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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:22 AM Original message |
Sebelius: Obama OK with insurance co-ops |
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mystieus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. I guess its true.. Obama already made a deal and all this theater is just for show. |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. So Is The Focus Now Only On Passing Any Kind Of Bill That They Can..... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Why did you use the word "now?" |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
62. Because With Each Passing Day During This (As CNN Puts It) Make or Break Month....... |
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Frank Booth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Obama sees it. |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #73 |
160. He a con and a corporate tool, that's pretty clear now. |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #160 |
188. There's the Democratic party, the rethug party and the corporatist party. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #188 |
315. What choice did we have? McCain was a non starter, and Hillary symbolized the DLC |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #160 |
337. You will definitely be voting for him again. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #337 |
359. i won't. i don't care who the repugs run. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #359 |
385. Yes, Let's put Bush back in office.REpukes have no plans or answers |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #385 |
386. One man cannot change it all.Can't fix republican disaster fast enough |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #386 |
387. Repubs offer nothing.They are still the Bush disaster.There would be no reform even on the table |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #387 |
388. This is not the "all or nothing" moment.Must keep pushing these dems as only chance |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #385 |
407. he's already served his two terms...but there's always jeb. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #337 |
361. no, they probably will not be voting for Obama - the problem, you see, is when you keep getting |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #337 |
419. Like hell I will! |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #160 |
340. It does't matter who you vote for. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #340 |
391. Vote against the money party???hahahahahahaha.Last chance dems or corporatism |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #340 |
417. Ludicrous... |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #73 |
377. He always was naive |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #73 |
412. Will has little to do with it. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #62 |
82. I meant that, IMO, it's been apparent for a while that Obama |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #82 |
139. Unsuccessful healthcare reform will hurt his chances for re-election |
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veritasvg (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #139 |
181. Uh... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #139 |
219. I think that not passing any bill at all, with an overwhelmingly Democratic Congress |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #139 |
231. "nonprofit insurance cooperatives" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #231 |
268. Regardless of what the OP says, the correct term is not for profit. And it probably doesn't |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #231 |
404. Weren't those Blue Cross and Blue Shield? Then they went "for profit". |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #82 |
187. Of course, people keep hoping, but it is clear that he is no FDR re health care . . . |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #187 |
257. He's no FDR, period. |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #257 |
279. Bingo. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #187 |
356. But you must remember |
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TheEuclideanOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #82 |
198. Yeah, and watch his poll number drop. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
87. why not? |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Depressing. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. So, when Obama said "we are" the change," he was relying on America's long tradition of taking to |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
108. when do Americans REALLY take to the streets ? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Please don't hijack this thread. It's not about France. Thanks. |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. I didn't start to relate |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #118 |
146. If you thought I was engaging in wishful thinking, then you totally misunderstood my post. If you |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #146 |
255. Why are you being so rude? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #255 |
310. Do you feel he needs a referee? |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #110 |
121. That's right it's not about France. |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #121 |
126. Agree with everything you posted. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #121 |
128. really needs to be it's own OP. Really. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #128 |
365. +1 |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:01 PM Original message |
I wish you weren't so right. But you are. This is a truly depressing reality. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #121 |
143. Where are you posting from ? |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #143 |
172. I'm here in Los Angeles |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #172 |
190. You have the option of moving... |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #190 |
196. Really, diabetics have options????? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #196 |
212. Type 1 or 2? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #212 |
298. I want to live in France personally, but my son likes the |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #298 |
301. Beautiful places... |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #301 |
322. Hawai is nice, but the Island Fever gets to many in about 3 years |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #196 |
215. Most diabetics have options. . |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #190 |
267. Try Venezuela. |
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abq e streeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #172 |
270. Sorry to hear of all this horrible stuff that happened to you and your family. |
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undergroundnomore (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #270 |
343. I'm also heartbroken |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #343 |
373. Sometimes the patient needs more care than any one person can provide and |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #270 |
415. I am so sorry to hear of your troubles. |
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abq e streeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #415 |
421. thanks for the kind words---my troubles are very minor compared to what you've been through |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #172 |
