Newsweek: 2004 Campaign: A 'Shocking' Stumble

[RamboLiberal]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4467791/

March 15 issue - The controversy over President George W. Bush's new TV ads featuring fake firefighters and fleeting images of the 9/11 attacks threw campaign officials on the defensive—and raised questions about the Bush team's ability to effectively spend its massive $150 million war chest, some GOP insiders say. The president's ad team, led by Austin, Texas-based media maven Mark McKinnon, had carefully road-tested the spots in focus groups, and Bush himself signed off. But the rollout of the ads, which argue that Bush has made the country "safer, stronger," was quickly marred by charges from some 9/11 families that the Bush team was seeking to exploit the attacks for political gain. One scene shows footage of a flag-draped coffin of a terror victim; another has an American flag waving in front of World Trade Center wreckage. Publicly, Bush aides were dismissive and insisted the flap had only strengthened their plan to make 9/11 "a central topic of the campaign." "There's no way you can talk about George W. Bush without talking about September 11," said one campaign adviser. "It's like talking about Franklin Roosevelt without mentioning World War II." But privately, some GOP strategists were disturbed by the backlash and suggested the ad team had misjudged how the imagery would play. "It's quite shocking to a number of Republicans to watch them stumble out of the block like this," said one veteran GOP consultant, who added that the big question in GOP circles is "Do they know how to spend" their huge budget?

Another less-publicized aspect of the ad flap: the use of paid actors—including two playing firefighters with fire hats and uniforms in what looks like a fire station. "Where the hell did they get those guys?" cracked Harold Schaitberger, president of the International Association of Fire Fighters, which has endorsed John Kerry, when he first saw the ads.

[boobooday]

1. Actually, we could talk about FDR without mentioning WWII

Because he did so many other things for this country.

But it would be hard to talk about Hitler without talking about WWII -- you know what I'm saying. It's not necessarily a direct comparison, but Bush has big problems trying to continue playing like he was "reluctantly forced" into war.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[grytpype]

4. Good point.

It's incredibly sick that the Repugs would claim 9/11 as some kind of ACCOMPLISHMENT for Bush. Bush didn't prevent 9/11... which may or may not be excusable, but no way in hell is 9/11 a great shining moment for him!

[BigDaddyLove]

37. I will in no way defend Bush (or his actions) on 9/11........

but I think that the point they're trying to convey is that the world changed on 9/11 and as such Bush is the only one who is able to lead our country through these troubled times.

They are primarily talking to his base, who feel he has indeed been a great 'War-time President'....9/11 is/was his 'defining moment' so to speak.

Crazy, but there you have it.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

43. If any of the NeoCon base wants to compare Junior to FDR in any way...

...I say...

"Bring it on!!"

IMHO, comparing Junior and his mismanagement of an alleged "war on terror" that he and his NeoCon brethren allowed to happen (at the very least) to FDR's wartime management of the American effort in WWII is like comparing a molehill to a mountain.

[bobbyboucher]

84. Yeah, good one.

"I will in no way defend Bush". That's funnier than anything I've seen tonight on HBO. "Pardon the Interuption" pales in comparison.

[mediaman007]

62. 911 belongs to the firefighters and police of New York City...

the Shrub did nothing but do a photo op there

[Woodstock]

79. and then expose them to asbestos, and later take away their jobs

We've only seen the tip of the chronic illness as a result of exposure at Ground Zero after Bush's sham EPA said everything was hunky dorey.

Talk about crimes against humanity - what Bush had the EPA do was beyond shameful and criminal.

[CalProf]

80. That's actually a great sentence to spread around in the coming days...

"9/11 belongs to the firefighters and police of New York city. Any politician who tries to coopt that moment is simply stealing their heroism."

Or some such. Anyway, thanks for that clear, crisp expression of the truth.

[camero]

5. and the US went to WWII

in his third term.

