Women should vote … as instructed (By Men) : Karzai

[Khephra]

Women should vote … as instructed: Karzai

Afghan president says men should let women vote, but tell them who to vote for

Move is an attempt at compromise


KABUL (CP) - Afghan President Hamid Karzai offered Afghan men a trade today in an attempt to convince them to let their women vote in upcoming elections.

"Please, my dear brothers, let your wives and sisters go to the voter registration process," Karzai told a gathering to mark International Women's Day. "Later, you can control who she votes for, but please, let her go."

Karzai's plea set off a murmur in the crowd of about 500 women and illustrated the fragile grip the democratic process holds in Afghanistan.

"Now that is a bad idea," said Simi Nakbari, a teacher and mother whose husband reluctantly allowed her to attend the meeting.

"It doesn't seem like a very good interpretation of the rights we are working for. We can select which minister or warlord to vote for as well as anyone."

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[thebigidea]

1. bwhahahah! Well, we sure brought democracy to Afghanistan

say, Pickles - now would be a good time to come out and babble some bullshit about women's rights... oh, that's right - you could care less.

[Khephra]

2. I feel like Cassandra

Everything horrible that I saw is coming to pass.

Sigh....

[thebigidea]

11. we should start a Cassandra Complex Club.

Make a big neoclassical logo with the motto: "The Empire Never Ended"

Think of the t-shirt sales!

[Khephra]

19. I know we'd make a lot just off of DU

Sad to say.

[thebigidea]

20. actually, I'm surprised I haven't gotten into the t-shirt racket

Maybe its time to, just in time to plug the DVD. But Cafepress sucks! Or at least, it sucked when I tried it a few years back.

[Khephra]

23. I wish I knew how to make tee-shirts

:evilfrown:

[Cassandra]

24. As long as I get royalties...

I'd go along with that.;-)

[Khephra]

27. We were expecting your presence.

:evilgrin:

[thebigidea]

29. I have here in my hands a cease and desist letter addressed to you

from a certain Ancient Greek Prophetess... so, you thought could get away with copyright infringement for thousands of years, huh?

Well, from now on we communicate only through a wall of lawyers! See you in court!

[chiburb]

34. Ah yes, remember this?

"Those of us who were working against the war in the months before it began often felt ourselves laboring under Cassandra's curse. Apart from attacking the rationale, our major strategy was to remind people that war is always bad news. And in the months before the war, people didn't want to hear that. It was easier to believe in the prophecies coming out of Washington of a quick, painless victory followed by the warm welcome of a grateful populace and a swift transition to a democratic government that would be friendly to US interests. Many of us often wondered what was the matter with us that we couldn't sit back, relax, and accept that story, instead of being driven to tell the one we thought was true. We didn't, after all, appear to be changing anything. "

From a DU front pager:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/plaidder/04/12.html

[proud patriot]

3. I wish this would be talked about more

The right likes to claim they have
freed the women of Afganistan.

[private_ryan]

4. either that or no vote at all

Pick one. If she is involved in politics, she'l vote for whoever she wants and can lie. If not she'll probably vote the same as he does. They are at least 100 years behind so take all you can get.

[DuctapeFatwa]

6. Add some more zeros. It's about 10,000 years, and the west managed

to contain its outrage until Unocal wanted a pipeline.

[thebigidea]

15. the gift of freedom sometimes goes down hard, doesn't it.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

12. I can see it now:

Husband: Who did you vote for, inferior being?
Wife: XYZ, like you told me, o Lord and Master. (she did)
Husband: You're lying. You voted for that dirty reformist LMN. (peeks inside burqa) I see it in your eyes.
Wife: No, I did vote for X...
Husband: You're CONTRADICTING me???
Wife: No, I...
Husband: So you DID disobey me! Take THAT! (beat) (beat) (beat) (beat some more)

[private_ryan]

16. ok

remove the word vote and replace it with anything else. The beating and inferior being are still there. What did you win?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

17. I wasn't aware I was in a competition.

Not every bit of comentary is part of an ideological tug-of-war, you know.

[private_ryan]

32. sorry

I thought it was directed at me :)

[Vladimir]

21. I will sit in the back

because its better than walking.

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

V

[private_ryan]

31. keep walking

and puking at the same time then

[Vladimir]

41. Alternatively

refuse to be part of the viscious cabaret dished up to the western middle classes to make them feel better about the thousands of civilians that died for oil.

Afgan women are really going to feel nostalgic about Soviet rule by the time the West is done with them...

