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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:12 AM
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Republicans ask Senate to slow down on healthcare
Source: Reuters


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Senate Finance Committee made unsteady progress on Wednesday on a broad healthcare overhaul bill, working slowly through a crush of amendments as lawmakers battled over its cost and size.

Lawmakers resumed debate on Chairman Max Baucus's healthcare reform proposal, with Republicans repeatedly demanding more information on costs and calling for the committee to slow down its deliberations.

The Democratic-controlled panel was expected to begin voting on Wednesday on some of the 564 potential amendments to the plan, the last of five bills pending in Congress on U.S. President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.

The $856 billion, 10-year proposal by Baucus reflects Obama's call for a broad healthcare overhaul to rein in costs, improve care, regulate insurers and expand coverage to many of the 46 million uninsured people living in the United States.

"The changes we are considering could have an enormous impact on our economy," said Republican Senator Jim Bunning, asking for a delay before a final committee vote on the bill so its language could be finalized and budget experts could estimate its full cost.

Democratic Senator John Kerry said that was "fundamentally a delay tactic" by the Republicans


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE58J18320090923
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:14 AM
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1. 50 years not slow enough for you!
Fuck you republicans. It needs to be done and it needs to be done RIGHT FUCKING NOW!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:54 AM
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6. More than 100 years. Teddy Roosevelt was the first to propose a federal health
care solution, even before the abuses of health insurers.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:15 AM
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2. Meanwhile, HOW many Americans die every week because of no health insurance?
Eight hundred? Seven hundred?

Repukes = Murderers
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 05:06 PM
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13. And then there are all the people who are bankrupted...
...even when they have insurance. The figure I saw is that 62 percent of bankruptcies are related to medical expenses, and in 78 percent of those cases the person had health insurance.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:28 AM
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3. Onehandle asks Republicans to get off our planet. nt
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 04:15 PM
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25. Just to be sure ...I would prefer they would get off the solar system
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:43 AM
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4. K&R. I agree with John Kerry but go further--
Toss out all those delaying tactics!

Give us the type of insurance exchange Congress has -- thus avoiding months more of discussing details, just expand their plan for us as the President suggested at the joint session recently

PLUS

Make the public option into MEDICARE FOR ALL WHO CHOOSE IT. And start quickly by opening it up to 50+ year olds in 2010, 40+ in 2011, everyone else who wants it in 2012.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:48 AM
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5. I hope the Dems are taking notes for the next time when the GOP wants to ram something through
1. Make up plenty of lies about it, and then come out strongly against those very fabrications.
2. Threaten a filibuster from the start, no up or down votes.
3. Endlessly delay while repeating #1 and #2.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:57 AM
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7. H.R. 676. Single Payer.
Or ask yourself why health insurance stocks have risen so dramatically lately.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 12:33 PM
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8. HOW MUCH FUCKING SLOWER CAN YOU GET?
If they get any slower, they'll be moving backwards.

Beat me with a rubber hose and fuck me sideways. That's just stupid.

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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 01:23 PM
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9. Well that was rude, unrec'ing my recommend! eom
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jeffbr Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 01:24 PM
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10. Senate should tell Republicans to shut up
and sit down.
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steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:40 PM
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11. Reuters: Senate panel rejects Republican healthcare delay
Using North Korean negotiating tactics, Senate Republicans want the healthcare bill to procede at a slower pace. Republicans called it a free-speech issue but I think we've heard just about all we need to at the town hall screaming sessions. Republicans, with the possible exception of Olympia Snowe, have already said they won't vote for the bill so I don't see the point in listening to their hand wringing and foot dragging.



Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:21pm EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Senate Finance Committee rejected a Republican effort on Wednesday to delay a final vote on a broad healthcare overhaul as it slowly waded through a crush of amendments on the plan's cost and scope.

Republicans demanded more information on the bill's budgetary impact and called for the Democratic-controlled panel to slow its deliberations on Chairman Max Baucus' healthcare reform plan, which he had hoped to bring to a vote this week.

Democrats said the requests were a tactic to stall President Barack Obama's top domestic priority, a broad overhaul of the $2.5 trillion healthcare industry that would rein in costs, regulate insurers and expand coverage to many of the 46 million uninsured people living in the United States.

In the first of a day-long series of largely party-line votes, the panel rejected a Republican proposal to delay a final committee vote until the bill's language could be finalized and posted on the Internet, and budget experts could estimate its full cost.





http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58J18320090923">Senate panel rejects Republican healthcare delay
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:36 PM
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16. BEST NEWS I'VE HEARD ALL DAY!!
I watched those Repuke bastards squawk and squirm all day like babies trying to get their OWN WAY! I finally got so aggravated with all the BULL that I switched to another channel. I'm so glad that we won that one!! Special thanks to Sen. Kerry for speaking up as he did!! Yay for our side!!!
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:28 AM
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18. Stand up for "We the People" get this bill passed
"In the first of a day-long series of largely party-line votes, the panel rejected a Republican proposal to delay a final committee vote until the bill's language could be finalized and posted on the Internet, and budget experts could estimate its full cost."

Reguarding "the bill's language could be finalized and posted on the Internet," I heard some of the language last night Rachel M...had somone on who read the (language) only a Congress Critter could understand possibly...it's no dam wonder why so many bills are not read...and to post it on the internet was a no brainer....


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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:57 PM
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12. Yea, you said that last week too. Assholes. nt
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 05:31 PM
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14. sounds like luntz bullshit to me
eat a shotgun, fucks.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:00 PM
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15. LOL
yes it does sound like Luntz bs to me too
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 07:00 AM
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17. FUCK NO and FUCK THEM!!! nt
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:51 AM
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19. Topix Survey
http://www.topix.com/issue/health-care

So far, the anti-reform is getting all the attention because they are talking up. While those of us who voted for Obama last November represent the majority view, too many of us are silent when it really counts. Folks from this forum need to get out there and speak up.
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:16 PM
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20. Votes as of 08:04 PM, 09/24/09
For: 1139

Oppose: 1949


Come on folks in DU. Time to get off your duffs and answer that survey. Otherwise, Congress is going to remain convinced that the opponents are the majority. Talk up now before it is too late.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:15 PM
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22. You're wasting your time
Majority of the people who post on Topix (and dare I say *most* newspaper online forums) are rightwing morons. It should be no wonder the poll is "skewing" the "wrong way"
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:01 PM
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21. voted
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:31 PM
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23. Thanks Tabby

Activism is what changes society for the better.

Now it's time for the rest of of DU to do its part.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 04:12 PM
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24. too bad
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