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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:17 PM Original message |
Aides: Obama Not Demanding Government-Run Option |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. CNN is running a headline that says |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. BOHICA |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Well, the unRec cohort sure love it when you give them attention. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
227. A DOUBLE BOHICA!! That's How I've Felt For Many, Many Years!! |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #227 |
241. Isn't that what's called a "bait and switch"? nt |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #241 |
244. I DO Believe You Have It Correct! n/t |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #28 |
231. His cheerleaders will find a way - ANY WAY - to spin favorably the unfavorable, no matter |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. The word "compromise" to Democrats means: screw over their base. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. A Rose By Any Other Name... |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Compromise, surrender, whatever. nt |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
97. I think the term you're looking for is |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
208. We are the majority of the Dem party.... |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #208 |
275. The problem is that 100% of the Dems cannot win an election . . . |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
153. Well put. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
109. Compromise? To whom and for what reason? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:13 AM Response to Reply #109 |
155. Who is Senator Baucus, Alex? |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
250. it is just a matter of time and we are indeed screwed by congress and the WH. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. I guess we should have supported the HELP Bill |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. What are you talking about? The AFL-CIO and HCAN |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. In my town, they're fighting for single payer |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. It's hard to know where to begin to counter the fallacies in that view |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #36 |
145. HCAN and the unions are helpful |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #145 |
151. President Obama needs to go directly to the American people and |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:42 AM Response to Reply #151 |
164. When will the American People respond? |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #164 |
229. When Will The american People Respond??? Hard To Understand Why That |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #164 |
274. Americans have responded in polls and on the streets. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:47 AM Response to Reply #145 |
166. His position has not changed: He likes the public option AND will sign a bill that has none. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:11 AM Response to Reply #166 |
169. Because there isn't enough visible support |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:12 AM Response to Reply #169 |
186. Oh, just give me a fucking break |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #169 |
217. Self Delete |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #166 |
272. No |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 06:12 AM Response to Reply #145 |
192. "We" let legislation get bogged down? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #192 |
256. June - HELP Legislation was attacked |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #192 |
271. This is what I get in my email |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #271 |
283. Supporting Single-Payer does NOT hurt the public option, as has been pointed out to you many times |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #283 |
291. It's A Waste Of Time And Confuses People |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 07:17 AM Response to Reply #291 |
295. I am not "pretending" anything - and your characterization of "disruptive" |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #145 |
198. Your constant "Obama is god " attitude is coming to a head, now isn't it? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #198 |
254. Pfft, you do this to everybody |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #254 |
260. Aren't you going to get in trouble from the other bots????? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
69. umm. 75% of doctors support single payer. almost equal number of citizens. bitching? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #69 |
143. Not even pnhp has those figures |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 06:42 AM Response to Reply #143 |
195. that's not right |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #195 |
255. single payer, that's what I responded to n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:17 AM Response to Reply #12 |
156. And politicians don't understand that those fighting for single payer prefer a |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:40 AM Response to Reply #156 |
162. It's about creating momentum |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:48 AM Response to Reply #162 |
167. I know you believe what you say, but I think you are mistaken. And we won in 2000. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #156 |
199. Exactly and obviously so - except to those who want to make "the left" |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
152. And why doesn't the president have to "fight for it" ? Why isn't his fight |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. Poorly written, poorly sourced story with misinformation and misleading |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Only David Axelrod And Valerie Jarett - Not Like They're Actual Aides |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. Where's the beef? Do you have any evidence to back up your multiple claims? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
157. The NYT is not a good enough source to start a thread a DU? What is, then? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #157 |
204. Only articles that say nice things about Obama are accurate. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
245. Sorry but you can't hide the truth-the RECS are kicking ass! |
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Ed76638 (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. If it's the best possible option.. |
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jeffbr (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Can't be "demanding"... Gotta ask POLITELY, and SILENTLY - and make it OPTIONAL like |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Because.... |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
67. He sure does. I'm fed up with his pretty speeches. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Maybe if we were "starting from scratch" |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #74 |
102. What are his priorities anyway? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:31 AM Response to Reply #102 |
173. Re-Election? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:26 AM Response to Reply #20 |
158. IMO, he stopped talking center left once he won the primaries. Now, he talks about his "friends on |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
37. +1 |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. careful.... rage will hurt you more than them, biologically. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Ah, The Un-Reccers Have Their Way |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. With extra pickles and no lettuce. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
122. Deleted message |
placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
7. since I got locked for criticizing Obama supporters |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. How much would a public option cost an individual? n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 06:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
197. A lot less than a mandate with no public option will cost him or her. |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #197 |
234. yep - single payer ABSOLUTELY makes the most sense economically. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Add to that the idiots that support a soda tax |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Those people just have to realize.... |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. Keep in mind the news is trash. We don't know what is really going to happen. |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. It's not the timee to wait. It's the time to fight. Call your Senators tomorrow, esp. Reid. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