[Piperay]

59. I think of FDR for all the

other things he did before I think of him regarding WWII. FDR had so many accomplishments, obviously chimp has none and so has to fall back on the biggest disaster this country has, yeah it happened on his watch cause he didn't prevent it.

[0007]

75. Eleanor Roosevelt should make all the bushes blush and feel cheap

Especially junior's old lady!

[Woodstock]

83. Imagine the quick work she'd make of Stepford Wife Laura

She'd probably have to spend a lot of time getting all the laughter out first.

[KC21304]

2. I'll bet Bush spent more time making these ads then he will

spend with the 9/11 commission.:dunce:

[burythehatchet]

10. What a great ad line

[struggle4progress]

18. Great remark!

[blm]

22. Exactly. Press that point over and over again.

.

[Tiberius]

32. perfect

Who's got Kerry's fax number? That sums it all up so well. It would make for a PERFECT sound bite!

[WillyT]

34. Bam !!! - Right On The Mark !!!

Sublime in its simplicity towards the simpleton.

:silly:

We don't neer to 'road test' that observation. It comes ready to use right out of the box!

MOST EXCELLENT!!!

:bounce::hi::bounce:

[readmylips]

39. Agree..When it comes to his a$$...

little man bush is a micromanager. He must defend the family dynasty. I wonder if little man bushie feels like my nephew. My nephew is always competing and has a axe to grind against his great dad, and always comes up short even when he steals, cheats and lies. And what he hates the most is that he is much shorter than his dad; 6-2 vs 5-9. Why this reminds me of little man bush?

[yardwork]

50. Brilliant!

Keep repeating it!

[General Discontent]

66. And remember, repeat after me....

"I'm George Bush and I approved this ad."

When these ads backfire there will be no one else to blame. He done painted himsef into a corner.... LOL:dunce:

DWolfman

[Faygo Kid]

3. They don't care. They figure the American people for boobs.

They are probably right. I think they expected this reaction going in, but made the decision a long time ago to create this cartoonish image of Bush, figuring the American people ("Who won Survivor last night, dear?") would buy it.

[Cocoa]

13. they figured the media would downplay it

I'm still surprised the media is covering this somewhat fairly, and I'm wary that they will at some point, maybe a more crucial point, get in line with what the Bush campaign wants. Studies of Kerry's flip-flops, nice profiles of Bush's religiousness, etc.

[lolly]

52. Apparently, some people fell for it:

"The president's ad team, led by Austin, Texas-based media maven Mark McKinnon, had carefully road-tested the spots in focus groups, and Bush himself signed off."

Wait--I thought AWOL didn't USE focus groups--wasn't that something that that horrible Clinton did, governing by focus group? OH, well, never mind.

Makes you wonder if they're stupid enough to set up their focus groups the way they set up all his appearances. Do you have to prove that you're a semi-literate Republican fanatic before they'll allow you into a focus group? Are these people too stupid to realize that this practice might negate the whole point of a focus group?

[T Bone]

77. They probably filter info from focus groups like they filtered WMD intell

from Iraq. Through some wack-jobs in Cheney's office. He runs everything right?

[UpInArms]

6. I think that using 9/11 as a prop for ads is disgusting

but I found the "fake firefighters" line amusing

http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/ny-uscamp043694730mar04,0,79451.story?coll=ny-news-archive

The spots contain shots of Bush interspersed with glimpses of ordinary citizens: a family, firefighters, schoolchildren, construction workers, a female soldier helping a child. Some scenes were staged with actors while others were culled from commercially purchased "stock footage" of real life, Bush media adviser Mark McKinnon said. One of the spots has a Spanish- language version.

[whistle]

12. Slick and phoney...

...good descriptions of the Bush ads:hurts: :nuke:

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. Glad to see the Bu$h Campaign

off to such a good start. I think Karl and Karen have lost the magic touch. Remember when everyone thought they were such geniuses, that they could do no wrong? Now it seems that everything they touch is turning to shit. I can't wait to see the ship of fools go drown in their own stupidity and arrogance.