295. Not to change the subject Joe Bacon b/c I totally agree |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #295 |
299. Secured assets such as cars and houses.. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #299 |
302. What???? You'll have to break that down a little more, please. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #302 |
309. For instance... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #309 |
312. That's similar to my original understanding. Thanks. n/t |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #295 |
324. Dad kept refinancing |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #324 |
328. Gotcha. Thanks. n/t |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #172 |
320. I see that you have discovered the Fraud. |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #121 |
148. Excellent post. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #148 |
154. Oh, please. No one here is crying foul because he is not perfect. |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #148 |
180. He surrendered on single payer. |
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susanr516 (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:38 PM Original message |
That's what I fear |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #148 |
263. Obama isn't "up against something" . . . he's part of it -- !!! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #121 |
152. This really is not the thread to debate whether America is more selfish than France or the UK or |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #152 |
164. Selfishness is the reason we don't have universal health care |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #164 |
197. The French are more active on their own behalf perhaps. That does not mean they are less selfish. |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #197 |
211. I have been working my butt off for the Public Option. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #211 |
234. I have as well and my medical insurance is great and I cannot lose it. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #197 |
264. It means they understand their individual STATE in the system depends on protecting everyone . .. !! |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #197 |
372. Peaceful protest accomplishes nothing |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #372 |
428. Violence and intimdiation is one of worst ways to get things done |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #152 |
274. Deleted message |
No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #274 |
291. Um, no. You simply the missed the point entirely, and then got rude to boot. |
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Serial Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #121 |
161. Wow - you said it well... n/t |
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NikolaC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #121 |
214. I Wish That I Could Rec This Post n/t |
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Utah_liberal (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #121 |
305. How Right you. are. I am so God Damned pissed I can't think straight. |
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susanr516 (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #121 |
318. I wish I could rec your post nt |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #121 |
319. I know that was only a partial list, but Thank You nonetheless. |
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llmart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #121 |
329. Best post yet..... |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #121 |
341. +1 We suspended our evacuation plans after the Obama win, but I'm pulling out the folder again |
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veritasvg (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #121 |
342. Even If... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #121 |
357. "How far this nation has fallen, how far..." |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #121 |
406. K&R to your most excellent post! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #110 |
252. He makes good points, and you are not the moderator |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #252 |
275. If you're the moderator, feel free to delete my post. If you aren't the moderator, then you |
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divideandconquer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #110 |
266. France has the world's best healthcare system |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #110 |
317. You are correct, France has real Healthcare. |
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veritasvg (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #108 |
179. If You... |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #179 |
184. Right, Americans just sit on their ass while they watch the tube |
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veritasvg (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #184 |
192. But... |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #192 |
200. Folks, here is an Ayn Randian who practices what she preaches! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #192 |
379. looky here... a dick head |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #179 |
186. love it or leave it, eh? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #179 |
209. I think tocqueville lives in France. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #179 |
380. we don't do dat here... burp |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
199. If Obama and Dems wanted Democrats in the streets they'd call them out . . . |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
64. Won't happen |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #64 |
78. Did I say it would happen? BTW, I have fantastic health insurance at zero cost to me |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
327. You can't say this. You can't prove a negative. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
316. I'm with you. National Stay at home and Garden fortnight.. |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Huffington Post has this too! |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. In his most recent Town Hall gatherings, Obama has been calling the effort |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #37 |
70. I have no problem with the term health insurance reform. That is what single PAYER is. |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #70 |
117. You're kidding right? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #117 |
167. No, I am not kidding. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
201. We need to push on single payer/MEDICARE FOR ALL . . . |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
246. at least he finally gets the health INSURANCE does not equal |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #246 |
297. If we all had health insurance that was both affordable (or free) and good |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
131. We knew this when they shut out Howard Dean from the administration |
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Cell Whitman (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #131 |
151. You got that right, Obama didn't want Dean around to tell the truth |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #131 |
157. Sebelius vs. Dean. Sebelius was needed where she was and Dean was needed in her slot. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #157 |
