Obama heckled by GOP during speech to Congress

[kpete]

Source: Associated Press

Obama heckled by GOP during speech to Congress

(AP) – 16 minutes ago

WASHINGTON — The nastiness of August reached from the nation's town halls into the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday as President Barack Obama tried to move his health care plan forward.

South Carolina Republican Rep. Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!" after Obama had talked about illegal immigrants.

It wasn't the only interruption during Obama's speech to a joint session of Congress in the House of Representatives. Earlier, Republicans laughed when Obama acknowledged that there are still significant details to be worked out before a health overhaul can be passed.

Wilson's outburst caused Obama to pause briefly before he went on with his speech. Overhead in the visitors' gallery, first Lady Michelle Obama shook her head from side to side.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gTWB1M9VPOte4M77spW7Z62NsGyQD9AK4ULO0

[liberal N proud]

1. See this thread on suggestion...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6504960

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[47of74]

145. I wouldn't say "lies" to the staffer, though

I'd say to the staffer to tell his or her boss TO GROW THE FUCK UP!!!!

[Born Free]

168. Give them enough rope and they hang themselves..

As bad as it is, as disrespectful as it is, you have to consider it is great politics. The entire world gets to observe how one party is trying to move USA ahead and another has resorted to disrespect and obstruction. Any reasonable person paying attention to our current political situation will quickly rule out the GOP as being a party truly interested in the future of USA. It all reminds me of the old Syndey Poitier movies where the respectable, adept individual is hounded to no end but keeps working and in the end earns the respect for all that meet him. All this is making Obama and the democrats look good, and the GOP look bad. I work with several republicans and although a few have become even more radical, some are now turning away from the GOP because they just can't be part of this crazy atmosphere anymore. The GOP is turning their own party against itself, with the radical against the moderates.

Now we can hope Obama will be able hold the democrats together through the next full moon... as we might have some democrats that are very close to needing strait jacket time as well

[C_U_L8R]

2. Some discipline is in order

this ain't faux news rules here

[Ian David]

3. Surprised he didn't shout, "Sic Semper Tyranus!" the anti-American fucking piece of shit. n/t

[JenniferJuniper]

25. Seriously, I was half-expecting to see someone tumble down from the balcony.

It was unnerving to say the least.

[april]

4. rude pig /no class Joe Wilson

[AzNick]

46. Photo here

[UpInArms]

60. kick this piece of shit to the curb

and take away his healthcare (provided by the taxpayers of the US)

[eagertolearn]

84. Are those guys twins on either side of him?

[Butch350]

116. Look at the smirks on their face ;((

[shanti]

146. i noticed that too

assholes

[zonkers]

127. They all practiced synchronized grimaces before the session.

[Texas Mom]

128. LOL Nope just the demented Rethug look these days

[George II]

133. they fit the republican robot mold....

[gauguin57]

142. "Hey Obama! Pull my finger!"

What a d-bag.

[Trav1u]

155. hoe hoe Joe must go...NOW!

The face of RUDE.

[wryter2000]

243. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[No Elephants]

237. Look at the hate on those faces. UGLY.

[dotymed]

61. ALL OF THESE DISGUSTING,GREEDY, G O Pers

Seem like they just fell of the Jerry Springer stage. If I
were the President, I would have told the world how rude and
insignificant he was.

[curiousdemo]

137. Listen Up South Carolina!

Only in South Carolina! Let's see now, you have a Governor about to be impeached for lying and leaving the State to run itself, You have a Lt. Governor who lying about his (He was a Cheerleader) sexual orientation, . You have a man in Jim Demint, who a walking lunatic. You have a mouth of the south in Lindsey Graham, You have a Attorney General after only one day of investigation, stated Governor Sanford hadn't broke any laws. You have a rebel flag on the grounds of the State Capitol that represent an abomination by God. You have a status of Strom Thurmond on the State Capitol, who was a staunch Dixiecrat, a segregationist and a liar. And just for good measure, you have Miss Teen America (Have anyone given her a flag yet), and a man who had sex with a horse. Now, you have a Bozo, who will be known as the idiot who disrespected the President of the United States. Good people of South Carolina, these are your Leaders! You and these crazies are officially a laughing stock of this nation.

[mwb970]

161. SC does seem to be Ground Zero for republican misbehavior.

What a nightmare state, from a political and cultural point of view.

[Swede Atlanta]

183. Not to mention Lindsay Graham....

Now as a gay man I abhor the "outing" of individuals. I think a person's decision to go public with his/her orientation is a deeply personal thing whether that is opening to family, friends, work, church/mosque, etc.

But I draw the line when you have public figures that are hypocrites. I don't know if Lindsay Graham is gay or not but there have been lots of rumors. While I haven't seen or heard him froth at the mouth on the family values issues, his voting record on GLBT issues is abhorrent. He votes with the pack on the far right.

So you have another one for S.C., an alleged closeted homosexual serving in the U.S. Senate voting against his own self-interests as a gay man (if he is).

[No Elephants]

241. I don't find gay Republicans any more reprehensible than hetero Republicans.

I can bash folks for voting for DOMA, whether or not those folks are hetero or gay, Dem of Pub. I can also bash folks for being Republican, whether they are hetero or gay. I can also think of a thousand reasons to diss Lindsey Graham, but his orientation--whatever it may be--is his business.

IMO, gay Republicans are no more and no less objectionable than hetero Republicans.

As far as being a hypocrite. we don't know that. For instance, most people believe cheating on a spouse is wrong, yet something like 50% of people cheat. That does not make them hypocrites. It only makes them unable to live up to their own ideals. Which makes them human beings with human failings.

He can believe that he is gay and still genuinely believe with all his heart and soul that gay people should not get Social Security of their spouses. I feel sorry for him if he has that kind of self loathing for no good reason. But, it does not mean he is a hypocrite.