V

[noiretextatique]

35. 100 years behind...who?

here we pretend that eligible voters weren't purged from the rolls in florida. perhaps they will evolve to out level of cheating, lying and hypocrisy very soon.

[underpants]

5. Karzai is irrelevant even in Afghanistan (Time article)

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101040308/story.html


Hamid Karzai is lonely. He is huddled, as always, deep inside his presidential palace in Kabul, protected by towering stone walls, growling dogs and U.S. bodyguards. Visitors to the palace must undergo three separate body searches before passing through the arched gates, all under the gaze of trained marksmen standing sentry in a watchtower.

Later on the article an un-named special forces soldier says he would give KArzai two or three days to live if the US pulled out. He only "rules" his bunker.

[mmm]

7. Can I run for 'Warlord'?

How do I get on the ballot?

[underpants]

9. I am ______ and I am running for warlord and I approved this message

Fuuuuuuuuuuunny mmm

[northzax]

8. well, it's about damn time

someone said this. everyone knows that women can't be trusted to participate in democracy without male supervision.

[underpants]

14. Taliban? Michael Savage?

I believe Savage said the when women get in a voting booth they get a rush of estrogen and end up voting for liberals, something like that.

Thank god for the women of Afghanistan they have Karzai "in charge" (see post above) and not the Taliban.

[Mari333]

10. Women in Afghanistan should be handed M-16s also

thats a grand equalizer.
Besides, Ive been screaming about womens rights there LONGGGGGGGGGGG before the whores in the White House ever mnetioned it, those morons.
There are a few right wing extremist religious groups here that actually think women should lose the right to vote, or vote what their husbands want them to
Fat chance!
the gall of these guys, in any religion.

[aquart]

13. I have never objected to the killing of any Afghani man.

Except that it obviously doesn't work.

When men speak of the "good old days," they always mean when women were owned.

There are no "good old days" for women. Stone age Afghanistan being a case in point.

A man who is afraid of a woman's vote, has much to fear from God.

[Skittles]

18. that would explain why Afghanistan is such a wonderful paradise to live in

huh

[Vladimir]

22. Once again, democracy is brought to the savages

by the enlightened West. All hail the pipeline!

V

[NNN0LHI]

25. Looks like Pickles is going to have to go back to Paris and tell the...

...Afghan women (by radio again of course) how much things are going to improve for them now that the US has arrived?

Don

[w4rma]

26. Karzai and Afghanistan are so screwed. What a FUBAR. (n/t)

[MaineDem]

28. I like Ben Kinsgley better

I always think Karzai is Kingsley in an acting role.

We women aren't able to make decisions or anything like that. How silly to think women would be able to vote. :eyes:

[Ripley]

30. Is this what the new Iraqi Council will say to the Iraqi men?

Didn't someone shoot and kill the only woman who was on the Council last fall?

I suppose this is the real plan according to PNAC. Push women back to the home, say at least they get to vote (even if "told" who to vote for), and claim America, the Great Savior of the World has once again brought democracy and women's rights to the Arab world.

Meanwhile, how's your Road Map going in the ME YOU FRIKING MORANS!

:puke:

[arcane1]

33. o-boy, another oilman lecturing on democracy

are they free yet? :shrug:

[noiretextatique]

36. ann coulter would agree with him

or not. i think she said women shouldn't vote at all :eyes:

[grannylib]

37. Well yeah, wouldn't affect her(him) now would it???

[Voltaire99]

38. As in the US Bible belt?

What number of fundamentalist Christian women vote for themselves in America, I wonder?

It's not as if either sex within the ranks of our culture's Taliban have the luxury of independent thought!

[tigereye]

39. reminds me of that All in The Family

when Archie can't vote and expects Edith to vote his way instead. Hmmm didn't work that way as I remember. At least the women will get in the booth and hopefully they can decide. Well, if they are able to know whom they are voting for and don't have to tell the guys afterwards.

It's a start. :)

[JoeMemphis]

40. Afghanistan = Freeperville?

Ya know, this is the kind of stuff that would be cheered by "America's Cavemen" a/k/a "Free" Republic. I'm sure that many Freepers would love to be able to control the votes of their wives like their like-minded conservatives in Afghanistan do. They all seem to hate that women often cast deciding votes for the Democratic politicians. Freepers yearn for the "good ol' days" -- women stayed in the kitchen and did as they're told and affirmative action was for white men.

[wyldwolf]

42. I know rightwingers who feel this way...

[BiggJawn]

43. I see Karzai has read his Orwell....

What a stupid thing to say.

[salin]

44. Just a tad to the left of Ann Coulter who once said women shouldn't

have the right to vote.