Palin’s Exxon Valdez account draws guffaws

[sabra]

Source: Reuters

<snip>

Now, add Alaskan experts who were involved in the case over the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster saying her account over her role in the litigation is distorted for a number of reasons.

In the book, Palin claims to have helped the fishermen, Alaska Natives and other individuals suing Exxon over spill damages prevail in their legal case.

“It took years for Alaska to achieve victory. As governor, I directed our attorney general to write an amicus brief in the case, and, thanks to Alaska’s able attorneys arguing in front of the highest court in the land, in 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of the people,” she writes in her book. “Finally, Alaskans could recover some of their losses.”

But Palin’s claims of victory for the plaintiffs and of playing a role in achieving that victory are highly distorted, said the chief attorney for the approximately 32,000 plaintiffs that sued Exxon over damages from the worst oil-tanker spill in U.S. waters.

“That is the most cockamamie bullshit,” said Dave Oesting of Anchorage, lead plaintiff attorney in the private litigants’ civil case against Exxon and its successor, Exxon Mobil Corp. “She didn’t have a damn thing to do with it, and she didn’t know what it was about.”

Read more: http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2009/11/18/palins-exxon-valdez-account-draws-guffaws/

[joeybee12]

1. OMG! She lied!

Who woulda thunk??????

[BOSSHOG]

4. She's the greatest Red Sox Fan Ever

She directed the Alaska Attorney General to write an amicus brief on the Red Sox. You betcha.

[joeybee12]

26. How DARE you mention Red Sox and Palin in the same breath!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[BOSSHOG]

2. sarah likes saying amicus.

[Roland99]

19. She thinks Amicus was the title character in To Kill a Mockingbird

And she should know. She killed a mockingbird once...from a helicopter.

[PatrynXX]

60. she's not that good of a shot! n/t

[Soylent Brice]

64. heh heh.

[MurrayDelph]

72. No, she thinks that Amicus

was Darth Vader's real name.

[llmart]

76. LOLOLO......

now that's a good one:)

[KatyaR]

28. Or "brief . . . ."

[Left Coast2020]

31. She was wearing briefs?

:shrug:

[KatyaR]

34. "Amicus 'brief'" . . .

and I'm not touching that question with a 10-foot Palin . . . .

[AlbertCat]

41. She was wearing Atticus Finch's briefs?

She might as well have written that. It makes more sense than the stuff she did write.

Or I should say her ghost writer wrote. I'll bet she (the ghost writer) had a cramped jaw from stifling laughs by the minute as she wrote. Then she laughed all the way to the bank.

What a tool Palin is!

[The Doctor.]

66. Oh.... that's what all those young people are wearing in the A+F ads.

I had no idea it was Atticrombie and Finch.

So she likes that stuff? Isn't she a little old?

[Bozita]

44. Times are tough. I can't afford them designer briefs.

[struggle4progress]

54. No, Amicu was: that's why it says "Amicus briefs" -- because they belonged to Amicu

[stlsaxman]

46. Does Todd wear Amicus briefs?

[Blue_In_AK]

3. Woo-hoo, Dave Oesting!

Calling it like it was. Sarah did NOTHING for the victims of the EXXON VALDEZ, couldn't even name that case as one of the Supreme Court rulings she had issues with. Or maybe she didn't have issues with it -- it sounds like it was all hunky-dory to her that the Roberts court basically stabbed Alaskans in the back.

[Botany]

13. bingo

I thought it was Alaska v Exxon but it was Exxon v Baker ...... she couldn't name the large case ever in the history of Alaska in front
of the SCOTUS ..... not only did Palin not write her book but I doubt she has read it either.

[bejamin wood]

5. Smells like Reagan more and more

...remembering things that did not happen and forgetting that which did.

[mac56]

7. And just like Reagan -

who regularly took credit for things he had NO influence upon.