[noiretextatique]

255. but they know what's best for you and me

i don't care if mark sanford had an affair or if lindsey graham is gay. however, i do care that mark sanford, who had an affair, is against marriage for gay and lesbian people. likewise with lindsey, who is rumored to be gay. it's not their human failings that makes them hypocrites, it's their political stances. graham can most certainly be a self-hating gay who hates other gay people too, and it certainly seems that he is. that makes him a hypocrite also.

[BlueGirlRedState]

203. Thanks for taking the heat off of Texas

We could use a break.

[hamsterjill]

228. Amen!!!

I'm surprised Cornyn didn't stand up and applaud Wilson's outburst!

[nxylas]

207. Preaching to the choir, I'm afraid

Most of the South Carolinians who read your post will be the ones who *didn't* vote for those douchebags.

[happygoluckytoyou]

220. The ......2..... South Carolinians who CAN READ... can't write.... sorry...luck of the draw!!!

[nxylas]

239. I lived in SC until a couple of months ago

There are progressives there (including some DUers), their voices are just drowned out by the Dittoheads. There's no need to insult them here too.

[Arrowhead2k1]

5. WTF?! Did this piece of slime think he was at a Town Hall?!

[iamjoy]

182. It Wasn't Just Wilson

When I witnessed the boorish behavior of many Republicans at last night's address, I thought about the town halls. It wasn't just Congressman Wilson, although certainly his offense was the most egregious. Lots of them were booing and clucking at our President.

I have a little more sympathy for emotional displays from the herd of citizens opposed to health care reform. They have been whipped into a state of fear by Fox News and elected officials. Sadly, many Conservatives have have no problem spreading lies and inaccuracies because they would rather health care go down in defeat than to give Obama and the Democrats a political victory.

The tea baggers who shout at Townhalls can claim ignorance and fear. They can claim their emotions got the better of them. I expect better from public servants while sitting in the House Chamber with the President of the United States in front of them. If our elected officials can't show respect for their own office and the President of the United States, it is no wonder the tea baggers are so rude.

[AlbertCat]

212. Lots of them were booing and clucking at our President.

No they weren't! I didn't hear any booing. What I did see is stone faced fools who, as usual with Repugs these days, already made up their minds and weren't listening except for moments to NOT applaud and NOT get with the program....y'know, the Party of No. They were silently booing....but not actually booing.

We don't need to exaggerate, y'know. We can tell it like it is.

Barney Frank got it right when he talked to Rachel Maddow.... Let 'em yell. It's a free country. But it just shows their utter frustration and helplessness. They're obsolete.

They have no ideas. The rebuttal was "most Americans want us to start over" which is a complete fantasy. Most Americans want reform NOW.

[hamsterjill]

229. I heard some boos

Actually, I did hear some boos. I changed channels to make sure that I was hearing it, too. And it was distinctly there.

[bettyellen]

236. there sure were boos and catcalls, turn the volume up

[No Elephants]

242. If they so obsolete, how come we have such a lame health reform bill?

The radical religious right cannot win elections. However, moderate Democrats and culturally liberal Republicans are a lot alike these days. in that sense, both parties are obsolete and the Republicrats rule Washington, D.C.

[OhioChick]

6. A classless asshole. n/t

[AsahinaKimi]

7. Had anyone said this to BUSH ... during his address to Congress

They probably would have had to secretly face Dick Cheney's waterboarding team. Now
Watch FOX news make this guy a Hero... disgusting.

[zbdent]

169. nobody could ... Cindy Sheehan was arrested for wearing a T-shirt

(of course, for "balance", they asked a Repug wife to leave ... big difference ... Cindy arrested, Repug-bot nicely asked to leave ...)

[unapatriciated]

224. or placed in a "Free Speech Zone" far away from the event.

[No Elephants]

244. The first "Free Speech Zone" of which I am aware was created in Boston by Democrats for the 2004

Democratic National Convention. It was a big cage, under the elevated trolley tracks (now gone). I was appalled when I saw it.

[unapatriciated]

258. your right, we gave the R's the idea.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0220-02.htm


:wtf:

[No Elephants]

247. Cindy was at a joint session of Congress when Bush addressed it?

[PurpleChez]

194. That's was my first thought as well...

...if this had happened during the Bush regime the perp would have been denounced as a traitor and the talk radio wingnuts would have been insisting he be executed for treason. It's amazing how quickly the thugs dropped their insistence on unconditional obedience of the president....

[woodsprite]

210. And his name would have had a (D) next to it when Fox News played the tape. n/t

[unapatriciated]

222. yes, they do love to misplace that "D"

[No Elephants]

245. Joe Scarborough was insisting this morning that Democrats in Congress used to hiss Dummya.

[felinetta]

8. Repubs are filth. Does anyone know what paper they were holding up? Maybe it was Kenyan birth cert.

[AsahinaKimi]

17. The paper being held up was a sign that said

"What bill?"

[Kajsa]

234. So it wasn't their own proposal?

They acted like it was.

" See? We have a plan and it's better!"

NOT!

They waved it in the air every time
President Obama mentioned working together.

So it was only a damn sign with

"What bill?"

That was all they had?

[BlueIdaho]

9. Tell him...

[e-mail]

[Technodaoist]

18. My email

I wrote this email several times before hitting send. It got shorter each time as I removed the vitriol... hard to do for me.

====================
The politest comment on your outburst is this:

Show some respect.
You've embarrased yourself.
You've embarrased the Republican Party.
You've embarrased America.

====================

I wanted to throw a couple of "fucking punk"s and "hypocritcal douchebag"s in there - but that would just give license to ignore my other words... Pained as I was to remove them.