[Journeyman]

27. I was never convinced of Karl & Karen's genius. . .

they backed Shrub, did they not?

[bushwakker]

67. It's easy to be a genius with a compliant GOP media machine

given the enormous money and media bias advantages they have it's a wonder these elections are competetive at all.

[catmandu57]

8. I can't believe people would act in these commercials

professional actors anyway. They seem so damn turncoat, there has to be another way to earn a living than lying about the obvious.

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

9. For baby-boomer appeal, why not an ad w/Bush in front of the SS office

defending his decision to cut social security benefits?

It's difficult to talk about Bush and not think of cuts to retirement benefits. That's what I think about, anyway.

[sendero]

11. It amazes me..

... that these people sell the idea that 911 defining this presidency is a good thing.

It is not, it is a bad thing. 911 should have never happened, but it did and it happened on his watch.

On edit - oops - I see someone else already made this point.

So I'll add another. This president has made a career of playing the public for fools. That works when people are more or less on your side. It does not work once people become suspicious. I think no matter how much money they spend, they are going to have a hard time getting the public to buy much of anything positive...

[yardwork]

53. Bingo!

This president has made a career of playing the public for fools. That works when people are more or less on your side. It does not work once people become suspicious.

In 2000, a lot of people were sore about Clinton's lies, and they didn't see a clear difference between Bush and Gore.

This year, a lot MORE people are sore about W's lies (which have killed people, unlike Bill's lies).

There's a big difference between W and Kerry and I think most people can't wait to throw the chimp out of office.

[mediaman007]

63. Clinton lied about a personal matter...

he didn't lie while doing the job the American people sent him to do. Just remember Clinton out IQ's Bush 2 to 1 (182 to 91).

[cally]

14. The more Rove and company don't seem invincible

the better off the Dems are. I'm sensing the media starting to re-evaluate their slavish allegiance to the * cartel. Kerry will payback to the whores and I hope they realize it soon.

And a big thank you to the 9/11 victims families and friends. First you lost your loved one and now you are saving our country. :toast:

[RamboLiberal]

16. This F'Up by Rove and Company have gotten the 9-11 families air time

Though her message needed to be heard, you rarely saw the media whores put Kristen Breitweiser or other family members on TV or radio. This ad now has them voicing their concerns and bringing out the ?'s about AWOL's reactions that day, his stonewalling of the 9-11 commission, and his and Cheney's arrogance of thinking they could get away with meeting privately with only 2 commission members and for only an hour.

[stevedeshazer]

60. That is absolutely right

You'd never have seen Kristen Breitweiser being interviewed by Katie Couric et al without this huge mistake by Bush/Cheney2004.com and company.

The Radical Right is asking legitimate questions about how their campaign donations are being spent.

This ploy has backfired. Everything they touch turns to stone.

[Auntie Bush]

15. The GOP is right! There is no way you can discuss Bush

without talking about September 11. That's because he has nothing else to brag about...everything else has been a failure. And that was a failure too, but it is the best he can offer.

How can he brag about how he:

1. Left all those children behind.
2. Is destroying old growth forests and is polluting our air and water.
3. Has united this nation and our world.
4. Robbed the poor and middle class and gave it to his rich buddies, family and corporation's.
5. Gotten us cheap oil.
6. Gotten rid of all those terrorists.
7. Protected the rights of all Americans and promoted Democracy.
8. Given us a transparent government so we can be sure nothing like Nixon ever happens again.
9. Made us feel secure because we now know what mistakes were made that led to 9/11. ( I just sighed, took a deep breath and relaxed.)
10. Is going to produce Jobs in India, making Military weapons and building power plants and building up Iraq after we let it go to rack and ruin with sanctions and then bombed the hell out of what was left.

Maybe someone else can take the ball from here. Excuse me while I go and :puke:.

[yardwork]

57. Here's some more bragging points for W

Replaced a healthy national surplus with a huge deficit.

