Guerrilla Attacks Kill 4 U.S. Soldiers in Baghdad (Reuters 3:03AM Sunday)

[huckleberry]

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Two separate roadside bomb blasts in Baghdad killed four U.S. soldiers, the U.S. Army said on Sunday.

A spokesman said three soldiers were killed and one wounded in a blast around 10:45 p.m. on Saturday in southeast Baghdad. Another soldier was wounded when a roadside bomb exploded at 6:30 a.m. on Sunday and later died of his wounds.


http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?ype=worldNews&storyID=4562148

[thebigidea]

1. "Will more people get killed? You bet." - Rumsfeld

[Kool Kitty]

12. Ah, more refreshing wisdom

from the silver tongue of Rumsfeld. Great likeness.

[scarface2004]

41. are more people gonna die.....you bet!!

was rummy's take on the subject!

[saigon68]

43. "BRING EM ON", screeched the impotent AWOL CHIMPANZEE

And "Bring it on", the resistance did.

Six more fine Americans killed today.

God only knows how many Iraqis.

How many more children without a parent?

How many more mothers without a child?

How many more dollars earned for Halliburton?

How much more money in Pres. Dick Cheney's pocket?
(he's the guy who runs Amerika through his witless Chimp sock puppet)

[readmylips]

2. Typo in Reuters report: 389 killed should be 589 so far killed...

I gues Reuters doesn't want to shock the Sunday crowd.

[Qanisqineq]

3. no, it is 566

389 is probably the number Reuters has for since the war ENDED

[coda]

8. KIA since the start of the war

"The attacks brought to 389 the number of U.S. soldiers killed in action in Iraq since the start of the war to oust Saddam Hussein."

[Qanisqineq]

10. then I don't know what to tell you

A number of places only list the total since * declared "Mission Accomplished" and I figured that's where Reuter's got that number. I go by what my husband sees on the Armed Forces Network.

[coda]

14. I know what you mean Tolania

I saw a figure for KIA in the 200's as recent as a month ago. :shrug:

[DeaconBlues]

37. They are using the number who have been killed directly

by the hands of the insurgents (KIA). They are ignoring those who have died in vehicle accidents from trying to avoid enemy fire, those killed by friendly fire, suicides, etc. This is there way to make the Iraqi quagmire seem less deadly than it is.

Don't you just love the media?

[readmylips]

4. CNN web salys 6 soldiers killed...

Roadside bombs kill six soldiers
Sunday, March 14, 2004 Posted: 3:23 AM EST (0823 GMT)

Iraqis stand outside of a Baghdad shop Saturday after a blast killed the store's owner and wounded two people.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A spate of roadside bombings this weekend has killed six U.S. soldiers, according to the U.S.-led coalition.

Most recently, a roadside bomb -- or improvised explosive device (IED) -- in Baghdad claimed the life of one 1st Infantry Division soldier Sunday morning, according to the Coalition Press Information Center. The bombing happened at 6:30 a.m. (10:30 p.m. Saturday ET), CPIC said.

[Qanisqineq]

7. yes, 2 were yesterday

[Journeyman]

5. I noticed the death rate fell in recent weeks. . .

which I attributed to the changeover: Those leaving Iraq were playing it close to "home" in the final weeks of their deployment, while the incoming troops weren't yet out on patrol. My guess is, the changeover is about finished, and the new troops are starting to feel their way around now. The Iraqi insurgents, meanwhile, remained where they were, waited, and plotted. . .

[Qanisqineq]

9. I think you are right

My husband is one of those on his way home. He has been in Kuwait for the last week. For about 2-3 weeks prior to him leaving Iraq, they didn't go out on patrols and stayed close to home packing their gear, etc.

[Journeyman]

11. This was the opinion of a lot of Grunts in 'Nam. . .

for the high American casualty rate: We were constantly changing personnel, so those who learned to survive in the jungle were rotated out while green troops replaced them. Meanwhile, Charlie stayed where he'd always been and grew stronger. It's only a theory, of course, the reasoned speculation of those directly involved, and you can give it what credence you may. Me? I expect to see a sharply spiked American fatality count in the coming weeks.

[DrWeird]

15. Maybe.

I also think we changed tactics to decrease the number of casualties to look good for Bush's campaign. At the expense of more Iraqi civilians getting caught in the cross fire. But the casualty rates are back up, so I'm guessing the resistance is adapting to our change in tactics.

[suegeo]

16. If I recall...

Back during that war, this kind of rotation was called "Shake and Bake." ???

[lebkuchen]

21. They were being trained in Kuwait

50% of them are now "in theater."

[bfusco]

24. I think the numbers

that wax and wane or just from guerrilla forces having to adjust to US moves. It seems that when we have a spike in attacks,US forces respond and the insurgency has to hide/disperse only to reemerge and be just as deadly. I think the numbers reported reflect those killed from hostile action. In the past we used to include all those killed in a hostile theater and didn't differentiate the nature of the death. I don't remember separate lists for those killed in hostile versus non-hostile action in Vietnam. It's part of a propaganda measure to minimize casualties. This site is pretty good at reporting number of casualties and breaking down the numbers (those killed since the start of the war, after May 1, after "bring em on" remark and after the capture of Hussein). I don't know if it is updated for the recent round of attacks.
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx

[starroute]

39. I think they were differentiated but were all included in the totals

A while back, I found my way to a searchable list of names on the Vietnam wall. I looked up a childhood friend of my husband's who'd been killed when he went down one of those Viet Cong tunnels and it collapsed on him. His death was shown as "non-hostile."