[Joe_michigan]

53. Technodaoist, I did send this guy an email using

exactly what you had said. About showing respect, and being embarrassed. I like yourself was inclined to use stronger language then thought better of it. I just hope he is ashamed of himself (like if that will ever happen)

Cheers

[SallyMander]

106. Hey, welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Technodaoist]

59. I got an auto-reply

Seems that email is "unattended"

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
subject: Auto-reply - Unattended Mailbox

I sincerely appreciate your taking the time to contact me. In an effort to better serve you, please visit my website at www.joewilson.house.gov or click this link provided http://www.house.gov/formwilson/IMA/issue.htm for your e-mail needs. From my website, I will be better able to respond to your concerns.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



This is of course, a punkass dodge. Its not like he couldn't have a forwarder send that email account's content to any other location to "better be able to respond to your concerns".

The link works (http://www.house.gov/formwilson/IMA/issue.htm) - but sends you to a form with umpteen "required fields", thereby putting up more roadblocks and delaying people to the point where they just give up. God forbid a simple email would suffice.

Obstructionist Punkass Bitch.

[Technodaoist]

70. Sent it again

And I added (due to the fact you are required to fill in ALL contact info - an email addy aint good enough)

"Feel free to disregard my message.

Its a global economy in case you hadn't noticed, and my money spends in SC just as well as OH. Your opponent will be receiving my (and many others') donations, to be sure."

[Enthusiast]

177. Money is very tight for me

but I will join you in supporting this idiot's opponent.

[BonnieJW]

190. Is anyone running against him???

Fellow DUers from SC, my sympathies and please keep us all apprised regarding this schmuck's opponent.

[aquart]

130. Mine:

A lack of self control is now sufficient excuse for violating the Rules of Congress?

I see your opponent has raised over $50,000 since you shamed your district and your state. And your mother.

If you are not in control of your actions you should not be allowed to vote or own property. Or sit in Congress. You should have a guardian and a diaper.

If you had any honor, you would resign. But nobody expects honor from a Republican anymore. Say hello to Governor Sanford. Neither one of you has any self control.

[AlbertCat]

214. And your mother

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Good one!

[Hubert Flottz]

231. "A lack of self control"

Same thing happened to Rev. Jim Jones when he mixed up the Kool-Aid.

[sallyseven]

253. Vitter has all the diapers.

another idiot. Did you see the letter he sent out? Funny as hell.

[DCKit]

149. Mine: Classless

My parents are Republics from Charleston, and were shocked at your tasteless, childish outburst.

Thanks!

By the way, get off the crank, they have a prescription pill for what ails you. You can get it for free with your socialist health care.

[Cobalt-60]

159. Mine was a bit saltier

particularly the part where I lament the existence of the dueling laws.

[swwallace81]

206. Imagine what he'd have done if the president

had invaded a country, spent a trillion dollars, cost 4000 Americans. Oh yea, NOTHING! But try to do something good for society.........

[april]

23. thank you for info

[Mortos]

50. Here is mine

You Classless Jerk

How dare you call the President a liar during his address of Congress. I have never witnessed such abhorrent behavior from a Republican and that includes the ones who like to pay hookers to dress them up in diapers and the ones who solicit men for sex in airport bathrooms. I will do everything in my power, including donating money to your opponent in the next election to insure you don't get re-elected and that's the truth.

Steven Vincent
Oklahoma City, OK

[stevedeshazer]

78. Good one.

I'm still trying to get through, but I will.

[Hepburn]

213. +1....

....:applause:

[unapatriciated]

227. You forgot the ones who like to spank lobbyists.

[Quasimodem]

38. Thanks for the address

I sent the following:

Subject:
Congratulations!

Text:
I was watching tonight's Presidential speech to Congress on the BBC Internet feed.
You just embarrassed yourself and your country before an international audience.

[dotymed]

73. I DID.........

[gopiscrap]

143. Thank you

[harvey007]

251. Wilson's website is down

Try to email or phone later to complain....his website is down and his phone is busy.

[spirit of wine]

10. Is this how it will be for 3 more years, hopefully 4 after that

A continuing smaller segment of the population acting like immature brats because their person is no longer up there. What will it take to get some regular adult behavior in those chambers? Oh, I'm sorry, what should I have expected these are politicians wind up acting no better than some kind of gangsters in nice suits sometimes. Geez.

Keep it down, Joe Wilson. Stop blaming others what you are more likely projecting about yourself.

[blossomstar]

230. The mob has way more honor than these repugs

[Danger Mouse]

11. What an immature dirtbag.

[ixion]

12. remember how we were told over and over by the GOP that the word 'lie' was out of bounds

whenever we'd talk about *?

Seems like it's okay now.

[wisteria]

13. All Americans should be outraged at this inappropriate conduct from a public servant toward our Pres...

[YvonneCa]

37. I agree. He should be censured...

...at the very least. I am sure Speaker Pelosi will handle it well. ;)

[MrMickeysMom]

122. I got a quick look at her reaction.

I'd like to see him slapped down but good.

[Zenlitened]

14. Republicans are assholes.

[Name removed]

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[RufusTFirefly]

115. Exactly. Wilson just proved that Van Jones was pulling his punches.

Calling Republicans "assholes" is way too kind.

[Enthusiast]

178. Noticed that, did ya?

:fistbump:

[viat0r]

15. Joe wilson (dirtbag) SC

I have tried to contact this guy using every means available to me. His phones were busy
His website was suffering from denial of serivce. LOL
Checking twitter and facebook
I have some choice words for him

[viat0r]

21. Hit him where it hurts

just contributed $25 to his Opponent Rob Miller https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/entity/19079 :)

[CanonRay]

66. Ditto

Bastard

[BonnieJW]

195. done

[tinrobot]

16. Why is this on the front page?

Why give this idiot any attention at all? He's playing the exact same game as those clowns at the town halls, shout loudly to distract people from the real discussion. Don't fall for it.

Eye on the ball, people, this is about healthcare, not about the sideshow clowns that are trying to ruin it.

