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LauraK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 01:21 PM
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Saddam tape praises 'martyr' sons
The tape said: "I mourn to you the deaths of Uday and Qusay and those who struggle with them. You are the honour of this nation. America will be defeated.

It continued: "Even if Saddam Hussein has 100 children other than Uday and Qusay, Saddam would offer them the same way."

The tape, which was dated July 2003, is the fourth thought to have been made by Saddam since his regime was overthrown in April.

More here

New tape likely contains Saddam's voice
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Emoto Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 01:22 PM
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1. Whose voice will be on the tape...
...issued after we get Saddam?
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 01:24 PM
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2. Yours
Call your handlers.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 01:37 PM
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3. They'll probably bring back Osama, the Phantom Menace
who will swear to avenge the death of Saddam, who though an "Infidel Socialist" is still more worthy of defense than "The imperialist pork eating Great Satan" :eyes:
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 01:44 PM
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4. marytr and jihad don;t sound secular to me
Saddam was a secular socialist who hated fundamentalism. I am suspect of this tape.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 02:07 PM
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6. Saddam is religious when it suits his purposes
Since the Gulf War, he has really been playing up his faith. Thus, you get things like having the Koran written in his blood and claiming to be a descendent of the Prophet.

So, yes, he wants to enlist the the fundamentalists to fight Westerners. But he will crush them when they challenge him.

It's not all that different from what the Saudis do. The Royal Family is pretty secular - buying race horses and such. But they allow the Wahibists to do as they wish in society, as long as their anger is directed at the West and not the Royal Family.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 02:18 PM
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7. at heart, he's a politician
Which means "Opportunism" is the real ideology he relies on.

If he really wants the resistance to be well, he'd be better off just shutting up.
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Wonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 01:48 PM
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5. Again with these friggen tapes...
First it was OBL coming at us on video LIVE. Now it's Saddam. Am I trapped inside a bad Spy Novel or WHAT?

They are dead they are alive it's their voice it is not, but we got the butcher, the baker, the candlestickmaker of Saddam and his two son's. Was it a charade like this in the news reporting from WWII or even Vietnam for that matter. This seems an all time low.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 02:36 PM
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8. we are sick bastards in this country.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 06:39 PM
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12. Can I copy this pic and put Saddam's grandson on the fence too?
I just can't believe this is not being publicized even by radical 'left' sources? Who controls the media?
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 03:39 PM
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9. My evil dictator is kicking your evil dictator's ass!
(evil laughter)

They should have just had a family duel. Could have done it on pay-per-view. The Husseins versus the Bush's. Give 'em all hammers and knives and let 'em go at it.
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Avalon Sparks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 10:54 PM
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13. I completely agree with you Maggrwaggr~
But instead these two cowards - Bush and Saddam - will send young men to die for them. I'm so fucking sick of them both pushing people to fight each other for THEIR shit.

It's really between the Bush family and the Hussien family. I really hope that if Saddam is planning on vengence he will target Bush instead of the rest of America.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 12:00 AM
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14. As a matter of fact, Saddam challenged Bush to a duel before the war
People were sort of 'ha ha' about it here in the US, but it sure would have saved a lot of lives.

(I can't be the only person who remembers this, can I?)
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realityboy Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 05:06 PM
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10. Saddam willing to sacrifice 100 sons?
Yeah, Im sure he would. Nothing about him sacrificing his own sorry ass, of course. Im sure he's stricken by grief.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 06:36 PM
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11. Saddam did mention his 14 year old grandson.
Edited on Tue Jul-29-03 07:05 PM by dArKeR
http://theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030729.wtape0729/BNStory/International/
The tape also referred to Mustafa, Qusay's teenage son, who was killed in the gunfight in Mosul. "Uday, Qusay, and Mustafa died in Jihad field ... in a brave battle with the enemy," the voice said.

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I just don't believe Saddam is in a safe place if his sons and grandson were left to roam like rats in Baghdad. No money, no food, no real protection, no planned underground bunker or safe house, no security team, no communication equipment, no WMD. If you were Saddam would you let your sons and grandson drive around begging for a place for shelter and food? (No one is asking obvious questions!)

The sons and grandson were ordered killed directly by Bush. I am 100% sure Bush was notified the were surrounded and what should the military do. Bush ordered them killed. Don't you see the pics. of our soldiers are rigged with cameras and sound? All instant feeds to control centers and the White House. Bush didn't want to question these people because it would only embarrass Bush, the GOP and our killings.

A second point: Saddam surely has fathered at least 25 children from other women. It is a cultural practice.


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A fourth occupant, believed to be Qusay’s 14-year-old son Mustafa, apparently survived the missile strikes and shot at the entering troops before he was gunned down, officials said. (This was confirmed.)

http://www.msnbc.com/news/943393.asp?0cv=CA00


Uday, Qusay, Mustafa, 14, and a bodyguard were armed with AK-47 rifles and had barricaded themselves in on the second floor.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13212099_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-HELLFIRE%2D%2DSADDAM%2DSONS%2DKILLED%2DIN%2DHUGE%2DBLITZ-name_page.html

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