Achieved above by lowering revenues and raising expenses (I thought Repugs claimed to be good at math - doh!).

Faced with disasters abroad and economic ruin at home, W courageously proposed --

-- spending millions of dollars to make unhappy couples stay married, while pushing a constitutional amendment to prevent couples who want to marry from doing so.

[twilight]

17. invalid and distorted comparison

"There's no way you can talk about George W. Bush without talking about September 11," said one campaign adviser. "It's like talking about Franklin Roosevelt without mentioning World War II."

There are some out there that think of things like the Great Depression, the formation of the WPA, the formation of Social Security and many other GOOD things when we think of FDR.

Sure, FDR was a great wartime president but what choice did he have; he could have been horrible - is that what the United States needed at that time? The Nazis were around long before he was president and FDR did not start WWII.

This is an unjust and degrading comparison to make. FDR was truly a great president unlike this scumbag we :puke: and listen to as he stumbles over every word that comes out of his evil mouth.

FDR was not evil. This is the major difference between the two.



:dem: :kick:

[young_at_heart]

19. What the ad reminds me of: classroom......doing nothing

How can his handlers say he showed leadership? A true leader would not sit idly by while our nation is under a major attack!

[twilight]

20. I remember after it happened ...

I was saying "Where is the president?!!! Where the hell is *?" Then I heard he was flying around on jets from place to place.

Makes you feel do damn secure doesn't it?

It is a vile disgrace to use what happened on 9/11 as an item to run a political campaign.

These people are indeed sick!

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Hermann Goering said, "It is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders. That is easy. All you have to tell them is that they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."



:dem: :kick:

[Barkley]

21. Its not shocking at all its very typical of Bush

This guy is incompetent.

Anything he gets his hands on he destroys.

1. The economy: When Bush took over, we had a surplus and the real possibility of paying off the national debt. Today, we've got red ink as far as the eye can see and $7 trillion in debt. It mostly due to his irresponsible tax cuts.

2. After 9-11, the U.S. had the sympathy of the world. That's all been evaporated and replaced with world-wide anomosity because of the Iraq war.

3. After 9-11, the American populace was united behind Bush. Bush squandered that too with the Patriot Acts. Over 100 municipalities and state gov't have repealed parts of these acts. Once again American is divided and people protest him where ever he goes.

4. Now he's beginning to squander the $150 billion war chest. He doesn't even have the sense to get himself elected.

5. Bush Surrounded himself by competent people like Powell, Rice etc. and still has a failed foreign policy in Iraq, Afghanistan, Haiti etc.

6. Bush had access to the best prep education but still scored way below his Yale class on the SAT. God only knows how he got into Harvard Business School.

We can expect more 9-11 infomericials because he can run on his economic record.

[Auntie Bush]

28. You are are absolutely correct. He and his chickenhawks can't

run on his record ...So he has to run on 9/11.

Speaking of chickenhawks reminds me I have to go cook a roast chicken.
I'll be thinking of Bush with each and every bite and try not to :puke:.

[thebigidea]

51. Rice is competent?

[Barkley]

74. Rice is competent

I mean skilled, provost at Stanford etc.
The same with Colin Powell -- expertise in
foreign affairs or Paul O'Neill former Tres. Sec.

I don't think there were questions raised at their
Congressional confirmations in 2001 about their skills
and abilities.

These people unlike Bush worked hard to earn there positions.

And also unlike Bush, I don't recall a consistent pattern of failure in these peoples past until they got into the Bush Administration.

Bush was unable to use their human resources in a
constructive way: 'sum of the parts greater than the whole'.

This in no way means they are not responsible for actions
and inactions even if they were 'just following orders'.

Analogy:
If I, instead of Esa-Pekka Salonen, were conducting a L.A. Philharmonic performance of Mozart at the Hollywood Bowl the audience would definitely notice the difference and would correcly attributed the bad performance not to the professional musicians but to the conductor who can't even read music.




