than what they can steal from the taxpayer, anyway.

[mvd]

96. Repukes are all about what's good for them

They don't even support free markets in the traditional sense. They govern to protect those who already are the have mores. That's why bipartisanship will not work. If you can get a couple of the "moderates", fine. But don't tailor policy to accomodate them.

[certainot]

95. limbaugh and sons will once again demonstrate why the left can't frame or

message their way out of a paper bag. if any of this makes any dent in cheney a week of uncontested repetition from 1000 radio stations, ignored by the left, will shout over any gains for common sense and justice.

the radio monopoly isn't going to go away soon and until the left starts picketing those stations and complaining to their local sponsors it's going to keep playing catch up.

[pleah]

98. K&R

[The Doctor.]

99. The very premise here is a lie...

You can't draw blood from the unliving.

[mvd]

100. LOL

:thumbsup:

[alp227]

103. I saw MtP this morning, and the interview was really engaging and intense

Gregory and Biden's exchange made my day. Biden manhandled those tough questions about the KSM trial! Given the facts that 100s of terrorists have been successfully convicted in fed court under the previous (REPUBLICAN) administration (including Richard Reid and Zac Moussaoui) I see this whole pseudo-controversy over the KSM trial as some utter right-wing desperation to dislike the current (DEMOCRATIC) administration.

[Roon]

104. Don't ask when: Repeal of gay ban won't be soon

WASHINGTON (AP) - As promised, the Pentagon has begun examining how the ban on gays serving openly could be eased and then repealed. But a complete repeal of the "don't ask, don't tell" policy is probably years away.

http://www.9news.com/news/world/article.aspx?storyid=132748&catid=347

[No Elephants]

105. Not prosecuting war crimes, but Biden called Cheney a poopyhead for criticizing Obama, so it's all

good. But it's the Republicans who are too dumb to get it.

Amazing.

[Presidentcokedupfratboy]

106. Nice going, Joe

Tell that War Criminal what the facts are.

[BenjaminFranklin]

107. k&r

bump

[Zhade]

110. Until Cheney et al are tried for their crimes, this is just tough talk.

I'll be impressed when these people do their jobs and prosecute, and not one second earlier.

Talk is cheap.

[sandyj999]

111. You Go Joe!!!

[SeattleGirl]

116. Go Joe!!!!

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[24601]

117. On Meet the Press, just about every time Joe disagreed with Dick,

he prefaced it with, "Now Dick Cheney is a fine fellow; but, ...."

[DainBramaged]

118. Joe pricked the Dick???

Got to watch it later, first time in ages I'm going to watch Press the Meat.

[gateley]

139. Be sure to watch the "roundtable" portion too. It's kind of hard

to take with the Republican jerkwad AND Harold Ford, but Rachel is an absolute delight.

[Guilded Lilly]

119. Good Onya, Joe! That's the classy way

to call some DICK a braindead, manipulative liar (grin).
Smootchies to Mr. Biden. :)

[ezdidit]

120. Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Powells's aide-de-camp

said he thought Cheney was crazy several months ago at The Public Record,
http://pubrecord.org/nation/4936/wilkerson-ive-conclusion-cheney/

“I wouldn’t have said that a couple of years ago, but now I’ve come
to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way
when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know,
that’s not at issue with me any more
— the man now is just crazy,” said Wilkerson.

[YOY]

123. They're just words until someone actually throws some charges at him.

n.t.

[MrsBrady]

125. We are watching this now as we recorded it this morning…

Biden is so good in this forum.
I wish he would do this more often.
He gets it.

I mean this in a nice way, but Gregory is an ass.
It's not his tone of voice that bothers me, it's just that his
questions are so skewed. He's almost talking down to Biden.
It's one thing to ask pointed questions to get at facts, but quite another
to ask questions that sound like they wre written by some Republican hack.

[BrklynLiberal]

132. K&R and forwarded

[heliarc]

133. First Blood?

I love the fact that Joe is opening fire, but Cheney drew firsl blood a long time ago when he started blabbing around on talk shows at the beginning of the first year of the Obama Presidency. First Blood is a little bit disingenuous.