202. Howard Dean has stayed with his commitment to public service . . . |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #202 |
323. +1 |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #157 |
360. very true... |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
140. Yep... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #140 |
159. You first posted about that, what, a week or two ago? That's far from the beginning. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #159 |
168. Go search.. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #168 |
254. Don't need to search. I saw the first post. You search. I didn't need a friend in the |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #254 |
282. You seem.... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #282 |
304. My views about you do not mean I am an unhappy person or that I do not have fun. Thanks for |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #304 |
311. Good. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #254 |
330. Man, what's your problem No Elephants? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #330 |
376. Write Down knows exactly what my problem with him is. |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #159 |
389. Shut The F**k UP... The "KOOLAID" Has Gone SOUR! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #389 |
397. I'm not in the Kool Aid crowd, as anyone who read the thread should be able to discern very easily |
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mystieus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
290. Obama isn't willing to risk a second term of health care afterall |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
2. And yesterday Valerie Jarrett said Obama |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. um i think the idea is they lie like a rug about what he wants and then pass a sham bill quickly |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Would like a bill with a public option, but will not veto a bill that does not have one. |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
47. Baucus' bill is the one Obama will sign |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #47 |
72. Seems so. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
203. Baucus should have to recuse him -- he should be removed -- PRE-BRIBED . . . |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #203 |
216. yes--Baucus has taken 3.9 million from healthcare interests |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #216 |
227. So being PRE-BRIBED made Baucus suitable to head health care reform -- !!! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #216 |
326. I got an email from the organization that Dean's brother runs, saying Kerry has taken |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 12:17 AM Response to Reply #326 |
420. Well That Explains Why Kerry Isn't Out There Backing Up Obama On A Strong Public Option.......nt |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. Wow! |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Wow! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. It is not unheard of for top people in an administration to speak with one |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #19 |
46. My point, as you know, is that you said you were confused by |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
74. he'll say the co-ops give that competition (and they won't) |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #74 |
86. Co-ops have a track record of failing |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #86 |
191. Health Partners? Oh puhleeze! |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #191 |
418. Lydia, I'm sorry you're stuck with them |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
3. So The Dems Ar e Caving Before Our Eyes On The Sunday Shows?...... |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
35. Yes, they have sold us out. |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. Blue Cross was a cooperative. It didn't work. Now they are killing... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. yay!!! -- change you can BELIEVE in! |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
134. yep |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
7. Not the essential element? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
8. Bait and Switch: How the “public option” was sold |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Excellent article. Thanks for the link. Highly recommended. n/t |
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waldenaut (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:46 AM Original message |
Yes. Thank you for posting this article. Very informative. n/t |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
133. Welcome to the Democratic Underground waldenaut! |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
81. Great article |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
89. You won't see that article reprinted in the "mainstream media" |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
92. yes, that article is very instructive. thanks |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
106. The Public Option As Proprosed in 2001, and Later, Was Never Sold, Period |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #106 |
334. +1 |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #334 |
345. "Also, Carthage, methinks, ought utterly to be destroyed" |
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heppcatt (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
9. If you noticed in the town hall yesterday........... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Obama wants to bribe the health insurance companies to do the right thing. |
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Rubble (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
136. call this what it is, and was planned all along- Fascism (Both Dems and Repubs) |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
333. Well, you have to admit that 1 Trillion a year keeps the Military in line. |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. the royal scam on the american public is in high gear baby-pedal to the metal |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I suspect the $90 billion would be the cost of covering more people |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. If Obama gets a bill with the public option, he'll sign it. If he gets a bill without the public |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. We had to fight to get into the White House Summit, to get into Senate Testimony, to |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I feel your pain. I don't think the Founders foresaw either K Street or |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. But we aren't suppose to attack the Blue Dogs and.... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I never said you weren't supposed to attack the Blue Dogs. But, IMO, the |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Hi |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. No, I don't think most Democrats in Congress really want single payer. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Unless Sebelius is using reverse psychology.. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #39 |
88. Um, are you saying that |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #88 |
363. No, other reasons can be just as valid |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #363 |
405. Thanks for the clarification. It's a valid concern from anyone's perspective, I imagine. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