You wouldn

[Mari333]

23. Lets see a Bu$h ad with a mother of a dead soldiers casket

as its pushed off a plane in the dead of night at Dover AF base.
Or an ad with Bu$h standing next to the dead body of an Iraqi child blown to bits in his shock and awe bloodbath.
Or an ad with him standing next to a soldier who is holding his buddy in his arms as he dies, replete with real screaming from the pain
Lets show Bu$h in an ad with my mom, who had to sell her furniture to buy meds, and file for bankruptcy, or
Show him in an ad with a street kid selling themselves on the street of some city in the US to get some money for food.
or maybe show him standing next to a mom with her kids who havent eaten for a week, or who are huddled in a cold apartment because they cant afford the heating bill.
Fuck Bush.

[proud patriot]

24. "fake Firefighters"

I insist if bush is allowed to conitinue using these ads that
the Words "Fake Firefighters" be displayed at the bottom of
the screen.

[peekaloo]

29. I agree....similar to the Moveon ad disclaimers

"steady leadership during times of change"....I laugh to keep from crying.

[symbolman]

25. Let's not forget that moment

when they stuck Bush in front of what looked like a home movie videocamera and he told us all in a shaky voice that we're gonna get those fellers, etc..

I recall that I had the feeling that he had been captured and that he was giving a speech under duress.. I thought that some enemy had actually SNAGGED him.. the video was the worst I'd seen on tv since the 60's and he was SO FREAKING SCARED..

I really expected to see a big piss stain as he walked away from that podium.. but I guess he'd changed his pants since he was hiding behind the toilet in Air Force One as it went straight into the air..

coward, chickenshit, and they planned this, oh yes, they did..

[Brucey]

26. 9/11 happened to America, even to the world, not to

the repug party or GWB*. 9/11 is part of us, not part of them. The stole the flag and now they want to steal 9/11. Many of those involved were foreigners, Democrats, apolitical, etc. Why is it a repug issue?

[megatherium]

30. Can't wait until September

when the GOP has its convention in Manhattan. (August 30 to September 2, actually.) All 9/11 all the time.

[BeatleBoot]

31. Bush Thrives On Disaster

He was asleep at the switch on September 10th.

His presidency has been a total failure on so many levels - all at our expense.

[Vogon_Glory]

33. Once The Spinmeisters Step Outside Of The Magic Circle

I'm enjoying this bit of Boosh Regime discomfiture and am hoping that Divine Justice will inspire those rascals to make many more such blunders between now and Election Day. Once the spinmeisters release their product outside of the magic circle, all sorts of interesting things can happen.

Such a distressing thing, reality.

Heh! Heh! Heh! Heh! Heh!

[Manix]

35. The right prey on the misinformed and the ignorant. Pictures that draw

an emotional response, however lacking in logic, is right up their alley.

[GreenGreenLimaBean]

36. A Phony Ad for a Phony President.

nuf said.

[kskiska]

38. How about taking those cameras up to Walter Reed Hospital

and showing what 9/11 is really about for the Bush* administration?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

45. Better yet...take them to the hospital in Germany where they're hiding...

...some of the most critical cases.

[goclark]

89. Yes! Let's Go To Walter Reed

The question that I have is the "injured" numbers given on the tv.
When the average American thinks of injured,they may think of a broken leg.
We need to see numbers of those that have specific injuries

Brain injuries ; Number ____

Loss of Legs : Number ____

etc.

Not just those currently in the hospitals from Iraq but those who habe been released as well.

We need to have our precious soldiers respected for ANY suffering.
As George Bush been to see these men and women in the hospital?

[Serendipity36]

40. !!! $150 Million for a campaign???????

Can the greed of politicians like that be any more disgusting?

I am appalled and horrified at the greed of people.