[lib_wit_it]

131. See the money raised for Wilson's opponent in upcoming race.

[shanti]

147. whack a mole

that's what they're doing

[zbdent]

170. yeah, just ignoring him really worked in shutting down RW lies

who is this Rush Limbaugh guy? Never heard of him ... :sarcasm:

[katkat]

171. here's why it's on the front page

Here's why:

1. to shame him (fat chance)

2. maybe people will now donate to his opponent Rob Miller

[No Elephants]

246. Eye on what ball? Health care reform has been a joke for months.

[Mr. Sparkle]

19. It was pretty nasty, the Republicans have now set a new low in Decorum in Washington.

How low can they go?

Here is a photo of the Heckler



On Fox Business News, Karl Rove and host Neil Cavuto thought Wilson shouting at the President was hilarious. "Joe Wilson, good guy," said Rove. "Lovely," agreed Cavuto. (from tp.org)

[Iwillnevergiveup]

75. The 2 guys sitting on either side

of Wilson look a mite uncomfortable. And well they should.

[eagertolearn]

94. Are they all wearing American flag pins?

[BooBluePotion]

20. Barbaric Red State Trash

Raised by Jackals of course he has no manners. Asshole

[ThorDem]

22. Fort Sumter

Who started the last shit fight?

[harvey007]

24. Even McCain Was Offended By Rep. Wilson's Rude Heckling

Nancy Pelosi, please spank that a-hole!

:spank:

[BonnieJW]

197. No! He might like it.

[ezdidit]

26. Wilson could apologize.

and SC would be better for it. Unless he wants to reduce the respect of the rest of his SC delegation and insult his constituents so as to make them appear to be a dumbshit, bigoted & racist minority.

[Enthusiast]

180. Let's just elect Rob Miller instead. nt

[AlbertCat]

216. Wilson could apologize.

He has....

But it fell flat... hee hee hee:D

[Juche]

27. A black liberal will never earn their respect

Its not going to happen. Lets just face facts about these people.

Doesn't matter if he is a server at waffle house or the president.

[caraher]

36. Seems to me respect for the office is the issue

Certainly the previous president never earned any thinking person's respect, but in the midst of a speech like that you STFU and listen because it's the POTUS speaking.

It shows the contempt with which he evidently holds the very idea of democracy...

[hypocrisyandlies]

47. Exactly!

Respect has been the issue with every single controversy there has been so far. Birthers, deathers, the ridiculous townhallers, Obama's speech to school children, and now this. The problem is, these idiots will NEVER respect him. They demand respect for their own but when it comes to a black president, forget it!
:mad:

[shanti]

148. that's it in a nutshell

they'll never give him the respect he is due, but they demanded it for *ush who deserved NONE!

[Juche]

49. They don't respect democracy

These are authoritarian conservatives. Studies have shown they are highly undemocratic in their thinking. They support wingnuts with guns trying to intimidate politicians, they support voter suppression and election fraud, they commit tons of crimes in office.

They have always had these attitudes, its just that now the veil has been lifted and everyone can see it.

[caraher]

56. yep

Maybe an unexpected blessing of having a black moderate president (I don't think of Obama as especially "liberal") is that they are having a harder time maintaining a veneer of respectability. As they become unhinged by the reality of who is in office they unintentionally reveal just how antidemocratic they really are, which could really take a huge bite out of the RW's already-waning political clout.

The downside, of course, is that the crazies might also get more violent, and we've seen plenty of signs of that, too.

[ThorDem]

67. That's why we saddle up and ride

In my belief system we leave the vengeance to Tyr. You will never convince them. You have two choices. Kill them or leave them to Tyr. Split the Republic.

[No Elephants]

248. It's about civilty. I have no respect for the office, but I would not boo anyone giving a serious

speech in Congress. It's not a movie, ffs.

[ThorDem]

119. They've been indoctrinated

from birth to hate black people. Same for so many people here in AR.

[aquart]

132. Do they respect America? American democracy? Congress?

This is a sitting president of the United States. Bush didn't earn my respect but I never did that to him.

[AlbertCat]

218. Bush didn't earn my respect

Bush was also never actually elected.

[Blandocyte]

179. That is, sadly, a good point

I'm going to quote you to friends and repukes.

[No Elephants]

238. If you mean Obama, he's not liberal.

[JenniferJuniper]

28. To quote Bill Maher, if at first you don't secede...

[Name removed]

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[DeeDeeNY]

30. The teabaggers have a new hero

They are all lower than low.

[ThorDem]

135. Naturally

They will never give up, they will never give in. You ever see "Aliens?" Same thing here.

Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

[Blandocyte]

181. I guess the loss of perspective is contagious?

I don't think this calls for blood or orbiting nuking alien killing thingies. But what do I know?

[riverwalker]

31. "Addison Graves Wilson"

is his real name aka Joe Wilson.

[robo50]

39. Addison Graves?

What kind of name is THAT?

Sounds kind of BLACK to me!:sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[JenniferJuniper]

44. Sounds like a double disease to me.

[AlbertCat]

219. What kind of name is THAT?

It's that (fake) Southern Aristocrat thing of using surnames for Christian names. My family's full of 'em. (Mine's not so bad, but they call me by my middle name, Gray)

[veganlush]

32. yes, go to actblue.com and donate to his opponent

...miller....

[scarface2004]

33. should have yelled 'you lie n&*^%&er!!'

c mon joe...you can do better than that!

[Justitia]

34. That's your southern, racist, republican party at it's finest - right there! -eom

[TankLV]

35. What a pathetic waste of human skin...

Someone should tell him to just commit suicide, so his organs can at least be used for some other good...

[CitizenPatriot]

40. I twittered him

and called (busy). Also, we can donate to his opponent:

http://act.ly/iq

twitter info:

petition @CongJoeWilson to apologize for yelling "YOU LIE" in Obama speech, and lying about #hcr http://act.ly/iq RT to sign #p2

Rob Miller is the Democrat looking to unseat him. You can donate to him on ActBlue. He’s already raised over $5000 in about 30 minutes.