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

22. +10

[KamaAina]

15. But MUCH cuter

:P

[Turborama]

50. EW! Palin is anything but "cute"

She's ugly inside and out!

[Webster Green]

52. I don't get why anyone finds her attractive.

She makes me want to puke. She's fucking goofy looking IMO. :puke:

[Roland99]

61. Her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

And she speaks with an inherent condescending tone.

[LisaM]

6. THANK YOU THANK YOU for posting this

I just got some rigamarole email about how great she was on this issue from one of my friends who is constantly sending me this type of drivel because he wants to "make me think". He doesn't even believe half of what he sends, though I will say he reads what I send back.

[BlueIdaho]

8. That Woman

Is a one woman bullshit breeder reactor.

[InfiniteThoughts]

59. the most dangerous reactor in the world isn't in Iran ... it's in alaska ...

[KansDem]

9. “That is the most cockamamie bullshit..."

...said Dave Oesting of Anchorage, lead plaintiff attorney in the private litigants’ civil case

Give it to us straight, Mr. Oesting, and leave out the legalese...

[Raschel]

10. The reactions to Palin's book are so telling. "Bizarre", "cockamamie", etc..

[Ignis]

32. ...

:spray:

We could do with a few more lawyers who speak plainly, like Mr. Oesting. :patriot:

[peacetalksforall]

35. I hope 'cockamamie bs' catches on - a phrase from the past..

Speaking of 'past' - she sure has a problem with the past. The $50,000 accusation is a good one. Didn't she know that is she said that and McCain rebuts that it was her bill for her legal problems in Alaska - that she would resurrect the entire crisis. She is really thick in the head.

[Skittles]

42. MY KIND OF MAN

yes INDEED :thumbsup:

[Mad_Dem_X]

63. I love it! Telling it like it is!

:rofl:

[Blue_Tires]

67. I'm surprised Reuters included the word uncensored

[Chulanowa]

71. It's Alaska - that IS the legalese!

It's a fun place to go if you want to learn how to cuss.

[Tempest]

11. The Supreme Court decision was a HUGE LOSS for Alaskans

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/26/world/americas/26iht-alaska.4.14027236.html

Across Alaska, plaintiffs in the long-running lawsuit against Exxon reacted to the decision with sorrow and rage, numbed only by relief that their legal saga is finally over.

"This decision is a giant cold slap in the face," said Garland Blanchard, 59, a third-generation fisherman who said he had lost his marriage along with his two fishing boats, house, cat and dog to financial pressures caused by the spill. Blanchard expects to receive less than $100,000 from the settlement, down from the $1.2 million he had previously expected.

...

"Our lives and businesses have been destroyed and we get basically nothing," he said. "It's pathetic."

...

The city of Homer was prepared to place the $4 million to $5 million it was to receive in an endowment to help pay for social services, said Walt Wrede, the city manager.

Now the city will receive a fraction of that amount.

"This is a very depressing verdict," Wrede said, "and people here are just really disappointed."

[Tempest]

12. Palin was against the decision before she was for it

After the Supreme Court ruled, Gov. Palin was critical of the outcome. “I am extremely disappointed with today’s decision by the U.S. Supreme Court,” she was quoted as saying. “While the decision brings some degree of closure to Alaskans suffering from 19 years of litigation and delay, the Court gutted the jury’s decision on punitive damages.” She also said, “It is tragic that so many Alaska fishermen and their families have had their lives put on hold waiting for this decision. My heart goes out to those affected, especially the families of the thousands of Alaskans who passed away while waiting for justice.”

[Beaverhausen]

29. nevermind

found it

[AlbertCat]

43. My heart goes out to those affected,

Then...after saying what she was told to say but didn't understand, she went home to find Levi naked in her kitchen drinking out of the milk carton while her daughter showered..... and didn't get that either.

[superconnected]

14. Like she's ever uttered anything that didn't have guffaws in it.

The woman is a walking fact flaw.