205. Corporate DLC and "blue dogs" should be under attack . . . |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
147. If he gets a bill with voo-doo and shamanism in it, he'll sign it. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
22. This is an exrememly sad depelopment. |
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SomeGuyInEagan (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Yes, a Congress with a spine would help. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #26 |
41. Trouble is, we may not be 98% of us. And, if we are, we are not |
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SomeGuyInEagan (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
374. By 98 percent, I am not writing of liberals, progressives, etc. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
206. Somehow we can't get it thru our heads that corporations OWN Congress/government .... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. We already elected an overwhelmingly Democratic House, 60 Senators and the |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #45 |
61. But at least 20 of the Dem Senators are traitors and appeasers |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #61 |
91. Yes, but that is because of anything we did or did not do. WE did what was |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #91 |
103. I'm in Nevada and unfortunately, it doesn't look like Reid will have |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #103 |
120. Are you doing anything about that? If we progressives want change, they are going to have to |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
207. You have to end campaign finance BRIBERY . . . they're all "pre-owned" . . . |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
66. Get ready for a GOP Congress in 2010. |
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veritasvg (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
185. Uh Huh... |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
28. This was inevitable from the beginning, but it damn sure hurts |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. This would be my first major disappointment with Obama |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
57. My first was his choice of Rick Warren for the most important national |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. I'm not sure you are more left, but I tend to be patient and pragmatic |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #63 |
84. I am not sure which of us is more left OR which of us is more pragmatic. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #84 |
276. The question you need to ask is there that much of a |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #276 |
403. Between the Republicrats and ? Drawing a blank on the other one. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 01:44 AM Response to Reply #403 |
423. I hear you, and that is the very question I am asking myself, the one you poised |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
111. My 1st disappointment with Obama was when he voted in favor of giving Telecoms immunity from |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Embarrassed to say that I totally believed him when he said he would fix that vote once he got to |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
402. Deleted message |
Onlooker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
34. Obama's getting more comfortable with the status quot |
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dmosh42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
36. Bring on the "Progressive Party"! No more whoring! n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
208. Where is it ... ?????????????????????? |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
38. Stick a fork in health care reform. It's dead. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Teddy Roosevelt was he first to advance universal health care. And who |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Teddy Roosevelt advocated National Health Insurance in 1912 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Yes, he was into ecologic conservation, health care and not letting corporations get too big to fail |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
210. Teddy also made clear we had to "bar corporations from any participation whatever in elections"-!! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #210 |
392. Did he? I may just write him in next election. Dead, he may just be a better candidate than some |
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Fire1sKid (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
325. I think by that time myself and Fire1........ |
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Hulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
40. Sorry...but until I hear it from Obama...I'm not buying it. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Hope you are right! |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
222. Re: "Sebelius and several others ... are serving as a smoke screen." |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #222 |
408. Let's hope a bill with a strong public option gets to his desk. That way, we won't |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
277. You are right. Also do not trust anything from the media |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
49. White House appears ready to drop 'public option' |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. The feeling is mutual. |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. You have got to be fucking kidding me. nt |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Bait and switch.....and then drop? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Thankfully the President doesn't agree as he has already stated he will not vote for a bill.. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. His comments at the recent Town Hall seem to indicate a softening of that position |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Let me state it again.. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. He is allowed to change his mind |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. No, we don't just wait to see what happens. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #69 |
105. How specifically do you suggest we hold him to his word after he signs a bill? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. Hold him to his word NOW. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #115 |
339. Um, according to you, his "word" is that he will veto |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #65 |
76. He also said he would repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Nope, he has not retreated on DADT at all. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #79 |
99. Bull. He could use his STATUTORY power to suspend DADT discharges until |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #99 |
107. Precisely! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. Worse. He lied to the one who resigned and wrote him. Her name is not leaping to my mind this |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. Yep, more people ignoring what he has already stated RE: DADT |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #116 |
122. Actually, I do know how our system works. So do experts on military law. |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
158. And he said yesterday... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
