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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 07:56 AM
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Worker Status Checks to Start
Source: Wall Street Journal

"Agencies across the federal government on Tuesday will start ordering contractors to use an electronic system to verify whether their employees are eligible to work in the U.S.

The sweeping new mandate, crafted by the Bush White House but being implemented by the Obama administration, represents a significant expansion for the so-called E-Verify system, which government officials and independent experts expect to eventually become mandatory for private employers. Already, some states require companies operating within their borders to use it, regardless of whether the companies have government contracts."

"The Obama administration is using the program as part of its efforts to shift the emphasis in immigration enforcement by focusing on employers. Under the mandate, a clause requiring contractors and subcontractors to use the government's E-Verify system will be written into every new or renewed government contract starting Tuesday. It will also be written into every new work order issued under existing contracts, officials say. It will be up to government agencies that issue the contracts to enforce the mandate."

"Once a contractor is operating under the new clause, it will have to check the legal eligibility of every employee working on a government project through a secure Web site. The E-Verify system compares data entered by employers with records maintained in Social Security Administration and immigration databases."



Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125236773673291025.html
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:15 AM
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1. No such thing.
"a government project through a secure Web site"

And some moran would probably have the data on a laptop and then lose it.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:45 AM
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2. When I worked alongside illegals
They had recieved legal names and numbers from somewhere for their use. I'm not sure they'd be found even with this 'superdooper' electronic system.

I can't fault my employers at the time tho, these were the Reagan years and I suspect they were part of the sanctuary movement. I had a doctor washing my dishes for awhile...
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:38 AM
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3. They'd almost certainly be caught.
Comparing name, SSN, and even address, it's hard to keep the stolen or "accidentally duplicated" identity.

When "Gertrude McFarland," of Edgewood, MD, aged 67, has a SSN that matches the 28-year-old living in Dallas, TX, you can be that there's something suspicious. "Gertrude" would have the choice of correcting within X number of days what obviously must be a mistake, or being fired.

In fact, a lot of the names and numbers don't match up.

Oddly, it was during the Reagan years, in '86, that Congress mandated that employers check employee eligibility (i.e., immigration status, if any) and that a database be set up for this purpose. It was politically expedient to pass the law, it was politically expedient not to fund the creation of the database. And without the database, you can't enforce the law, now can you?

Note that a mandate to have all private employers use this system, IIRC, is stalled in the 9th Circuit Court.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:44 AM
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5. This probably will leads to the creation of the national ID
something republicans were fearing during the Reagan's years
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zogofzorkon Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 10:35 AM
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7. First the employee has to be on the books
Private employers of cash businesses have been known to divert some of that cash to pay workers not on payroll.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:36 PM
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8. Perhaps now.
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 03:36 PM by juno jones
They didn't when I brushed with it.

These weren't typical illegals either. I can only speculate about what I suspect was going on.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 04:43 PM
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10. Racial profiling based on assumptions n/t
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:41 AM
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4. I'll just wait to see when racial profiling start with this system
"the legal eligibility of every employee working"
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:58 AM
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6. There's absolutely nothing wrong with enforcing existing laws
which require employers to ensure employees have lawful eligibility to be employed. Everyone who works for a legit employer fills out an I-9 form, regardless of nationality or ethnicity.

Contrary to popular opinion, it is actually not that difficult to discern a fake green card from a real one if you know what you are looking for. I've had many job applicants who have showed me some fake green cards that were absolutely absurd, including one indicating the citizenship as "Punjabi."

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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 04:39 PM
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9. I-9 is required but E-Verify is free and voluntary
So the employer can choose who will be verified using the internet and who's not
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