[treestar]

134. GO JOE! GO JOE! GO JOE!

Take that evil bastard to the cleaners!

[benld74]

135. WHY DOES MSM - PLACE Past Admin fools on their Shows Anyway?

Are they attempting a Sunday Morning Survivors episode?
Do they need the ratings that much?
Do they HATE the current admin that much?
Do they LOVE the past Admin that much?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

136. but brutus was an honorable man...dick cheney was a fine fellow

interesting oratory technique

[Terra Alta]

137. Go Biden!

Now if Biden can convince his boss to press war crimes charges against Cheney(and Dumbya), I'd love Biden even more!

[EmeraldCityGrl]

140. Biden should have called Cheney a LIAR...

a propagandist, a treasonous war criminal. That would have been drawing first blood. Biden was
a gentleman.

[humbled_opinion]

141. What seems strange to me are the

comments about this article posted on the Huffington Post. It seems many people are making Joe Biden out to be a joke and agree with Cheney that Obama is being soft on Terror.

If the Popular meme becomes Obama is weak on terror because of decision (a), (b), (c), etc and we get hit again by Al-Qaeda it will strengthen Cheney's argument and depending on the amount of damage caused by the attack may very well serve as a tipping point Politically for President Obama. How is it possible that he has fallen so far in the polls? There are some strange forces at work in the country.

My fear is that unlike 911 when all the political powers came together for the good of the country The political setup that the GOP is creating is a blame game and therefore another such attack will not harbor that same good will for President Obama and may even lead to a fracturing of the United States with calls for secessation and independent state authorities to set up various protective measures. It really does scare me...

The racist cult of tea baggers will be calling for nothing short of Obama's resignation they are already convinced Obama is a totalitarian dictator that intends on stealing their rights away. It won't take much for this mob to threaten violence if their desires are resisted and then if the President does order such measures against these people it will only fuel the fire that he is using his power to stop political dissent.

This very scene has played out in many countries before for reasons from Poverty to war so the scenario.

It is very plausible.

and very scary and exactly something that a relatively small terror network may plan as a Strategic approach to defeating an enemy that has a massive army and sophisticated weaponry.

[Jennicut]

146. Obama has a rating on handling foreign affairs at over 50% per Gallup.

The majority of the public thinks Cheney is an idiot. Huff Post allows Rethugs to post there, so...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/125678/Obama-Approval-Economy-Down-Foreign-Affairs-Up.aspx

[humbled_opinion]

147. Not nearly high enough to assuage

The fears that the Repukes are going to be able to instill in the American electorate if we have another major terror attack on our shores.

Look Bush was given the benefit of the doubt on 911 because there was no national debate on who did what and why. Bush received a plurality of support from Democrats and Repubs after the events on 911 the country united.

That is my point. A terror attack on America is going to destroy it. That is why the likes of Cheney et.al, needs to be reprimanded now. The longer that that this divisive fued of which party is handling the situation correctly is allowed to fester the worse the coming war in America will be.

I really don't know what the answer is.

[Shining Jack]

142. K&R

[demosincebirth]

143. Why not just say it Joe...he's a draft dodger and a f***Ing Liar

[donheld]

145. !

[applegrove]

148. He's really good at being an attack dog for Obama. Set him free to do what he does best.

[northofdenali]

149. I just watched it (we get things late in Alaska). Joe Biden is THE MAN.

"Re-write history" indeed. He called Cheney a liar (true) and a hyprocre (tr8e) and a dissembler (true) - all in words that President Obama will NOT have to defend!!!

I :loveya: Joe Biden. He won my mother's vote - she's 97 - when she was "iffy" becuase of the socialism thing. But I :loveya: him even more after today!

[Alias Dictus Tyrant]

150. Metal Cage Death Match on Pay-Per-View?

I'd pay to see that.

[northofdenali]

151. The spouse just said -

HOLY SHIT!!!!
Even the cats are watching.
Saved this one for posterity.

Joe Biden ROCKS.

[BlueIris]

153. What's this...Biden trying to be a real Vice-President?

Okay.

We'll see how long this lasts.