182. Got a link to a direct quote from Obama? Are you sure you are not thinking of his promise to |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
396. no brainer, presidents have no vote, just a signature or veto n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #396 |
411. She probably meant veto. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. No public option, no health care reform |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. |
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GinaMaria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. C'mon! Is the astroturf really winning this argument? |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Nope. |
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GinaMaria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #60 |
90. I've been thinking the same thing |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
123. DLC won from the beginning |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
271. Not the astroturf. The corporatists. They won before the first town hall was a gleam in Armey's |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
127. Sigh it was nice while it lasted...guess I'll be staying home next election |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
213. Btw, BILL CLINTON was giving Obama a lot of assistance on dropping public option . . . |
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undergroundnomore (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #213 |
349. screw the pony |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
59. Get ready for Speaker Boner, Majority Leader Frog Face, and |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
67. What's depressing to me is how much of a pushover most of you are. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #67 |
109. If he said that and meant it, what we post on the subject is irrelevant. |
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Frank Booth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
71. So, do I "recommend" this because it looks like Obama's sold us all out, or "unrecommend" |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. You have a third option, log off of DU and pout all day. |
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Frank Booth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #75 |
83. It won't help our cause any more or less than defending a politician on a message board who |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. I said you should log off and pout, not pout to me. |
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Frank Booth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #85 |
94. I don't like to log out because it takes me forever to find my pass word. |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #85 |
162. You have not noticed the change in words, actions, and non actions. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #71 |
77. rec for visibility |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
119. If you want to draw people's attention to a thread--for whatever reason--you |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
80. Here is Reuters report on Sebelius remarks on CNN State of the Nation |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
163. And yesterday Obama said |
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JayMusgrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
223. Associated Press just can't write an article reporting accurately, nor |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #80 |
306. New Slogan for our Democratic Leadership: No We Can't! |
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cravermi (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
93. Why we should support HCR even if it doesn't include a public option |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #93 |
98. The only thing that will save this so-called reform bill in my mind is... |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
166. It is too personal an issue. People are seeing their loved one being denied medical treatment. That |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #93 |
338. But as Howard Dean said, the public option basically was the compromise. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
95. White House appears ready to drop 'public option' |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Deleted message |
and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Fuck that! The public Option is fair and appropriate! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #100 |
137. Actually, we cannot determine if a public option is desirable unless we know |
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Meeker Morgan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #95 |
132. This means tweak the status quo a little ... |
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tooeyeten (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #95 |
260. What Gibbs said on Face the Nation |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #260 |
346. Siding with the notion |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
97. If not now when????? |
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tooeyeten (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
101. I'm not okay with it |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
102. Deep13: America not okay with insurance co-ops. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
104. To hell with mouthpiece Sebelius and insurance coops. |
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KyleA (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. Obama was never anything more than a moderate progressive at best |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #112 |
135. Edwards was the true reform candidate |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #112 |
178. Edwards was the true reform candidate........ |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #112 |
224. The only decent candidate this electoral cycle was Kucinich... |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
124. What I have begun saying the last couple of months with the...................... |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
125. Obama says he doesn't care if health care reform makes him a one term president. |
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jeaps (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
129. We're screwed |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
130. Kucinich 2012 |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #130 |
344. Kucinich/Sanders '12 Take Back America! n/t |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
138. It's high time that all of us who supported Obama during the election, to come out, and... |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
141. God damn |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #141 |
169. I too have worked hard and I feel your pain. I have sent Obama at least a dozen emails telling him |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
142. This is gonna end up being "Health Insurance Care" |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #142 |
171. Obama was sayng Healthcare now health insurance the insurance companies are probably demanding he |
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veritasvg (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #171 |
176. I Have News For Ya... |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
144. Anyone got a link to a good description of what a co-op would look like? |
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Cell Whitman (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #144 |