You can also call Rep. Wilson’s office at [phone] / [phone]

[kiranon]

41. Time to find the skeletons in Mr. Wilson's closet and to support his opponent.

Imagine there may be a racist line or two that he spoke in the past. Time to research his past statements and policies.

[pitchforksandtorches]

42. The country will not be safe until

The country will not be safe until every Republican is sedated and under the care of a mental health professional.

[Hulk]

43. Such scum in their ranks...

It's getting harder and harder to find something OTHER THAN scum in their ranks.

[yodoobo]

45. He should be charged with disorderly conduct

This schmuck is free to disagree, but that kind of behavior should not be tolerated should be punished.


If I had my way, he would be stripped of his office, but I suspect that is not a possibility.

[Serge A Storms]

48. a real life teabagger

[MyOwnPeace]

51. Joe - "You lie!"

How long has this tool been in office?
Did he make the same comment during the "WMD" presentations as the wing-nuts made their case for invading Iraq, including a State of the Union Address?
(I'm just kidding - I know he would have shown utmost respect for "*" :puke: :puke: :puke:)


I've sent the following to him:

Sir - and I use that address with more respect than you have shown the President of the United States:

Since it seems that you have served terms that date back into the Bush administration, where were your comments when the lies regarding the "Weapons of Mass Destruction" were presented?

Yeah, that's what I thought - they were lies given to you as you followed "lock-step" in line with your political agenda - wrong as it has proven to be.

You should hang your head in shame - but then again, I'm guessing you have NO idea about what shame is.

I ache for the shame that you have brought on to your wonderful state - and the sacred Halls of Congress.

[bertman]

52. Is there any precedent for this happening during a President's address to Congress?

If so, when and where?

I agree this deserves some form of censure by the Congress lest it become the norm.

[Name removed]

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[Technodaoist]

98. I await the links...

...and will be waiting a long time I think.

No other President has gotten shouted at during a speech to a joint session of Congress.

[Seeking Serenity]

202. Not uncommon

Dems did it to Bush, and Reps did it to Clinton.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200502040014

[JonQ]

215. But that's different

when dems did it it was to advance the dialogue and bring about a better tomorrow.

When reps did it it was because they are racist and hate freedom.

Is that about right? Did I cover all the talking points?

[bertman]

225. Thanks for the info, Seeking Serenity. I'll read more about it later.

[No Elephants]

250. However you slice it, the Republicans did it first.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

54. They have stepped over the line

and they are losing followers. We saw a patient in the clinic who last fall was all for Sarah Palin--and she said the GOP were idiots for dissing Obama's speech to the schoolkids. I gave her the link to the health care bill and told her a bit about it. She was very receptive. The GOP forgot they ingrained in their followers respect for the Presidency.

[ThorDem]

92. They're too stupid to figure that out man

Don't give them the benefit of the doubt. Crush them now while there's still time.

[2QT2BSTR8]

55. Amended for incorrect info - thank you.

[LynneSin]

58. That's the other Joseph Wilson, whose wife was outed by the Bush Admin as a CIA undercover ops

And former Ambassador Wilson has had a very long and distinguished career working with foreign policy in Africa. I highly doubt that this Joseph Wilson would be out there trying to benefit himself.

[Vidar]

62. They do have a sergent at arms for such occasions.

[MilesColtrane]

63. Sieg Heil, you brownshirt motherfucker!

See you on the trash heap of history, along with all of your fascist friends.

[kpete]

64. UPDATE

Late Update: Even too much for the haters? Rep. Wilson has reportedly now apologized for his outburst. His statement: "This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President's remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the President's statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility."
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/09/the_moment_of_shame.php

[Hissyspit]

65. Wilson in Violation of Rules of Decorum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6507077&mesg_id=6507077

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[A R S]

71. At least he apologized...

... but you know he doesn't regret it. That ****head.

[Technodaoist]

76. At least...

...it wasn't a non-apologetic "if you were offended" apology.

Seems to me he's hoping he gets off easy. He crossed a line and he knows it.

[NBachers]

68. My email message:

Dear Representative Wilson,

You are a disgrace to South Carolina.

You have brought dishonor to the House of Representatives.

You have brought shame to the Republican Party.

You will forever be stained by your unconsionable and boorish behavor during tonight's Presidential Address.

The American People do not deserve you representing them.

Resign immediately.

NBachers

On Edit: I got the following email message back when I submitted my email:

"UNATTENDED MAILBOX

I sincerely appreciate your taking the time to contact me. In an effort to better serve you, please visit my website at www.joewilson.house.gov or click this link provided http://www.house.gov/formwilson/IMA/issue.htm for your e-mail needs. From my website, I will be better able to respond to your concerns."

I went to the link and it had the usual name, address, etc. fill-out, and pasted the message into the comments section. I used my own name and email, but I googled a Bojangles Chicken 'n' Biscuits address in Columbia, SC and used it as my address. It went through fine.

[Technodaoist]

80. I used my own addy...

And pretty much told him he could ignore my message if he wanted to based on the fact I wasn't a constituent.

It didn't matter because my money spends in SC as well as OH, so he just gave his opponent my money.

[Talisyn]

82. Great e-mail Nbachers

Your response has been one of the best I've seen yet.
I took the liberty of correcting a couple spelling errors, and took it over to Facebook with your name credited!Thanks for formulating such a good response.

[NBachers]

124. Yeah- I lost an eye awhile back, and don't spot spelling errors like I used to

One of those "working for a company with no insurance" stories. I used to be a real spelling nazi, but my one good eye sometimes feels like a worn-out retread. I don't always catch spelling mistakes anymore. I guess I'll have to use spell-check more often now.