[young_at_heart]

41. How about an ad of him at funerals?

How many funerals has he attended anyway?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

44. Who will they pay to act as the dead?

[Poiuyt]

64. Who will they pay to act as the president?

Since bush doesn't go to soldier's funerals

[AlinPA]

42. Over reaching again:

Calling teachers terrorists
Saying outsourcing jobs is good for US
Changing burger flipping jobs to "manufacturing"
..now this ad. All in a few weeks.

[Thor_MN]

46. Where's the footage of the airbases where he was hiding on 9/11 and 9/12?

???????

[truthisfreedom]

47. i love it. everything about these ads draws attention to bush's refusal to

speak at length with the septemeber 11th commission. his own ads subconsciously reinforce the evidence of his hypocrisy in the minds of his own ranks.

[Beetwasher]

48. Backlash Baby!

Love it!

[yardwork]

49. I'm disappointed that they noticed the ads weren't working.....

I was hoping that they would continue to delude themselves for weeks.

Now they'll pull the ads and hire a better ad company. Too bad.

[snippy]

55. Don't despair. They have a nearly infinite capacity to screw up.

Bush has a Fecal Midas Touch and is an incessant and compulsive liar. Day by day and voter by voter, Bush himself has been convincing more and more people that he should not be president. That is the true story of the steady decline in his approval ratings since 9/11.

[bushwakker]

72. His life is one long list of failures

yet he keeps moving up the ladder. I only hope he will be stopped from being a two term president which is as high on the ladder as you can go.

[Orangepeel]

54. The firefighters were FAKE!???

Oh, man!

[belle]

70. Perfect, isn't it?

I really want to see an anti-Bush ad showing him in his flyboy drag from last year, with the logo "I'm not a real solider (x that out) pilot (x that out) President. But I play one on TV."

[Malva Zebrina]

56. and so wait

this McKinnon company claims to have done extensive research and comes up with this failure of an ad?

Excuse me, but how much did this McKinnon place get paid to produce this abortion?

Maybe someone of them fudged the results and never did the research in the first place?

I mean we are talking big business here with the vaunted, unassailable king George Bush, presidunce of the United States and his whole reputation and career hinges on this McKinnon product.

Geez--honestly--they are really nuts in the quest for power and their propensity to use propagandist, public relations firms to push their -product, which is their fake presidunce, George Bush.

He has got to be fuming that the results are not forthcoming as predicted--no one is cheering and kneeling down in front of the dauphine after seeing these offensive ads.

Further, Laura looks like an aging ass with a wrinkled up, pursed mouth that has seen too many cigarettes pass it's lips. The joker smile has transformed into the disapproving, seriously involved with the tragedy of 9-11 and the concentrated, cheerleading of her husband as the "leader, the stable leader" after all of that, stupid looking too much lipsticked mouth.

They both look bloated, fat and trying very hard to act the part of the serious concerned, totally in charge of 9-11, presiduncial couple.

What stupid asses they both look like as they try their hardest to look like what they think a grieving, serious person looks like. They look so phoney that even a grade B actor would have done it better. Overacting and trying to play a part. and that will be their downfall. I say "they" because now Laura has become an active part of Bush's campaign and is irretrievably connected to the campaign effort to promote her war criminal of a husband. If she does not, well then she loses her whole life support--ie her money.

http://peoplesforum.com/cgi-bin/forum?31@@2fce8930@22

[Beetwasher]

58. You Gotta Understand, Their Research and Conclusions About it

are two different things...

They "researched" these ads just like they researched the existence of WMD's. Do you really think they would deny the emporer his due to whore out 9/11? Of course the agency told him and the others they "tested" well because that's what they wanted to hear and that's what they were paid to tell them and paid to do...

[Malva Zebrina]

68. Ohhhh -I see

we do not tell the
Emporor he has no clothes. We do not tell the
Emporor's aging,botoxed, hair dyed, eye lifted, vapid, stupid wife she is a fat assed, additionally, horrendously nude, non clothing wearer person, as they both parade along the route waving at their populace and admirerors totally stark naked while believing they are being hailed as the royalty they think they are and

think they are clothed in the cloth of royalty. They are however, much to their ignorance, are totally stark naked and the sight is not a pleasant one at all , since they both are past their prime and at best should try to cover up to spare us all.