155. from Joe's post upstream |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #144 |
416. Kaiser Permanente |
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Cell Whitman (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
145. This explains why Howard Dean was NOT given a job in the administration |
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stillrockin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #145 |
233. ding ding |
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eagertolearn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
149. He's caving in and I am so dissapointed. What about everyone else who |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
150. Sebelius is a DLC, Republican Lite Democrat and so is Obama as |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #150 |
218. We need to target DLC'ers, "blue dogs" . . . and get out in the streets . . . |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #218 |
220. Yeah, it's too bad we don't seem to have any leadership. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #220 |
259. Worse yet, if we don't get single payer, these forces will attack SS/Medicare . . . |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #259 |
262. I am kind of worried about that too because I depend on it. n/t |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #259 |
321. Yes, the right wing keeps escalating their attacks, because no one ever |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #259 |
331. I think the co-op plan run by ins. companies lays the |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #220 |
390. The Republicans have people like Limbaugh on the air rabble rousing and telling them what to do. |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #218 |
399. What are the new house numbers if the blue dogs become |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
153. Great, the repuke screamers win |
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sasquatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
156. I guess security for the HHS secretary is not essential to our federal budget either |
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Serial Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
165. Can anyone tell me why I should vote anymore? |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #165 |
173. I will not vote anylonger if Obama (as it looks) goes back on everything he promised when |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #173 |
194. Know how you feel . . . |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #194 |
235. 'D' and 'R' no longer matter. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #165 |
193. Now you're talking about what so many have done before you . . . dropped out -- |
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Serial Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #193 |
217. It's just how I feel, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #217 |
226. We have to end campaign finance BRIBERY . . . or nothing else is possible . . . |
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Cell Whitman (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
170. Jay Rockefeller explains the fallacy of Conrad's "co-ops" |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #170 |
175. He's a Rockefeller can't he get his family to listen.... |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
174. one question |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #174 |
204. So it is all our fault that the Dems refuse to do their job? |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #204 |
394. actually I adjust my statement - |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
177. I am for single-payer. Going to the idea of apublic option was |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
183. Deals were made in the campaign finance PRE-BRIBED state . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
189. Just want to mention there was an article yesterday on Yahoo for a half hour |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
195. RANT ALERT: Example of the problem I feared with the Recommend/Unrecommend feature. |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
221. Completely fucked - No public option - We've been had. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
225. Unacceptable! It's time to call and write the White House and Congress. |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #225 |
283. Oh gosh. Another public option |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #283 |
414. So, without doing the work to replace Democrats with better Democrats, |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
228. Well - ain't that fucking white of him... |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
229. i am so disappointed. nt |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
230. After 7 months of Obama I didn't expect anything, not even "hope"!! |
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stillrockin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
232. This is bullshit. Single payer now!!! |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
236. White House appears ready to drop 'public option' |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #236 |
237. If so, then what, exactly, was the point of all of this? |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #237 |
238. well, that would be the question, wouldn't it? |
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baseballguy2001 (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #238 |
241. punked |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #237 |
281. About 50 million folks who are uninsured are going to have to buy insurance |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #281 |
422. Not Quite Correct |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #236 |
239. He will be a one-termer if he does... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #239 |
240. He said he wouldn't run again if his policies didn't work... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #240 |
250. He's always been non commital about a second term |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #239 |
244. I'd wait for confirmation. The media is not his friend or our friend. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #244 |
248. I am...... but increasingly it feels like we are holding onto to a thread |
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bear425 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #236 |
242. Well, exactly what is the "essential element" to the healthcare overhaul? |
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aaronbav (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #242 |
258. Short answer: Mandated purchase of PRIVATE Health insurance |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #236 |
243. HIT PIECE ALERT!!! |
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Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #236 |
245. He would be jumping the gun if he does this now...... |
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Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #245 |
294. It really suprises me to see so many..Jumping ship on President Obama |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
247. White House appears ready to drop 'public option' |
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Highway61 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
249. Game over |
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LaPera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
