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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:24 PM
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Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs 'expecting $100 million bonus'
Source: Times of London

Goldman Sachs, the world’s richest investment bank, could be about to pay its chief executive a bumper bonus of up to $100 million in defiance of moves by President Obama to take action against such payouts.

Bankers in Davos for the World Economic Forum (WEF) told The Times yesterday they understood that Lloyd Blankfein and other top Goldman bankers outside Britain were set to receive some of the bank’s biggest-ever payouts. “This is Lloyd thumbing his nose at Obama,” said a banker at one of Goldman’s rivals.

Goldman Sachs is becoming the focus of an increasingly acrimonious political and financial showdown over the payment of multimillion-pound bonuses.Last week the US President described bonuses paid out by some banks as “the height of irresponsibility” and “shameful”.

Read more: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article7010492.ece



FWIW, they paid $6.44 billion in corporate taxes in 2009... It'll be interesting to see how DC responds if this figure is true.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:28 PM
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1. Madame Guillotine, may I introduce you to M. Blankfein.
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 10:31 PM by hobbit709
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 11:38 PM
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10. I would pull the lever.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:12 AM
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14. But where to display the head, that's the question. Right above the door of
the New York Stock Exchange, maybe...
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:43 AM
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24. ...next to Paulson's and Geithner's (nt)
Paulson presided over the greatest financial debacle since the Depression and gets to write a book about it!
Excert in the WSJ today: He's hiding behind God now (or is that Blankfein).
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:46 AM
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18. Dream on.
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unabelladonna Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:30 PM
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2. i want to say something
but it would get me in trouble.
this is vile. why would anyone need this amount of money?
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:00 AM
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28. to keep the best talent of course. nt
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HBravo Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:37 PM
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3. He earned it.
:sarcasm:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:21 AM
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31. You owe me a new monitor.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:38 PM
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4. I like Grapes .... How bout Dem Cowboy's ... Did ya notice..
the weather lately ?

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:41 PM
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5. this is wrong is so many ways
I hope there is a life in the hereafter so that this POS can burn in hell for all of eternity.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:42 PM
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6. The other day it was posted that the CEO of American Express got a 60% salary raise to 2 mil.
A lot of DUers were in a huff about that.

I shrugged it off thinking that it wasn't really that much compared to things like this.

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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 11:47 PM
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11. Salaries and bonuses are different. Blankfein's salary is only $600K. nt
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 09:54 AM
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25. Only? n/t
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:13 AM
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33. Yeah, only.
To put it in perspective, his salary is 0.6% of his bonus. That would be like one of us with a 50k/year salary getting an end of the year bonus of 8.3 million. He likely considers 600k/year a "poverty" wage and relies on his bonuses as his "real" income.

That doesn't make it right, but that's how they see it.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:50 PM
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7. Obama at the SOTU (direct quote) "I don't want to punish the banks"
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 10:51 PM by depakid
Besides being an awful sound bite, it misses the point that there are literally thousands of crimes the banks have committed that that have gone unprosecuted.

The FBI warned of 12,000 cases of mortgage fraud being committed in 2004 alone, with banks initiating 80% of the fraud. The FBI repeatedly warned throughout the mid 2000's of the most massive wave of financial crimes being committed since the Savings and Loans Scandals during the 1980's.

Yet, the Savings and Loans scandal saw over a thousand industry insiders go to jail, while the current crisis has only seen a few crooks like Bernie Madoff go to jail. None of the big fish, who were the CEOs at the major banks who encouraged such "epidemic fraud," as the FBI labeled it, have been put in jail.

What the president could and should have done, in addition to calling for tough financial reform, was to call for a special task force armed with thousands of investigators to look into crimes committed by the big banks....

More on that here (thankfully, some few were paying attention to underlying message and weren't razzled and dazzled by the lofty rhetoric): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-elk/in-sotu-obama-says-he-doe_b_439798.html

Next thing you, we'll be hearing about how the health insurers are "not bad people...."

Oh, wait....

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:51 AM
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19. "it misses the point that there are literally thousands of crimes the banks
have committed that that have gone unprosecuted."

Of course it misses that point. Say what you will about Obama, he's no dummy.
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:59 PM
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8. I don't buy for a second that he is thumbing his nose at Obama.
Goldman and the Government, they are one and the same.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 11:22 PM
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9. I guarantee Obama will do absolutely nothing
I'm willing to put money on it.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 11:59 PM
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12. Sadly, you're right.
There would have already been another Pecora Commission started if anyone were serious about going after these criminals.