289. +1 and if democracy is of, for and by the people, we need to get busy |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:33 AM Response to Reply #54 |
159. When was the last successful general strike in America? |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. Wait for the damn fat lady! It is not over till it is over. nt |
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Left Coast2020 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
127. Thank you.. Geeze. Everybody is getting all worked up over |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:22 AM Response to Reply #127 |
171. Bumbling comment? Where have you been? |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
10. That's our good old Prez Milquetoast for you |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. +1 |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
70. If this is true, I have two words for Obama: One Termer |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. So the republicans can take over again? |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #76 |
100. "You people"? |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #100 |
138. Yeah, YOU PEOPLE! |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #138 |
149. Bush didn't even win one term. He stole the election twice. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:16 AM Response to Reply #138 |
187. He stole both terms |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #138 |
247. And I'm sick of you people |
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Pab Sungenis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
111. Again, better someone who will spit in your face |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #111 |
139. Hahaha. That's tough talk. We'll see how bad you are if Obama |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:44 AM Response to Reply #139 |
165. Another war? Besides the two we're in now? |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:31 PM Response to Reply #165 |
292. Yeah. Like with Iran. You know, that country |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #139 |
224. Rahm? |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #224 |
293. You WILL fall in line on election day or pay the price. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:41 AM Response to Reply #76 |
163. I let my emotions influence my political decisions when I donated more than the legal limit to Obama |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #76 |
243. Whose fault will that be? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:36 AM Response to Reply #10 |
161. Self Delete. |
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jeffbr (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. So all that noise against the insurance companies was bullshit! |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. not necessarily... we could be duped into thinking so... calm down and watch. |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. In other words what's new |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
15. Obama is a huge disappointment here and the Democrats |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
16. Would someone please unrec this for me? I clicked on the wrong button and rec'd it |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I just rec'd so that people get to see the upcoming betrayal in all its glory |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
93. Deleted message |
DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #93 |
118. Wow - reading comprehension is not your strong suit. nt |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
136. What consummate gaul |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. i just rec'd on your behalf as well. nt |
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t0dd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. rec'd it for you! nt |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. Rec'd it just for you! n/t |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
77. Done. I'm sick of these crybabies. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:27 AM Response to Reply #77 |
172. Those on the left discuss the issues. Those on the right post personal comments |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #77 |
205. Is this your dramatic exit? n/t |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
137. I rec'd it in your honor n/t |
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Claire Beth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
21. no, he never promised a public option... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. He did promise a deal to PhRMA |
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chadmak09 (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
110. yes he did. |
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Claire Beth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #110 |
218. NO, he did NOT promise a public option.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
123. Deleted message |
MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. Absolutely Did Promise One - Here's A Link |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
79. Yes he did and he said there would be "no closed door secret hearings." |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #79 |
248. Just less than 3 months ago he said that. |
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Claire Beth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #35 |
219. No...he endorsed the NEED for a public option... |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. He certainly did promise it. And even if he hadn't made an explicit promise (which he did)... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
82. He never wawawawawa - whatever. This pay-or-punish crapsurance is a screw you-s-a! |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
112. There's little in this plan to make it affordable |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:06 AM Response to Reply #112 |
168. It's a bonanza for the insurance companies. That's no joke. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
121. Pay or be punished ain't "affordable and accessible health care". |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
128. Yes, Obama Campaigned on a Public Option / firedoglake |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #128 |
228. +1 nt |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
23. All that matters is that they get something to hold costs down |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
101. As long as the health insurance companies are running the show |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
25. If the Dems fail on public option..... |
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chadmak09 (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
135. yep |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:16 AM Response to Reply #135 |
170. Maybe because Daschle was one of his campaign advisors? |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. Well Obama is clearly demanding the PO or something like the PO to drive down costs |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
59. nice way to make us sick if we fall for it. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #27 |
211. we don't need a damn article..his "people" were on all the Sunday shows ..saying he would not demand |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
29. I don't believe one word of that article. n/t |
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TexasEditor (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. It's the Associated Press, and they're biased against Democrats. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Not true! |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. It would sinful, shameful, and world wide embarrassment if the people of American do not get |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
85. Your sarcasm suggests that you're opposed to any public health insurance option.. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Including this word .... "President"? That would make you a fool! |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. I do not believe that the President has 'abandoned' the |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
87. I believe he is prepared to abandon a strong public option rather than .... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:38 AM Response to Reply #48 |
174. You're right No change. He favors a public option--or so he says-- but will sign a bill without one. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