[Jackpine Radical]

16. In what respect, Charlie?

(Somebody had to say it.)

[superconnected]

17. Muhahahahahah. Truth is, she should keep opening her mouth and sticking her foot in it.

:). I love the consistency we get from her.

[chollybocker]

18. “That is the most cockamamie bullshit,...”

Quote of the Month, right there.

[Canuckistanian]

20. Yeah that was good

You don't hear lawyers say that very often.

[LuckyLib]

37. "Cockamamie bullshit" should have been uttered when some idiot proposed her as a running mate for

McCain. Then again, it has been one delicious ride of absurdity!

[GoddessOfGuinness]

48. In the "new words" department, cockamamiebullshit is much more interesting

than teabagger.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

68. and in Reuters, too

I was surprised to see that, even if it was in a blog.

[Hubert Flottz]

21. She's also able to leap tall buildings in a single bound...

Faster than a speeding bullet...
More powerful than a locomotive...
Look up in the sky it's _______ _______(fill in the blank)

EDIT...Bends steel with her bare hands...

[Altoid_Cyclist]

58. She could probably bend steel with that voice of hers alone.

Her voice sends me running for the remote.

The worst part is that I'm afraid that the corporate media will keep her image and screeching nails on a chalkboard voice front and center until 2012.

What a CWOHL (complete waste of human life).

[rambler_american]

62. Sarah Palin

A legend in her own mind.

[Cass]

23. Haha, Dave Oesting doesn't mince words!

Has the msm reported any the lies contained in this book of hers? They should.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

24. Palin defined in two words.

"cockamamie bullshit"

It's bloody perfect.

[beac]

25. "cockamamie bullshit" is quite a good description of all that Sarah Palin is and does.

Bravo, Mr. Oesting! :applause:

[MichaelHarris]

27. would this be

one of the Supreme Court cases she couldn't name?

[L. Coyote]

30. The history of "cockamamie bullshit"

the French décalcomanie, which was created in the early 1860s to refer to the craze for decorating objects with transfers (it combines décalquer, to transport a tracing, with manie, a mania or craze). The craze, and the word, soon transferred to Britain — it’s recorded in the magazine The Queen on 27 February 1864: “There are few employments for leisure hours which for the past eighteen months have proved either so fashionable or fascinating as decalcomanie”. It reached the United States around 1869 and — to judge from the number of newspaper references in that year — became as wildly popular as it had earlier in France and Britain. The word was quickly Anglicised as decalcomania and in the 1950s it became abbreviated to decal.

The link between decalcomania and cockamamie isn’t proved, but the evidence suggests strongly that children in New York City in the 1930s (or perhaps a decade earlier) converted the one into the other. There was a fashion for self-decoration at that period, using coloured transfers given away with candy and chewing gum. Shelly Winters wrote of cockamamie in The New York Times in 1956 that “This word, translated from the Brooklynese, is the authorized pronunciation of decalcomania. Anyone there who calls a cockamamie a decalcomania is stared at.”

Quite how the word changed sense to mean something incredible is least clear of all. An early sense was of something inferior or second-rate, which presumably referred to the poor quality of the cheap transfers. It might have been influenced by words such as cock-and-bull or poppycock. Anyone who adopted the craze for sticking transfers on oneself may have been regarded by adults or more serious-minded youngsters as silly — certainly the first sense was of a person who was ridiculous or crazy .....

http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-coc1.htm

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[Janice325]

36. Oh my!!

"cockamamie bullshit," and “She didn’t have a damn thing to do with it, and she didn’t know what it was about.”

It's very refreshing for someone to actually tell it like it is. I'm very impressed with Mr. Oesting's comments.

k&r

[UTUSN]

38. K&R #63 (I've never been this number), for FICTION!1 n/t

[sunnybrook]

39. wasn't she practing her pageant walk when this went down?

I spent about a year in Alaska in the early nineties and it was a big topic of discussion... where was she? I see the disclaimer that it "took a long time" is appropriate. She is certifiable...

