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Dulcinea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:00 PM Original message |
Semenya to keep gold; gender tests to remain private |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. I feel very sorry for her as well.. |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Doesn't the world already know "she" is a man with internal testes? |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Brilliant deduction.... |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. If you're producing testosterone at an abnormally high rate for a woman |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Delete, wrong spot |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Define abnormally. The hormone levels are on a continuum, you know. nt |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Outside the accepted range for a woman? nt |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. You need a number. "accepted range" does not work. nt |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. 15 to 70 ng./dl. nt |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
60. Good. Now you just need to tell all women outside this range that they can't compete. Or, |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I'm fairly certain if they're outside the range than steroid tests |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Caster Semenya's testes are not vestigial - they are undescended |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Yes, those are the facts, folks. |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Just suck it up. She keeps the gold. nt |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 04:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
57. Undescended testes, that are not corrected surgically can become cancerous |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
8. So basically they're admitting he's a man. |
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soleiri (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. she. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Biologically he is a male.... |
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soleiri (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. From what I understand |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Her functioning sexual organs are male... |
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Threedifferentones (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
59. Functioning? |
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deadmessengers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. says who? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. It's hard to remember; the goalposts were moving all over the place on this one. (nt) |
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soleiri (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. By outside I meant |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. so, post-menopausal women and women who cannot conceive are not female? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Explain? |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. first, that's not the arguement you made. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. My initial post was based on if someone had functioning |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. God almighty, it must be nice to live in a world with no shades of gray. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Genetics doesn't offer much in that area. |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Science says you're wrong. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. The links you cite make my point.... |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. No, they don't. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. No, gender is a pair of chromosomes... |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. No, it isn't |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Deleted message |
sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. You're repeating yourself enough |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Why would anyone alert? |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 07:18 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. yeah, I'm with you |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. If you say so... |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. "boo-hoo" |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I'm not crying... |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. I agree with you. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. Still can't reconcile your own info you've provided.. |
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soleiri (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. wrong |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Yes... |
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soleiri (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. If you found out that your sister had AIS |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I would probably call him by his name. |
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soleiri (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. okay, you're kidding right? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I couldn't just say... |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Because there isn't. :/ nt |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. There isn't? |
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soleiri (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. please |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. If that were the issue.... |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. She has no womb nor ovaries |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
55. Look, if you want to talk about gender identity and competitive sports... |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. Honestly, it was neither... |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. THIS. SO #$@&ING MUCH, THIS. |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Is there no end to your fail? nt |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Ouch... |
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soleiri (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. Before accusing others of not using logic |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. You have it the opposite way around.... |
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soleiri (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Is anyone arguing that she should be allowed to compete? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. That is an excellent question... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. Deleted sub-thread |
TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. Keep the tests private....after everyone knows the results? |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
34. there are so many sexual fuckups naturally. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
61. will she be able to compete in the olympics in 2012...? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
62. Sad that the world's obsession with entertainment (and yes, sports are entertainment) |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. That is actually an excellent point.... |
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