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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:15 PM
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CNN Poll: More Americans Prefer Democratic Policies
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 10:17 PM by Hissyspit
Source: CNN

Poll: More Americans prefer Democratic policies
December 23, 2009 9:39 p.m. EST

Washington (CNN) -- Despite the bruising battle over their proposals to overhaul health care, congressional Democrats have maintained an advantage over their Republican counterparts on one key measure, according to a new national poll.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released Wednesday indicates that a bare majority of Americans, 51 percent, believe that the Democrats' policies are good for the country, with 46 percent saying that those policies would take the U.S. in the wrong direction.

Fifty-three percent of people questioned in the poll said the GOP's polices would move the nation in the wrong direction, with 42 percent saying Republican policies are good for the country. "The numbers for both parties are virtually unchanged since late August, just before President Barack Obama's health care speech to Congress opened the latest round of debate on this divisive issue," said Keating Holland, CNN's polling director.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/23/poll.parties.policy/index.html
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:19 PM
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1. That will change when insurance premiums go up as a result of the bill
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 10:22 PM by brentspeak
A universal public option would have ushered in a new era of Democratic party dominance. Now the opposite will happen.

:banghead:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:21 PM
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3. I wonder who's gonna be the new goofball Raygun to sweep the nation. nt
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:26 PM
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4. I was thinking Romney, as the GOP establishment still seems to be in love with him
But a public that'll be po'd over ObamaCare won't take too kindly to the architect of the original corporate health care scam.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:38 PM
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6. Robme isn't 'accessible' enough for the masses. He's not likeable. nt
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 03:30 AM
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18. Romney will be a tough sell: as Letterman said, ''You look like the guy who fired me.''
He looks like everybody's asshole, corporate zombie boss.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:43 AM
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25. I need eyeglasses. At first, I read that as "Lieberman said." What was I thinking?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:51 AM
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27. If Lieberman criticized someone, that would be a good sign.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:31 AM
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23. Governors don't pass health care legislation.
An overwhelmingly Democratic Massachusetts state legislature passed "Romneycare"--and Ted Kennedy jawboned both sides until they agreed.

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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 07:30 AM
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20. Just Curious...
If this bill passes and Obama signs it into law...And lets say 7-10 years from now Health Insurance premiums have been lowered do you think we will see the popular threads section full apologies to the Democratic Party & President Obama? Or will the majority simply say they supported the bill from the start?

I know most will say regardless of what anyone says it won't lower premiums...But what if it does? Will many here be willing to admit they were wrong is all I am asking.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 07:35 AM
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21. Let's go back to the 80's
in California. The state legislature (with LOTS and LOTS of money from the insurance lobby) decided, in their great wisdom, that EVERYBODY needed to carry auto insurance. Because more people were insured, our premiums would go down, they told us. So they passed the mandated insurance law. What happened? The people who couldn't afford insurance before still couldn't afford it and continued to drive uninsured. Guess what happened to the premiums for the rest of us? They went UP!

Fool me once . . .
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:41 AM
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24. Did you see a lot of threads apologizing to posters who said Obama would sign
any health care bill that crossed his desk, whether or not it contained a public option?

How about threads from those who insisted the monopoly exemption would end and the abortion language would go, admitting they were wrong?

Oh, I see. It goes only one way.

Some posters think this is about Obama and/or the Democratic Party and some posters think this is about the American people. And another group apparently thinks this is about what does or does not get posted at DU.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:19 PM
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2. K&R
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:36 PM
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5. 51% is worth crowing about? How far we have fallen.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:24 PM
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29. Exactly what I was thinking..
... compared to the complete worthlessness of the Bush administration, we're worth a 5% spread. I expect this to drop to 2% after the "HCR" is done.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:41 PM
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7. That'll get even worse when the public finds out what's in this "insurance reform" bill. n/t

Kill the bill.


Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.

