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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:51 PM
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US warning over Haiti stability (BBC)
The U.S. justifying stepping up the repression of the local population after already overthrowing their government and kidnapping their elected President. Heck, elections were only a year or two away in Haiti. They couldn't wait for those elections as they knew they would lose those elections, too.
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US warning over Haiti stability


General Myers said there had been some progress in Haiti
Top US general Richard Myers has warned it will take time to restore stability in Haiti after the departure of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

Speaking during a brief visit, General Myers said violence would not be tolerated and would be "dealt with".

General Myers' visit came shortly after US troops leading Haiti's international peacekeeping force shot and killed two people in the capital, Port-au-Prince.

US troops said they were gunmen but locals said the men were bystanders.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3509454.stm
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Myers goes on to say the U.S. doesn't take sides. What a joke. They are not taking sides when they station Marines to protect the sweatshop factories where garments are made for America? And, they are not taking sides when they stand idly by and watch the crimninal thug opposition gangs burn the police stations, the kids' radio station and the foundation for peace that Aristide had set up? They do nothing then.



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molok555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:57 PM
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1. This sounds familiar
"US troops said they were gunmen but locals said the men were bystanders."

How many times have we heard that from Iraq?
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:04 AM
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3. the Guardian has a little more info on the U.S. kills of today
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Relatives of 18-year-old Frantzy Louis wailed and hugged each other at his tin shack home in Belair. Looking at pictures of him, they said he wouldn't have been holding a gun.

``He was playing basketball when the Americans and the French began firing,'' said Louis' brother, 24-year-old Rudy. ``He wasn't political. All he did was study and play basketball.''

Residents identified the other victim as Dread Pasteur, 29, and said it was possible more than two people were killed in the gunbattle.

Several people also were injured in Friday's gunbattle. One was Evans Dubuisson, 17, who said he was shot in the side after crossing the street to buy candles for his family.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3858467,00.html
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:01 AM
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2. U.S. warns Jamaica that it is "certainly taking on a risk" in helping Aris
Edited on Sun Mar-14-04 12:01 AM by eablair3
Aristide, in exile in the Central African Republic since Feb. 29, was to fly to Jamaica on Monday to be reunited with his daughters, who stayed in New York during the upheaval. He has claimed he was forced out by the U.S. government.

A delegation of American and Jamaican officials - including Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif. - left Miami Saturday night in a chartered jet to bring Aristide to Jamaica.

The flight was expected to land in the Central African Republic on Sunday afternoon. Aristide was scheduled to arrive in Jamaica on Monday morning.

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U.S. Ambassador to Haiti James Foley said Saturday that ``Jamaican authorities are certainly taking on a risk and a responsibility'' by accepting Aristide.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3858467,00.html

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I wonder if it's the same charter company?

Don't you like these veiled threats? I wonder what they will get the IMF and WB to do to Jamaica. Although they have already screwed Jamaica over about as bad as they can already, so short of another armed coup, there probably is not a lot they can do economic wise.

If anyone hasn't seen it, but gets the chance, ... don't miss a really excellent documentary called "Life And Debt" about the IMF, WB and "globalization" effects in Jamaica. That film more than anything else let me gain a lot more understanding of those issues.

http://www.lifeanddebt.org/
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MrSoundAndVision Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:13 AM
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4. I'll check it out...
thanks. My wife has been doing a little research into globalization, and has found some rather disturbing statistics, I'll post 'em here soon. Thanks again for the link.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:17 AM
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5. How about hitting the "undo" button?
1. Arrest the rebels. (Send them to the Central African Republic, perhaps?)
2. Return the democratically elected president to power.
3. Apologize, and suggest to the French that they work out a payment plan for reimbursing Haiti its forced payments to the slaveowners.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:21 AM
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6. Duh. You think?
The situation is getting out of control.
And these retards think threats will fix it.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:34 AM
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7. Yes, My Friend
They have fixed it real good, so far.

No good whatever can come of this, for anyone. One of the things that amazes me is the cheap sums for which this sort of piracy is undertaken. There cannot be enough money gained from Haiti to make the exercise worth while; it is one thing when an Alderman sells zoning variances for a few hundred dollar bills, but this is something that cannot gain ral money more than a few pennies....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:49 AM
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8. Indeed, Sir.
The cheapness of it has always amazed me too.
It is one thing to be a prostitute. It is another to
be a cheap prostitute, and I mean no disrespect to
honest whores.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:52 AM
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9. Like a dysfunctional relative,
the US has got its hands in many, many turbulent situations around the globe.

Well, now it's our baby. We walked in. We ousted Aristide at gunpoint. The least we can do is restore order in Haiti now.

We owe them that, at least.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 03:57 AM
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10. I've been saying it since Reagan was in office
These people are NOT politicians. They are Corporate Pirates! No morals, no convictions, no ethics, just blood lust for the Almighty Dollar! They make me sick and I think of them as LESS than the cockroaches that scuttle around in dark places.
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