214. You don't have to ..go watch the Meet the Press show from yesterday on their web site and hear it |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #214 |
280. What IS clear to me is since he's taken office I can't count |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
43. Once this clusterfuck of private ins.reform is over |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
80. I shudder to think what will come out of the next bill for energy given this Health Care fiasco... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
45. Jarrett made some great points |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #45 |
220. Meet the press Transcript and video: president's senior adviser Valerie Jarrett. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
46. Why don't people get that it might be impossible -- IMPOSSIBLE -- for him to deliver it? |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. +1 |
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IRemember (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Guess it was impossible to put single payer on the table at the beginning too. nt |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. No, but it was impossible for Single Payer to get anywhere or shift the negotiations leftwards. |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. children are dependent on parents. We are not dependent on our government. If we were, we could |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Hahaha |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
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IRemember (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. So it was impossible to consider single payer as the process began |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
105. You can say what you want. All I know is that Social Security and Medicare |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #105 |
216. There is another explanation that is equally likely to be true |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
72. Then it should all be tabled |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
175. It is not impossible for him to fight for it tooth and nail. He has not done that. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #175 |
206. But if Obama fights for something, he might lose. Can't have that. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #46 |
221. But not impossible to spend billions more on 2 wars, and not impossible to bail out the banks and |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #221 |
253. +1 |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
49. K/R n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
51. This is crap . . . Democratic Party should be calling us out to demonstrate for single payer . . . |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
81. Only the Left has been urging any action and we are just supposed to trust the unions |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. No . . . it's the RIGHT which has been in the streets "teabagging" . . . |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #86 |
212. Why stop there? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #212 |
284. If Howard Dean is a "fake" send me a few more of them . . . !!! |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
91. The Democratic Party has never organized demonstrations or mass movements on any issue. |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
57. Can't say this surprising |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
61. Perhaps all of the doctors should start charging us $100 a month for any health care we need at any |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. We could all drop our policies if doctors would advise and prescribe on their own. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
89. They're all cowered by the militancy of medicine today, deadly chemical presciptions . .. |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Why bother with the whole profession then? Why not just |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #94 |
134. Those who have been harmed by the pharmaceutical industry certainly |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #134 |
146. thanks for the site! I'll check it out. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:34 AM Response to Reply #94 |
188. My brother certainly would have loved |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #188 |
285. Oh . . . situations like that just prove the inhumanity of our medical system and |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #285 |
290. Thanks for your concerned words |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #290 |
294. Understand . . . |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #94 |
257. Sure, follow your regimen |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
66. Yes and done. |
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CKennedy16 (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Hillary would have got this done. |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Oh Pleeeeeeeeeeeeez! |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
103. I will remember your name. I'm sure you have a great future here at DU. |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #103 |
261. Can't praise a Dem on DU? |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
115. Now that is comedy! |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
140. Shhhhh, you can't say that around here or they'll ban you. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #71 |
201. LOL. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #71 |
209. But she doesn't preach those pretty speechsermons about hope and change |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #71 |
225. *rofflemayo* |
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davidhilton (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
75. he's soon to lose my vote in 2012 n/t |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:44 AM Response to Reply #75 |
189. I hope you like President Palin. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
78. K/R and so forth. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
83. Mandatory pay-or-punish crapsurance is a screw you-s-a! No to the Baucus boondoggle. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
84. I am probably wrong but I cannot imagine a democrat stabbing the |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
88. We are officially being Mind Fucked |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. sound like the safest bet for our biology and physics to bear it well. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
90. Has anybody heard about a gov't option that individual states can choose or not choose? |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. I seriously doubt they would pass such legislation for the very reasons you point out. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:57 AM Response to Reply #90 |
176. Yes, we've heard, Let's not care about people in red states who die |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #176 |
222. Yeah. I was told by some of my fellow Dems that I was expendable the other day |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
92. O and Rahm threw us under the bus at the beginning of negations |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 03:58 AM Response to Reply #92 |
177. Obama took single payer off the table during the primaries--way before Rahm. |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
96. We will get a public option or universal health care in the end. Or we strike. No? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
104. no. |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
99. Big Insurance could NEVER have gotten this with Republicans in power. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 04:03 AM Response to Reply #99 |
178. Um, what? |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #99 |
263. No, because the Dems would fight it tooth and nail |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
106. K&R |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
107. they know they can do what ever they want because- |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #107 |
132. The "Who The Fuck Else Ya Gonna Vote For, Chump!" Strategy |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #132 |
264. They might be betting on the wrong horse |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #132 |
267. It may be true that there is no one else to vote for |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 04:07 AM Response to Reply #107 |
179. YES! The Republicrats ARE less evil than Demlicans! Or is it the other way around? I forget. |