251. Insurance corporations money, lobbyist & the republican shills win out again - 70 years of |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #251 |
288. And I, for one, refuse to believe President Obama is THAT |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
253. I say that the Co-op should be limited to Democratic Party members - you want health care? Join. |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #253 |
256. Co-ops are nothing more than insurance companies pacifiers to fool the public |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
261. The worst part is... |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
265. Time for a Double Down |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #265 |
273. What specifically do you suggest? I've already done everything I know to do. Trouble is, for every |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
269. I am so not surprised. He is just another corporate tool. I knew that |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #269 |
272. Each day goes by he proves you correct-Will Obama abandoned the Unions-Employee Free Choice Act too? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #272 |
335. From what I heard, the union card check provision, the heart of the bill, will likely be stripped. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #272 |
362. There will be no |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
278. Forcing people to buy a product from a private company is fascist economics. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #278 |
347. Hear, hear! Well said. n/t |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #278 |
371. Absolutely... nt |
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suigeneris (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
280. I think the White House has made the calculation that |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #280 |
287. Or |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
284. I'm not going to freak out until a bill is actually produced |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
285. co-ops aren't a bad idea as a stop gap measure |
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emsimon33 (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
286. Count me out in 2010! |
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lovelyrita (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
289. WTF! |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
292. co-op = same shit at the same price, except new location with Ikea furniture in it. |
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cecilfirefox (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
293. This is dissapointing. To be honest though, we needed to have come out swinging for this and I feel |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
296. First Obama abandons single payer, now public option, next a watered down co-op bill? |
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droidamus2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
300. Just sent a little e-mail to the White House |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #300 |
395. I sent one too. |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
303. Gotta tell ya...I'm really starting to get offended...no single payer, no public option, screw them. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
307. I hate making predictions that come true... |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
308. Obama Sold Us Out |
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mr_smith007 (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
313. One word: FUCK! |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
314. Am I mistaken on something? |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
332. Quel Suprise. |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
336. So sick of this bullshit... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #336 |
348. Deleted message |
W_HAMILTON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #348 |
350. Having a public option is not the same as single payer. |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
351. White House ready to drop Public Option |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #351 |
352. How many f*cking threads do we need on this. Let me go get you some links |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #351 |
353. I don't know what I find more apalling--that MSBNC is quoting a CNN show |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #351 |
354. You posted about this this morning, why did you post it again? |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #351 |
355. Oye |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
358. We have allowed health insurance corporations to run wild in |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
364. NOOOOOO!!!! |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
366. instead of beating up on Obama, we need to take to the streets like the RW has |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
367. As a Kucinich supporter who saw his candidate and fellow Koochies here on DU |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #367 |
370. I was always with Kucinich too until he dropped out. |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
368. I've lost "hope" for meaningful "change". |
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Oerdin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
369. Democrats are weak and spineless. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
375. My letter to Obama |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #375 |
393. Creefksneaker... Right On and Here is A good model of What You Are Advocating Right Here! |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
378. It was all bullshit, folks... |
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PFunk (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
381. I hope this isn't true. Then is shows bad times later on. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
382. I knewe this lady was bad news.She's way too conservative.Co=ops are proven to fail |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #382 |
383. This was just the best Conrad etc could come up with to appease reformers |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #383 |
384. ...and still keep private ins. profiteering. They never intended reform just appeasement |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
398. so...wanna make some noise about it? Ideas? |
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crazy_vanilla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #398 |
410. many people are faxing their thoughts directly to the WH |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 05:51 AM Response to Reply #410 |
424. I'm on it! Thx |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
400. Mr. President |
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ssnt (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #400 |
401. What is wrong with the coop idea? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #401 |
409. The coops will not be large enough to compete. They have been |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #401 |
413. HMO's promised the same thing and we all know how good |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
425. Profits Are To Die For. |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
426. I don't understand why he |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
427. Co-ops are a windfall for insurance companies. |
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