The difference is that if that had happened today, he wouldn't even rate a mention.

[bluestateguy]

6. Despicable

It's going to take the next president years to clean this mess up, so long, in fact, that he will likely inherit much of the blame for it. The people must be reminded that this is, and always will be Mr. Bush's war.

[Mari333]

13. Every day, I wake up, this morning I got up at 4 am

and now, more dead kids. More every day. and the news gives them just a small blurb, nothing much, ignores whats going on, and does fluff pieces
Somewhere, a mother and father, or husband and wife, will have a car drive into their driveway, and have military personnel come to their door. They will knock on the door and say "Ma'am, Sir, we are sorry to inform you that your son/daughter has died in battle".
If that happens to me, I will spit in their faces I will scream , I will bring my own camera to the Dover AF base and the whole world will see what they have done to a soldier. There is no way in hell I will let the Bush admin murder my son and get away with it
But some family, somewhere, is going to get that news today. Their lives will be ruined forever, forever. and somewhere wealthy corporate men and politicians sleep and dont care who dies, and will check their bank accounts in the morning to see if this or that soldiers horrific death made them more money.

bring the troops home now.
http://www.bringthemhomenow.com

[Syrinx]

18. support

[ps1074]

22. Stay strong MAri333

I don't know what else to say...

Every time I see a report for like tis I think of you and your hubby. Hugs from me for you, your husband and your step son.

:hug:

[Mari333]

23. Xanax. or I dont get thru the day.

Ill be gone from DU for a week.Back on Thursday.
http://www.bringthemhomenow.com
http://www.mfso.org

[llmart]

42. And here in today's paper....

nothing but "wonderful" upbeat news about how the Middle East is just improving on a daily basis because of *'s policies. Well, they also have a few articles about how wonderful the economy is too. And they had a blurb about how the killing of US soldiers is way down. If I didn't read DU every day I'd think there was a veritable rainbow and yellow brick road to follow in Iraq.

Mari - keep voicing your truth loud and clear! Write editorials to the Free Press and Detroit News and give them hell. We're all with you.

[lebkuchen]

17. The base where I work, in Germany, is flying flags at half mast

One wonders when they'll be flying at full mast again.

[Mari333]

19. There will barely be a blip in the news in the US

wait and see. They dont seem to care anymore.

[lebkuchen]

20. Even Stars and Stripes has the story of the Tikrit killings on page 6

Today's headline is "5 suspects arrested in Madrid bombings."

The newspaper is put together in DC.

[leftchick]

25. That Makes EIGHT Soldiers in the last 3 Days!?!

Am I counting correctlly? I heard nothing about the first two on my TV.
Bring them home Now! :(

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[Flagg]

27. LOL

bye bye "right..."

France told you Iraq would be a mess

should have listened
go fatten up on some freedom fries now

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[Flagg]

29. LOL

and where are you typing from ?

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[Flagg]

32. disrespectful to all members of the U.S. Military

yeah so ?


and calling a member of DU a cunt like you did in one of your previous post is what exactly ?

[leftchick]

36. is that what he called me?

Why that little d**k! I missed all the fun!

[teach1st]

33. What is really disrespectful is...

..using our soldiers in an ill-conceived invasion that had very little to do with terrorism and was inititated on false claims, not equipping them properly, reducing their benefits and medical coverage, while extending their tour.

[gristy]

34. Open your eyes, son. Your mind, your heart

You spew hatred with your every word here. That hatred is going to be the death of you. I'm sorry your hate is so overwhelming. Must be difficult for you.

[mtnester]

31. Early to rise

Man, trolls get up earlier every day now I see.

And why aren't you over there fighting those animals yourself then? Says alot about "your" balls now, doesn't it? How about lugging yourself out of that basement of yours, putting YOUR keyboard away, and head out to that enlistment office toot-sweet?

[RichV]

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Deleted content. Decided not to feed the troll.

[pippin]

38. Total 564

15 in March 2004. let's also not forget the deaths of our "allies" who got roped into this mess: 59 British soldiers have also died along with 42 others bring the total to 665.

http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx

How many Iraqi civilians have we also murdered but who we don't bother to think about?
March 17, the day this glorious country brought on operation "shock and awe" should be remembered as our day of shame. :mad:

[GoldenOldie]

40. How many lives have been lost?????

How many Iraqi civilians....men, women, children, through air attacks, cross fire, mistaken identity?????

How many have committed suicide?????

How many military in accidents??????

How many military have died during medical transportation to Germany, etc.?????

How many civilian support (contractor's, consultant's advisor's, etc.)??????

500, 600, 1,000 ........thousands?????

It amazes me that the chicken hawks and defenders of this Administration who claim to be the only true patriots and Christians, are unwilling to either stand-up and enlist to actually fight themselves in this bloody war or to honestly face the death and destruction that is occurring.