:dem:

-Laelth
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:47 PM
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8. Hey, if Democrats actually GOVERNED like they talk, they'd win by landslides
now that's a thought...
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:48 PM
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9. This bill may give them 30 million+ more votes for the Dems.
Let's be serious, that's the real reason the GOP doesn't want this bill to pass.
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:58 PM
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10. Speculative
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 12:00 AM by WileEcoyote
Have to measure the public response. Too soon to tell. If the mandates are perceived as a "tax increase" (probably true) this could hurt democrats.

Or if the perception is that more previously uninsured people are entering health care this could be good.

It is passing a mediocre/bad bill vs being perceived as a "do nothing" Congress.

Then the other idea is that health care "reform" in any form could be a "foot in the door" for future REAL REFORM which will effectively kill what is left of the GOP.

The Republican Party is in bad shape. Worse, much worse off than the Dems. GOP's are embracing the most extreme of rhetoric and even chosen to be associated with the John Birchers. A group I thought had gone out with white spat shows...

Prediction: REAL REFORM of health care will occur in Obama's second term. He knows this and is planning accordingly.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:22 AM
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11. I share your prediction.
He's playing politics. If he get's a second and last term, I believe we will see a much more progressive Obama,one that cater's much more to the left, liberals/progressives. A big percentage of this country are moderates left/right. He's catering to the moderates at this time. A 2nd term would be a silver bullet to the GOP, and they have been trying like rabid savage hyena's not to become extinct.
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:34 AM
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12. Share MY opinion???`
That's scary. Because I don't know what the pphuck I'm talking about...
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:02 AM
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14. I don't know if you actually had an opinion but...
You definitely had a prediction.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 08:20 AM
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22. We really need to institute a
truth-in-username policy on this board. :eyes:
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:35 AM
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13. Unchanged since August?
So, the HCR nay-sayers talking about upheaval are making stuff up?
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shades Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:20 AM
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15. Anyone really surprised?
Of course more support Democrats than Republicans. Why would working people vote against their own interests? It is amazing how skillful Republicans can maintain the amount of support they get. Scare tactics and dividing people works on many, but not the majority.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 01:31 AM
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16. They still remember Clinton?
:shrug:
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 03:19 AM
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17. I can't believe it! What the fuck is wrong with people?
Edited on Thu Dec-24-09 03:20 AM by LaPera
Republicans have only three policies - Tax cuts for the wealthy & corporations, deregulation for the the corporations and world imperialism (wars for stealing resources & weapons makers) for the corporations...

No wonder why the republicans can stick together - their policy is a simple one....more profits for corporations - And all the corporations have to do is pay off the Dems & republicans in congress to keep it all rolling.

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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:27 AM
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26. You are 3000% right


I think that the problem is that all the problems in the US that CAN be solved by the GOP ideas HAVE been solved by them since 1980.

All the problems now either CANNOT be solved by the things you mention, OR have been caused by Republican rule like the wars and the debt.

So when the public hears the GOP saying they can solve problems it's like "why didn't you when you totally controlled the country??"

One reason I think that the Obama admin is so able to sell out the progressives and suck up to business, is that they know this.There is really nobody in the GOP with any charisma, nor is there anyone with any good ideas.

Even stuff like the corrupting influence of money and the deficit which are two issues that have traction are sort of hurt by Abramoff scandal and by the fact that the only president in recent years to erase the deficit was a DEMOCRAT.

The reason that it's still close is the lock the GOP used to hold on the media and the message before there were liberal news shows or the internet. So there are some GOP'ers who will never support the dems. If Obama and the Dems leave the gun issue alone though I expect to see a significant % age of rural voters swing to the democrats and then the margin will be wider. Not sure if that will be 2012 or later.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 03:46 AM
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19. They were only polled on the two party monopoly as usual
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 10:06 PM
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28. Too bad our Democrats are too timid to advance Democratic policies.
They are so accustomed to giving conservatives whatever they want, that they don't even seem to realize they can start actually advancing the Democratic platform now.

If there has ever been a time when they should boldly push liberal legislation, it is now, yet they don't realize that yet and they tell liberals to STFU.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 08:07 PM
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30. This is perfectly understandable
which is why the Democrats are doing what they are doing
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