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Pab Sungenis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
108. Once more, I TOLD YOU SO. |
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124. Deleted message |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #108 |
129. +10,000 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 04:12 AM Response to Reply #108 |
180. We all knew the Baucus Bill was an insurer's dream and those of us who are not |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #180 |
249. a lot of us tried but the writing was on the wall. damm. |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
113. Can you imagine if we had a majority and a Democrat President? |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #113 |
150. Maybe a polished turd |
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forum slut (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
114. fucking mandates. Might as well have elected Mitt Fucking Romney. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
116. Lesser of two evils... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 04:29 AM Response to Reply #116 |
182. "My friends on the left" and "the left of the left" did not come from Republican mouths. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 06:36 AM Response to Reply #182 |
193. No but it was put there by those who listen to them. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:30 AM Response to Reply #193 |
200. Obama and Rahm said those things. If you are suggesting they listen to Republicans, |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #200 |
207. No. They listen to those who make the money and pay the bills. |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
117. It's the Massachusetts miracle! |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
119. been reading for MONTHS that the p.o. is dead...day after day. it ain't over til it's over |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
130. When I heard the tough words |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
131. i am so disappointed. nt |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
133. Another unfortunate twist in history |
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excess_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #133 |
142. do we have 50 Senate votes for public option? ,nt |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:12 AM Response to Reply #142 |
154. I think we do |
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excess_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:34 AM Response to Reply #154 |
160. if so, Obama needs to the use the nuclear option |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 04:41 AM Response to Reply #160 |
183. Either that, or strong arm Democrats to vote down a fillibuster, regardless of how they |
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colsohlibgal (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
141. No Big Surprise |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
144. We will know soon enough, I don't trust what is reported from the media until I get |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
147. Very sad if true.. disappointing.. |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
148. "isn't demanding ... a government-run insurance option even though... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 04:23 AM Response to Original message |
181. My hope for change in health care is in the Progressive Caucus of the House of Representatives. |
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Jeep789 (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
184. Fact is - He never did promise one while campaigning |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:01 AM Response to Reply #184 |
185. See Reply # 35 and the other responses to Reply # 21. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
190. "Government-run" is a GOP turn of phrase. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 06:44 AM Response to Reply #190 |
196. I agree with you to the extent that AP is repeating old news. And AP is getting to repeat it |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
191. I need to hear it from the horses mouth... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 06:38 AM Response to Reply #191 |
194. Hear what from the horses' mouth? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #194 |
223. How could anyone take anything other than what you say from this? These are "Quotes" |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
202. fuck the obama admin-what more can you say |
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pmorlan1 (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
203. Reading between the lines |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #203 |
233. He's not demanding it because he's scared of them, I guess. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
210. Hasn't this always been his position? |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #210 |
213. Yes, I believe it always has been Obama's take-Not willing to spend political |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #213 |
215. Not willing to spend political capital on anything, apparently. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #210 |
235. Yes, Ever Since He Stopped Promising It |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
226. Has anyone else seen the newTV ad featuring Wendell Potter? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
230. The president has to sign whatever the congress brings him. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #230 |
236. Then Obama forfits much or most of his leverage |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #236 |
237. No, he won't, and should not, veto anything his party brings him. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #237 |
239. Without a public option how is it an improvement? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #239 |
258. No recission, no preexisting conditions, meaningful subsidies for the poor... |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #258 |
266. Coverage does not equal care |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #266 |
269. No it won't. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #269 |
273. In HR 3200 annual out of pockets are capped at $5,000 for a single |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #273 |
276. Affordability arguments are pointless |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #276 |
277. The reason costs are that high is because the for profit insurers have driven them up |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #277 |
278. I was not a math major... |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #278 |
279. I would disagree with "anything" |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #278 |
287. Assuming you have 11% of your income left after rent, utilities and other expenses |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #258 |
270. Thank you for the link , appears that Wendell Potter disagrees with you |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #237 |
240. The Baucus Bill Is Worse Than Nothing |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #237 |
281. If Obama wants to be reelected, he'd better veto a "mandatory insurance w/ no/little PO" Baucus bill |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #236 |
238. No harm in threatening a veto IMO |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #238 |
259. Don't threaten that which you can't deliver. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #259 |
262. Personally, I think the veto is worth it |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #262 |
288. +1 and if this is a trial balloon, let me burst it. We want the public option, period! |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #259 |
282. You don't happen to be employed by the insurance industry? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #282 |
286. You heard it here first. "Lumberjack's law" |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
232. If we don't get a strong public option, I'm out. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
242. Ex-Prez HW Bush praised Obama the other day-here's one reason why. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
246. Time for Pitchforks or Time to STOP Paying Taxes? nt |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
251. of course, the best possible solution is a "public option" run by the insurance companies . . . |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
265. Maybe it's time for another march on Washington |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
268. Mindfuck Alert |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
296. don't vote in november |
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