[benld74]

40. Hell, I can recall THAT Supreme Court travesty,,

I thought ANOTHER ONE for BIG BUSINESS and DAMN THE PEOPLE

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[Harry Monroe]

47. I was having a beer with a friend of mine earlier tonight

And the subject of Palin came up. She is also a liberal like me and we both agreed that if this woman somehow won the 2012 Presidential election that we were both renouncing our American citizenship and moving up to Canada!!

[Haole Girl]

49. I really wish I hadn't read this while eating

:-(

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[rooboy]

53. And then Sarah said "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" n/t

[merh]

55. Remember when Couric asked her about a Supreme Court

opinion and she couldn't name one - not even the Valdez opinion which was handed down in June of 2008 and the interview was had at the end of September, beginning of October, 2008. :rofl:

===================

Couric: What other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?

Palin: Hmmm, Well, let’s see. There’s — of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there’s never going to be absolute consensus by every American. And there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but — — .

Couric: Can you think of any?

Palin: Blah, blah, the law of the land as it reads today.

====================

She is a liar and worse, she believes her own lies.


For kicks and giggles, the Couric interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rXmuhWrlj4

[47of74]

56. I feel like someone has taken a drill and is using it on the bridge of my nose

Of course I feel that way 99.99999999996 percent of the time she comes up in the news.

[Enthusiast]

57. Why am I not surprised?

I've seen this movie before. It was called G W Bush 2000 to 2008.

[sasquuatch55]

65. More attempts by Rethugs to rewrite history!

nt

[Cha]

69. "The Odd Lies of sarah palin" by Andrew Sullivan

<snip>

"After you have read these, ask yourself: what wouldn't Sarah Palin lie about if she felt she had to?

Palin lied when she said the dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, had nothing to do with his refusal to fire state trooper Mike Wooten; in fact, the Branchflower Report concluded that she repeatedly abused her power when dealing with both men.

Palin lied when she repeatedly claimed to have said, "Thanks, but no thanks" to the Bridge to Nowhere; in fact, she openly campaigned for the federal project when running for governor.

Palin lied when she denied that Wasilla's police chief and librarian had been fired; in fact, both were given letters of termination the previous day.

Palin lied when she wrote in the NYT that a comprehensive review by Alaska wildlife officials showed that polar bears were not endangered; in fact, email correspondence between those scientists showed the opposite.

Palin lied when she claimed in her convention speech that an oil gas pipeline "began" under her guidance; in fact, the pipeline was years from breaking ground, if at all.

Palin lied when she told Charlie Gibson that she does not pass judgment on gay people; in fact, she opposes all rights between gay spouses and belongs to a church that promotes conversion therapy.

Palin lied when she denied having said that humans do not contribute to climate change; in fact, she had previously proclaimed that human activity was not to blame.

Palin lied when she claimed that Alaska produces 20 percent of the country's domestic energy supply; in fact, the actual figures, based on any interpretation of her words, are much, much lower.

Palin lied when she told voters she improvised her convention speech when her teleprompter stopped working properly; in fact, all reports showed that the machine had functioned perfectly and that her speech had closely followed the script.

Palin lied when she recalled asking her daughters to vote on whether she should accept the VP offer; in fact, her story contradicts details given by her husband, the McCain campaign, and even Palin herself. (She later added another version."

<more>
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/11/the-odd-lies-of-sarah-palin-a-roundup.html

[RoccoR5955]

70. Pwn3d, AGAIN!

I hope that people are starting to realize that Caribou Barbie is nothing more than a pathological narccissist.

[rurallib]

73. She wouldn't know an amicus brief from a Hanes brief.

somebody had to tell her that sounded good.

[Aviation Pro]

74. Define amicus brief, fuckwit....

...was that your vocabulary word for the day, dumbfuck?

[TexasObserver]

75. Recommend