Aides: President to be 'very forceful' in Wednesday address

[kpete]

Source: CNN

September 7, 2009
Aides: President to be 'very forceful' in Wednesday address
Posted: September 7th, 2009 08:18 PM ET

From CNN Senior White House Correspondent Ed Henry

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The top aides say the president is putting his own strong imprint on the speech to Congress. After advisers last week submitted various thoughts on what the speech should say, Obama spent much of the weekend at Camp David crafting the actual address, which currently is running about 37 minutes in draft form.

"He will be very forceful," one senior Obama aide said about the tone of the speech. "He will be making the case for action."

A second senior Obama aide said that while the president knows that a rousing organized labor crowd is a much different audience than a joint session of Congress — along with millions of Americans watching on television Wednesday night — Monday's speech set the stage for what will be a more aggressive case for reform than the public has seen thus far.

"He will make a strong case Wednesday night on what health-care reform means to Americans," the second aide said on Monday. "Today you began to see a preview of what you will see Wednesday night."

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/07/aides-president-to-be-very-forceful-in-wednesday-address/

[Greenpeach]

1. Let's hope it is...

no more Mr. Nice Guy.

[AzNick]

18. Yes and rather "Mr. the President We Elected" nt

[FreakinDJ]

2. Forceful meaning he'll debunk GOP Lies

Still on the defensive

I watched a portion of he speech today - and I got to admit it appears Obama is back and He's Bad to the Bone

[Jefferson23]

3. Oh that is GREAT to hear!

[SweepPicker]

5. Good

But I'm sure the thugs will find a way to twist this around as well.

[Number23]

20. "I got to admit it appears Obama is back and He's Bad to the Bone"

Ummmm.... to alot of us, Obama has never been anything BUT bad to the bone. And he's not "back" from anything because he never left! :)

[Robber M]

4. He'd BETTER be!

I've had enough kum-ba-fucking-ya!

[mikekohr]

6. BaRocky Obama is the political heavyweight champion of the world

He'll float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.
We'll get a good health care bill, you can trust me.

mike kohr

[yourout]

7. I prefer "The Rock" Obama.

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/the-rock-obama/1056126/

[mikekohr]

23. That;'s great! nt

[reclinerhead]

25. Bwahaha

Thanks for the link and the morning laugh.

[Bluenorthwest]

8. Today was better. The school speech is also excellent

and I am glad he is taking the time to say those things to kids. It is not a dash off, stay in school speech, it is clearly advice that comes from a passion for education and the sparking of potentials.
May Wednesday be a clarion call.

[nolabear]

9. Wouldn't it be funny if while everyone was running around

with their hair on fire Obama was actually doing his job, which is not to answer every criticism on either the right or the left, but to craft a strong health care bill and push it through Congress? Why, it would be just like he was president!

[Iowa]

11. We have seen absolutely no evidence of what you are suggesting...

... and a great deal of evidence to the contrary.

If he actually crafts a health care bill with a strong public option and pushes it through Congress, as you seem to think he is doing secretly behind the scenes, then we can celebrate. But based upon his miserable track record so far, this is a guy who should receive no accolades until he actually delivers the goods. We're dealing with a man who will say one thing and then do another, without the slightest compunction, so it's best to pay attention to what he delivers in the end while taking every word he says with a grain of salt. He has yet to earn anyone's trust - except the corps.

[Matariki]

21. "But based upon his miserable track record so far"

That's just bullshit. Obama's done more good in eight months in office than Bush did in eight years, including reversing a bunch of crap Bush left us with.

[Iowa]

26. I disagree...

First, I reject the notion of evaluating a President using Bush as a benchmark. An amoeba would look good compared to the criminals in the Bush administration. Many of them should be behind bars... hardly a standard to measure by.

Second, on the issues that have mattered most so far (health-care, war, torture, & bailouts) Obama has aligned with the corps, the military/industrial complex, the Bush administration, and Wall Street bankers to the considerable detriment of the people of this country. He is a weak, lightweight, DLC corporatist masquerading as a Democrat... a likely one-termer whose fumbling and bumbling may lead to a disastrous Palin or Romney in 2012. Hell, he hardly even bothers to disguise his contempt for progressive ideals, yet we still have people here defending his shameful record.

Take a moment to read this. It sums it up fairly well: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/05-5

[sendero]

35. Exactly my impression...

.. the thing that Obama does best of all is TALK. His speeches ALWAYS lift my spirits.

His actions likewise ALWAYS fall short of his rhetoric. That we're even at this point, with the possibility of any meaningful health care reform almost unlikely, is testament to his lack of action and lack of enforcement of discipline within his party. For the "brilliant politician" he is touted to be, he is getting nowhere fast.

It is almost too late to salvage this effort IMHO. I'll eat my words if and when he proves me wrong.

[JDPriestly]

17. We're all hoping you are right, NolaBear.

[ProSense]

10. No matter what Obama says, naysayer

will hear something different

[scentopine]

13. Education is important - but we are forgetting the main problem

Corporate America is outspending every municipality in the United States training a work force in Asia. Is it because their schools are better and they are smarter? No.

They work for $5 to $7 an hour fully loaded costs. No benefits. You get sick, you get fired.

It is a cold hard fact, that while property taxes are going up to pay for computers in elementary schools, your fortune 500 company is spending far more train Bangalore, India to use computers.