We just go along with their fantasy of being dressed in this finery--to get along and wave back pretending they do indeed have a wonderful outfit of gold, brocaded, exclusive, royalty outfits suitable to their position in the realm.

Yup--prolly what happened. You may have it right.

[belle]

71. Yep. Bingo. It's classic narcissism.

Well, that, and, let's face it, not a lot of raw material to work with, there. But I imagine it must be a special kind of hell to do *'s P.R. these days. As with all narcissists: maintaining the fantasy is the most important thing, even at the expense of reality. Of course, inevitably there comes a point where they simply can't ignore reality anymore, and then they go on a rampage blaming the nearest poor slob in sight--in this case, I will bet you, that very P.R. company that just did what he wanted them to do. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Beetwasher]

87. LOL! I Like The Way You Explain It

better than me! But by Jove you've got it!

[pinto]

69. they ran it by Chalabi....n/t

[Woodstock]

82. Good one!

Maybe he'll "fall on his sword" for this one, too.

[ParanoidPat]

61. Repeat after me, "Bush* FAILED TO PREVENT 911!

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BUSH* FAILED TO PREVENT 911!

Run on that monkey-boy! :evilgrin:

[rfkrocks]

65. FDR and * have a lifetime of struggle in common

FDR had to fight polio and * had to fight the happy hour line-

[goclark]

73. Bring Out The Goat Story

If the Repubs insist on keeping the Ads on 9 11, that gives the Demos a perfect reason to talk say "yes,let's talk about exactly what happened on that day,Mr. President."

That video of him sitting down reading the goat story instead of directing the aftermath of the bombings is the defining moment for his total lack of leadership.

What leader would ever stay and read to a 2nd grade class while knowing,by that time, that New York was in shambles?

America needs to see that video.

[opihimoimoi]

76. Yup, kept on reading the book to the kids.... Some kinda Leader we got

NOT!!

and Fake Fire Fighters?, that is appalling. What? No fire fighter would do it so they had to hire out? That goes to show they are indeed desperate. and Lame too.

[Woodstock]

78. 1) Bush is no FDR 2) 9/11 is no WWII

And I agree with those who said, FDR was about a LOT more than WWII, much of it remarkably positive. What are Bush's positives besides dubious "leadership" during 9/11? What is Bush about, besides kids getting their legs blown off for Halliburton in Iraq and more jobs lost since Hoover (and holding) and the environment going to hell and the Constitution getting trampled on and the biggest deficit and rampant corporate corruption and oh... this could go on and on. Even if I try really hard to think of something good he's done, I can't.

And to tell the truth, I don't even get why they want to bring up 9/11. He's stonewalled the investigation, he was reading stories to kids AFTER being told about it, and then he most horrifically sent firefighters and policemen back to work in Ground Zero in extremely dangerous air conditions, deliberately disregarding expert advice that it was harmful - they will likely suffer the rest of their lives as a result. Bush deserves jailtime for that, IMHO - or expose him to asbestos as long as he exposed them...

[scarface2004]

81. bush can take his $150 million...

and shove it up his ass!!!

[kori]

85. Shocking Stumble, no just more slick marketing or is that sick marketing?

I am not certain if FDR would have used images of Pearl Harbor in his re-election campaign or not. What I am sure of is that President Bush spent more time and money on these commercials than he seems to want to spend answering questions on how he was leading this country DURING the attacks. Of course hearing a story on goats just might have kept America safer from terrorist goats.

[Enraged_Ape]

86. Hope they similarly flush the rest of their $200M down the crapper

Welcome to DU, kori! :toast:

[kori]

88. Thanks for the welcome

I have been reading for several months, and remembering my roots in the late 60's on the campus of Indiana University. At least we can thank Bush for re-radicalizing many old activists.