[McCamy Taylor]

72. Congress is full of trash.

[ThorDem]

89. Reminds me of some 3rd world banana republic

[AlbertCat]

223. Reminds me of some 3rd world banana republic

Y'mean like the UK?

I agree with Barney Frank. It's a free country. Let'em yell. It only hurt Wilson, not the Prez. It's a sign of their helplessness and frustration. Proof they have no ideas and nothing to contribute. The Party of No.

[dhpgetsit]

74. See? Republicans ARE Assholes!

Was there ever any doubt?

[ThorDem]

90. None

[wisteria]

77. He has now apologized according to CNN. I think we need to let this go know. n/t

[ThorDem]

88. NO

Let Tyr take his vengeance upon him but don't you ever forget. You take up your hammer and you fight. You don't let anything go anymore.

[Cobalt-60]

164. he gets his shot and snivels off? Not a f*cking chance

Not in my neighborhood.

[JTFrog]

185. Let it go?

W....T....F....


:eyes:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

79. did he get spanked by the RNC?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

81. Compare and contrast:

The Dems NEVER did that to Bush in Congress.

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[Seeking Serenity]

200. Yes, they did. At a State of the Union address. (n/t)

[ThorDem]

83. Discipline?

I've been censured on other forums because of "regional discrimination."

I'm in the region that's being discriminated against. These people are barbarians. He would rather shoot you than agree with you. Believe me. He sits in cigar smoke filled rooms and makes fun of pansy liberals and swears he would love to shoot them all.

You are not dealing with reality. These people are not reasonable or rational. They are evil, hateful and do not even give powerless animals the common courtesy of life.

His apology is false for convenience.

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[ThorDem]

86. You're a jackass

That's my rebuttal. We're going to beat you. You're going to lose. You remember I said that.

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[truthisfreedom]

96. What did you do when bushler claimed "Mission Accomplished" and then drove the economy into the

ditch? Vote republic again? Seriously, you people have got to stop sucking the kool-aide.

[ThorDem]

97. Blasphemy itself could not survive religion; if anyone doubts that, let him try to blaspheme Odin.

[Sin]

101. Another fossil for the box.

Your kind will pass to the dustbin of history. could you plz hasten your passing your self.

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[Sin]

112. Aww did i hit a nerve

Your mind set is outmoded your dead to history you and your contribution will be laughed at and Jeered at for years to come You are a Relic with hope you had offspring so you can watch them change as well to something better then you.

[neverforget]

121. And if this had been done to your hero Bush Jr? You would have been

throwing a fit.

[truthisfreedom]

93. So you're a racist piece of shit? Living with yourself is your own punishment.

And you're stuck with that forever, you wasted piece of filth.

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[Technodaoist]

104. Denial is the first step...

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[Technodaoist]

113. Mind explaining what that has to do with healthcare reform and Wilson's ouburst?

[thelordofhell]

99. Enjoy your pizza

[Technodaoist]

102. You can't rebut stupidity

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[Technodaoist]

118. dictionary.com is your friend

rebut

1. to refute by evidence or argument.
2. to oppose by contrary proof.

–verb (used without object) 3. to provide some evidence or argument that refutes or opposes.



I have yet to see any evidence of anything... much less evidence of your intelligence.

Who's trolling who now?

[K Gardner]

103. Why is this racist diatribe still here? An example of the disgusting filth we're dealing with.

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[DWilliamsamh]

95. My Letter to Rep. Joe Wilson (Wingnut -SC)

Subject: Your Reprehensible Behavior

Body

Rep. Wilson,

I have to say I was shocked by your appalling lack of civility and respect for not just the President of the United States personally, but for the Office of the President. The joint session was called by President Obama in his constitutional capacity as the Chief Executive Officer of the coequal Executive branch of our nation's government. This wasn't some town hall in a gym. Your interruption of his speech to the joint session was inexcusable breech of decorum between the branches of government, not to mention rude beyond anything that would EVER been tolerated by your party if aimed at the Former President, George W. Bush by a Democratic Representative.

The WORST part was that your accusation that the President was lying was absolutely and demonstrably false. According to HR 3200 Sec 246:

H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States

So you were not only egregiously disrespectful - in a feed broadcast around the WORLD, embarrassing not just yourself but your country, but you were completely wrong about the Bill most likely to come out of YOUR house of congress.

BTW your written non-apology is completely inadequate - since it hinges on your assertion that "I disagree with the President’s statement..." It wasn't a "statement" President Obama was stating a FACT. Facts aren't a matter of opinion. You might as well "disagree" with a statement that the earth revolves around the sun.

For the sake of the Nation and all of us interested in serious and sincere efforts to reform a health care system, that is shedding 14,000 people a month, and has led to more than 50% of the nations bankruptcies, you should resign. Leave the serious work of legislation to serious people, not immature kindergarten level dogamatists.

To help make sure that happens - regardless of whether you have enough respect for this nation to resign - I am donating money to your opponent, Rob Miller for SC-02. I hope we will be rid of you soon, one way or the other.



With Sincere Disappointment and Contempt,



Douglas S. Williams

address and phone number included in original e-mail - just in case this jerk actually has the balls to respond

[HEyHEY]

107. Meh, they heckle all the time in Canadian parliament

Shit, one guy even challenged another to a fistfight once.

[workinclasszero]

111. Republicans are low life scum traitors

The anti American republican filth that screamed "you lie" interrupting the president's speech needs to be tarred, feathered and ridden out of Washington DC on a f**kin rail!

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[workinclasszero]

123. Go back to mom's basement freep

You slime are crawling into the dustbin of history along with your traitorous leaders Ray-gun, Adolf Bush, and Glennie Beck and his magic underwear! Oh yeah and dope addict child molester Rush Limpballs!

Your party FAILED! Your capitalist, "free market" FAILED! Your atheist god Ayn Rand was WRONG! You are EPIC FAIL!!!!!