It is also a cold hard fact that your kids who had computers in elementary schools are at extreme risk for losing their job to a guy in Bangalore who likely didn't use his first computer until he was 22. Some are seeing high tech computerized processes for the first time. Many have no schooling that is comparable to US public schools.

We can't educate ourselves to $5 an hour no matter how much rhetoric.

So, when Obama takes a breather from lecturing us on our behavior, don't lose sight of the fact that none of this will change anything until (just like health care) we stop blaming the public for a problem brought on by the Democratic and Republican RIght-wing "Centrists" who believe the free market will solve all of our problems.

Kids see Wall Street fat cats and gangland thugs as one in the same. They are smart and correct in this assessment. When Obama is ready to lecture Wall Street about the real problems facing the nation and the corporate influence, greed and corruption, I'll be more willing to listen to him lecture my straight A kids who, like me, will have to fight against $5 an hour in India no matter how hard we work, no matter how high our GPA, no matter noteworthy our achievements.

We need someone to hold Wall Street accountable, instead we get lectures on behavior. We have had a MAJOR f'n financial DISASTER caused by "the best and brightest" (by their own admission) on Wall Street. That's why they claim they need $320K a year avg plus bonuses. For retention. But then they upgrade every company outsourcing to the lowest wages in Asia.

Does Obama and DLC think we are stupid? Partly, yes. Most won't notice the hypocrisy. They don't teach how to recognize that in standardized testing. Everyone values education and the first lesson in life, however, is to learn when you are being taken for a fool.

So after the work hard and stay in school speech (uncontroversial and safe territory), how about a speech about Wall Street greed and corruption and their amoral and unethical behavior, of which there are plenty of examples. Start with why its amoral/immoral to start a company that sells health insurance to people and then denies payment when people get hurt or get sick. Or to charge outrageous fees for drugs and services that can save lives. Or to strip mine poor people with shitty mortgages.

Now, that would be a lecture worth listening to for those of us who already make sure our kids work hard and do the right thing against the prevailing sentiment that money (no matter how you get it) is the most important thing in life. Democratic Party silence on these facts says it all. Its a nod to Wall Street and the social conservatives and social democrats who share a common right-wing belief in the "purity" of the free market no matter what the cost and differ in politics only on a few wedge issues (even these are becoming indistinct).

[Deja Q]

29. Excellent response! Please make an OP of it.

:thumbsup:

[scentopine]

32. Thanks, I've tried a few times, I just get hammered with unrecs - lol

[dr_aswan]

12. or forceful in trying to sell the no public option plan..????

[Tim01]

14. I'll believe action when I see action. No more faith in fancy speeches. nt

[Left Coast2020]

15. He will hit it out of the park. Have faith.

[Tim01]

16. I don't care if it is a nice speech. It is still just a speech. A speech doesn't do anything.

It makes people feel different. That is not substance. We got to where we are right now on the biggest wave of "feelings" this country has seen in a very long time, we got Obama and his team, we got a foundation. But the rest is the actual work.
More speeches that show people how very much they like Obama, don't actually accomplish anything,he is already elected.

I will wait to see the actual actions.

[liquid diamond]

19. It's up to congress to draft an acceptable bill. Don't put everything

on Obama.

[Deja Q]

30. A speech gets people to spend money to support their wallet - oops, I mean their cause.

That's where it begins.

That happens after you pony up the money is another issue of debate...

A lot of the President's actions have been good.

We'll know what gets said tomorrow.

[bennythecat]

22. Forceful?

It's not forceful unless he promises to Veto a bill that does not have a robust public option.

Will he?

[samsingh]

24. he just needs to put facts on the table.

[bamacrat]

27. He really needs to be the children in Congress need to be dealt with.

It's sad that the president has to act like a parent and tell congress their fucking around and ruining peoples lives for them to take him seriously. I have a feeling that many will say he's being too professorial and like a dictator. Helping people is a bad phrase in this country. Hope he stands up and rips tthem a new ass.

[Algorem]

28. how did The O-Man decide to give this most important speech on 9/9/9?

999 is 666 upside-down.What does that mean?Is it holy?Evil?

Is The O-Man into numerology or sumpthing?

Did God tell him to do this?Satan?Moses?Madonna?Jesus?Billy Barty?Allah?Master Ho?Chun King?Bob?

What's the deal?

[Patsy Stone]

31. He timed it with release of The Beatles remasters.

That's my guess.

[Algorem]

33. uh oh.helter skelter time.he's going to let charles manson out to run the death panels.

[Nihil]

34. 999 in the UK = 911 in the US ...

... phone number for the emergency services ...

(Just thought I'd mention it!) :hi

[Algorem]

36. the pick 4 ohio lottery number last night was 9666.something very sinister is happening.

plus the walls seem to be breathing.

[kestrel91316]

37. Forceful in support of a vigorous public option that won't bankrupt us little guys, I hope.

I don't want one fucking dime of my hard-earned money to go toward enriching insurance company CEO's. I want it all to go directly to actual medical care, like with Medicare.

And I want Medicare available at age 55.

[marshall]

38. Might as well go balls out as not

He's bound to anger either the blue dogs on the one hand or the rest of the party on the other.

So why is that even a difficult choice?