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GiveMeFreedom Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:14 AM
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17. You all ready did. n/t
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:10 AM
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13. Sadly.. Coporations will get whatever they want...
..our leadershjip in Washington will make sure that Corporate robbers will get every assistance that they need.

Workers..tax payers..middle class.. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING..?
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:15 AM
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15. i chose the wrong profession...
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 01:07 AM
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16. Grrr. It's time for torches and pitchforks.
I am sick to DEATH of these assholes taking our money and living the high life while cheating the public.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:56 AM
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20. Meh. I don't see mobs of villagers, or city dwellers or burbites taking to the streets.
Americans are sheep and those who govern us know that.

Were the frogs in the cold water that just kept getting a little hotter and a little hotter. We're full acclimated to life in the boiling water now. So comfy. Kind of makes you sleepy.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:04 AM
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29. Its so very saddening to me that your assessment is accurate.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:21 AM
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35. If it were possible to educate the teabaggers,
then you would see just that.

However, if they haven't figured out who the real enemies are by now, then I don't think they'll do so in the near future...
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:59 AM
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21. that's more money than most of us would make in several lifetimes . . .
I often wonder just how much is enough for these people . . . I guess the concept just doesn't register with them . . .
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 06:13 AM
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22. How much did Goldman Sachs get out of the AIG bailout?
wasn't their payout reportedly disproportionately bigger (on a dollar per "insured" dollar basis) than other smaller entities? So the rich dudes are all cool with 'socialism' when it comes to their bonuses.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:29 PM
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47. They offered to settle for $0.40 on the dollar before Geithner stepped in
and made them agree to $1 on the $1 "to reduce investor concerns". (Or Morgan Stanley agreed to $0.40 - don't recall). Regardless - All 5 remaining Investment Banks had to agree on the AIG passthrough % or it would fail. In order to get them all to agree, Timmeh raised the low bid to full payout.

Blah.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:29 AM
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23. It's not really a full $100 million
after commissions are paid to Timmy and Larry.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 09:59 AM
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27. LOL!
spot on my friend :hi:
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 09:59 AM
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26. given in pennies, all at once, droped from 100' above.
I believe the man deserves his bonus.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:16 AM
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34. Hell, even a package of $100 bill bundles dropped from 100'
would be detrimental to his continued health :P
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:13 AM
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30. Break up Goldman!
The biggest lie being told by the Wall Street bankers is that these bonuses are needed to retain talent. It ranks right up there with the right-wing's assertion that the media is Liberal.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:24 AM
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32. Tax it @ 99% and I'm cool with it...
:puke:
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Johnny Harpo Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:32 AM
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36. FUCK YOU LLOYD!...AND YOUR BUDDY TIMMY TOO!
n/t
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:35 AM
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37. "Bernie, you're doing a heck of a job!" -- President Obama nt
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:36 AM
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38. My #1 concern is that Blankfein not be forced to contribute any of that in excess of $250k to SS!
That wouldn't be fair!!!!

:rofl:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:42 AM
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39. In any other country, a tank would have been driven through Lloyd Bankfiend's house.
But because this is weak-ass "UhMuhricUh", whose citizens are trained to believe they too will be a "Lloyd Bankfiend" someday if they just worked HARD enough, he takes it without a peep and we continue to struggle and blame it on the "Have Too Littles".
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:08 PM
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40. A money trail
Your paycheck > AIG > Goldman Sachs > Lloyd's pocket.





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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:10 PM
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41. It's how God would want it.
:sarcasm:
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 02:25 PM
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42. What really galls me: The word "expecting" re a $100M bonus
The sense of entitlement is despicable. :rant:
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:50 PM
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43. Levy a 99% tax on his corrupt ass bonus
That seems fair.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:16 PM
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44. Nobody is worth that kind of money.
How many people in the world starved to death while he "worked" for this bonus?
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 06:16 PM
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45. Fucked up. Are any of our politicians saying anything about this? n/t
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:28 AM
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48. What? And risk losing out on their bribes ... oops ... "donations"? (n/t)
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:23 PM
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46. Mr "Doing God's Work" Blankfein may want to look into the witness protection option
This isn't going to be popular. Lots of crazy people out there, Lloyd. Greed is sooooooo '80s.

Let us all know how this works out for ya, aye?
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 11:04 AM
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49. Goldman Sachs chief spokesman Lucas Van Praag responds
to the Times report...

"There's speculation, and there is stupidity. This speculation transcends the simply stupid and takes it to an entirely new level...giving credibility to tittle-tattle is pretty shoddy journalism"
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