[d_b]

158. pwnt

[SusanaMontana41]

120. Ugly and disrespectful.

See, Mr. President, what you're up against? Does he sound like someone who wants to work with you?

[elbram]

125. I think this guy's main goal was to distract the media from the content of the speech

Mission Accomplished

[John in Cincy]

126. ActBlue link to donate to Rob Miller, Joe Wilson's opponent

http://www.actblue.com/page/kossacks4miller

[Seldona]

129. He should resign. Immediately. In disgrace.

What the hell is happening in this country? These people are the worst bunch of crybaby, sore losers, I can recall.

[marew]

136. Could not agree more!

Someone who has such little self-control should not be in Congress. What an example for any kid watching! He insulted the democratically elected President. He insulted everyone who voted for President Obama! He should resign immediately.

[krabigirl]

134. Wow..what an idiot.

[sabrina 1]

138. And to think they threw Cindy Sheehan out of the House

for wearing a shirt remembering dead troops.

He was out of order and should have been removed from the chamber.

His apology is worthless. Donating to his opponent is the best way to handle this, I agree.

[Flyover John]

139. There is a precedent

TED KOPPEL (ABC host): When the president talked about the bankruptcy of Social Security, there were clearly some Democrats on the floor who thought that that was taking it too far. And they did something that, apparently, no one at this table has ever heard before. They booed.

JOHN ROBERTS (CBS White House correspondent): At a couple points in this address, it looked more like the British Parliament than the United States Congress. I’ve never heard the minority party shout at the president during the State of the Union address.

JOE SCARBOROUGH (former U.S. representative (R-FL) and MSNBC host): After the Democrats booed and hissed, Republicans were on the floor saying, you know, we never once did that to Clinton. So every time he would talk about Social Security, the roars got a little louder. And they got behind their president.

BOB BARR (former U.S. representative (R-GA) and CNN contributor): It will be a very, very difficult battle as we saw by the unprecedented and, I think, highly improper virtual booing of the president when he simply said that the system is going to be bankrupt and the time is now to fix it.

[FriendlyReminder]

259. Wow! If this is true, it is VERY embarrassing for our side. I would hope that

we would have better manners than those Repukes. Personally I don't care if you only have 3 posts and where you came from. If this happened to the Shrub, then we should be embarrassed for ourselves.

[ashling]

141. Would some reporter ask him specifically what Obama lied about

and hold his feet to the fire, make him be specific and show how he lied - point to the section of a bill, etc.?

After that, ask him, because "Americans want to know": "Were you raised in a barn? Raised by Wolves, perhaps?"

:rofl:

[gopiscrap]

144. Thank you

[gaspee]

150. Unbelievable

Democrats never once yelled at the War Criminal In Chief, who was a PROVEN Liar - and I don't want to look, but I bet this guy is Fux News' new hero.

The GOP make me sick.

[FVZA_Colonel]

151. Pelosi and Biden just looked like disappointed parents during that.

Biden's frown and downward turn of his head, Pelosi looking around so quickly ('who said that?!')...

[zonkers]

152. When it comes to disgusting behavior in chambers he has a long way to go to beat out Preston Brooks.

Ironically, also a fellow Carolinian.

[defendandprotect]

153. Imagine if any Dem had dared to do this to W . . . !!! IMO, we should be

as vocal and angry about this as they would be!

OTOH . . . I'm hoping that this is a sign that the "for profit" health care industry

is putting intense pressure on the GOP -- and causing them to have to search for their

"thugs" to put them on the streets!!

I don't want to act like a Repug -- but I do hope that during this week people who are

aware of what happened here will be commenting on it -- to one another -- to Wilson and

the GOP, in general -- and to MSM . . !!!

Kinda looks like the GOP is having a nervous breakdown ... ????

[wroberts189]

252. Yep I can imagine: If any Dem ever did this pubs would DEMAND resignation. nt

[Trav1u]

154. independent thinkers...NOT.

Just wait until you hear in a few hours the spin that bloated crack-head puts on Joe W infantile outburst. Once he delivers his marching orders, watch out for his minions parroting exactly what he says-lol @ “independent thinkers”.

[JCMach1]

156. Can Pelosi unilaterally strip him of committees?

If so, do it!

[sorrowspath]

157. Let's not allow the bastard to get away with it just because

he said sorry in a half ass way (which I don't think is sincere by the way and I think has more to do with protecting their public image)
Let's continue supporting his political rival and digging his dirt. If that's the way they use their democracy and freedom, then we'll gladly use our own freedom to uncover every crap that they're hiding.

[specialed]

160. What can you expect from a state that has people running around banging horses...

not once...but twice....same horse too.

Fuck South Carolina!

[NecklyTyler]

162. Hatred from the right wing - the Republicans showing their true colors

[NecklyTyler]

163. K&R

[woo me with science]

165. Somebody needs to photoshop him wearing pink.

:rofl:

[katkat]

166. Send money to his opponent

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/471063/challenger_to_you_lie_congressman_cashes_in_after_speech

"The words "you lie" will live in infamy for Joe Wilson, the overheated Republican Congressman who shouted at President Obama during his address to a joint session of Congress on Wednesday. Beyond criticism and a swift apology, the incident has already provided a fundraising bonanza for Wilson's opponent, Rob Miller, a Democrat and Marine Corps veteran."

It says Miller has raised $50,000 since Wilson's diarrhea of the mouth. Surely we can do better than $50,000, don't you think?

[ScottLand]

167. The biggest mistake was letting tea-baggers

sit in seats that were supposed to be reserved for United States Congressmen.

[Syntheto]

172. Well, at least he didn't throw a shoe at him...

[Technodaoist]

175. Just what does that mean?

Your implication that the Repubs are somehow the hapless victims of Obama's policies is wrong.

Your implication that an Iraqi press conference is somehow the same as a joint session of congress is wrong.

Your implication that Joe Wilson and an Iraqi reporter are somehow held to the same standard is wrong.

Your implication that an unjust war based on lies is the same as the healthcare debate is wrong.




False Equivalency - its all the rage!

[YewNork]

173. His behavior was wrong and he should apologize on the House floor, not just over the phone.

He showed blatant disrespect for the President and what he did at a joint session of Congress was wrong.

And I'd say that regardless of whether a Democrat or Republican was the heckler and whether a Democrat or Republican was the President.

[YewNork]

174. His behavior was wrong and he should apologize on the House floor, not just over the phone.

He showed blatant disrespect for the President and what he did at a joint session of Congress was wrong.

And I'd say that regardless of whether a Democrat or Republican was the heckler and whether a Democrat or Republican was the President.

[Rebubula]

176. What a dick....eom

[VaYallaDawg]

184. Sad as it is, Wilson just guaranteed his own reelection in his cracker district.

[Rebubula]

204. Very nice...

...throw race into the debate.

Awesome job.

How would it play if the races were reversed and we said the 'Mayor Nagin just guaranteed his reelection in his Chocolate District'?

[deacon]

186. Obama should officially declare this "The Gop are Assholes Week" between this and the school speech

...it would certainly be warranted. A national awareness that should be celebrated every year.

[Politicub]

187. Republicans are bullies with no substance

And like the schoolyard variety, they act out from insecurity and fear. Not that they don't cause disruption, but Obama has proven over and over that he can put bullies in their place.

It was incredibly disrespectful for a member of congress to disrupt the president, more so than the teabaggers at town hall meetings interrupting their congressmen. But it does put on full display the extend of the GOP meltdown. It's driving them insane.

[deacon]

188. It's like they are like a bunch of 8 year olds stamping their feet. Their party continues to fall

apart, and not ONE of them has the brains or the guts to drag them from their future demise.

[Can of Whoop-ass]

189. Censure

Gingrich was censured because Congress was handcuffed over the Clinton set up, by the adultering pedophile Newt and Newt was never re-elected.

Like Ollie North, Gingrich and FOX Noise thinks Americans have forgot.

Americans will never forgive republicans. Best bet for the GOP? Emmigrate and start your own Dixieland, with cotton field and slaves.

[customerserviceguy]

191. While pretty much everything above is true

the fact remains: he got his point across. Even though he apologized, and he may get some sort of censure, he made his point, and the President's remarks about universal healthcare not applying to those here illegally is one part of the speech that will be remembered. It may even have put a bright spotlight on verification procedures as the bill moves along through Congress.

Don't we wish that we had someone on our side saying, "You lie!" when Bushco took us to war over and over again? That's the point of the town hallers, they raise a ruckus, just like we used to do when the enemy was Nixon and the cause was Vietnam.

[2manycats8]

192. new gov???

betcha joe wilson goes after sanford's job when the s.c. gov is forced to resign. wilson was appealing to the s.c. redneck base.

[avebury]

193. my email to Joe Wilson

This is the body of the email that I sent to Rep. Wilson:


I watched the President's speech last night. Congratulations! You just embarrassed yourself, your party, your state, and your country before the entire world. Your outburst was unproductive, petty, and brings nothing to the table to achieve true health care reform. If you are unwilling or unable to provide positive input into the health care debate then you are in the wrong profession and not an asset to your state.

[VaYallaDawg]

198. Excellent email! And welcome to DU.

[marew]

196. Just tried to call the jerk in Washington. Phone number below.

Joe Wilson

South Carolina-2nd, Republican
212 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515-4002
Phone: [phone]

It is busy now, of course, but I will continue to call till I get through if it takes a year!

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[chrisa]

201. i couldn't believe how disrespectful they were.

Republicans are a bunch of babies.

[Odin2005]

205. This is outrageous behavior

:grr:

[jeremyfive]

208. Another Disgusting Republican Pig--I'm Sure This Surprises No One

Glad to hear that his opponent received thousands of dollars in donations after this repulsive outburst.

My friends in South Carolina are livid at the meldown in leadership evidenced by the Republicans in their state. (They were still struggling with their Republican governors disappearances for extramarital nookie visits in Argentina.)

Disgusting.

[supermodel]

209. Donate

I've just donated to his opponent. He will pay for this one!

[Joey Liberal]

211. WILSON IS CLASSLESS JERK nt

[tonekat]

217. Wilson's Outburst will be remembered....

...as the first gasping death rattle of the Republican Party.

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[efhmc]

226. My e-mail to this sad excuse for a representative of the voters.

Your behavior toward the President of the United State was disgraceful. You should be made to stand up in the same body and make a public apology, not only for what you so inappropriately bellowed but to acknowledge the fact that your remark was totally erroneous, i.e.: a lie.

[harun]

232. When you see his facial expression I think it is clear that not only do

these Republicans not respect the President, they hate him.

[bushisanidiot]

233. I'm waiting for those assholes to start demanding that they be allowed to

carry guns with them to join sessions of congress.

They are doing more to hurt their cause than they will ever realize because they are so blinded by their hatred for the President of the United States of America.

[kpominville]

235. Support Wilson's Democratic opponent

He has already raised over a quarter of a million dollars since last night.

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079

[bejamin wood]

240. Obama should have...

...taken off his shoes and thrown them at Rep. Wilson!!!

[harvey007]

249. Here's the Joe Wilson fundraising website

Here's the jerk's fundraising website:

https://www.completecampaigns.com/public.asp?name=Wilson&page=2

[demigoddess]

254. let's face it, they just hate the fact that a black man is in the WH and is popular

with so much of the world. Makes them and their icon GWB look stupid.

[Raine]

256. Low class trash repukes are the scum of the Earth

NEVER did our side act like that even with the thief Chimperior. :-(

[paparush]

257. No one in SC heard this because Foxxxx didn't carry the speech.