Dems Sent ‘Back to Drawing Board’ on Health Care

[sabra]

Source: ABC News

Another case of sticker shock has slowed congressional progress on health care reform, with the Congressional Budget Office reporting yesterday that the Democratic proposals now being considered won’t net the federal government any savings.

That’s forcing Democrats “back to the drawing board,” even as legislation crawls its way through committees in the House and Senate, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said today on ABCNews.com’s “Top Line.”

“I’d say it’s something we need to address,” Hoyer, D-Md., told us. “Clearly, bringing costs down is one of the major objectives of this effort, and we’ve got to do that. And if the scoring and the projections don’t indicate that we’re doing that, we need to go back to the drawing board and make sure we do that.”

“I wouldn’t call it a setback, but it is certainly something that we have to pay attention to,” Hoyer said.

Read more: http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/07/dems-sent-back-to-drawing-board-on-health-care-surtax-on-wealthy-is-good-politics.html

[Oregone]

1. Great news for single-payer advocates that they will go back to drawing board focusing on costs

[BattyDem]

6. How long can they continue to ignore the one solution that WILL save lots of money?

When it comes to the savings from single-payer, it's like they have their fingers in their ears, their eyes are closed and they're saying, "La la la ... I'm not listening!" :eyes: :grr:

[Oregone]

10. There are more than just single-payer to save money

But yeah, all ignored. :)

[wroberts189]

19. A very good question. nt

[foginthemorn]

11. No congress person has asked the CBO to score it as far

as I know.

[Oregone]

12. But being that they are actually concerned with costs now, maybe that will change

In the end, they found out their band-aids wont help too much

[foginthemorn]

13. I would hope so. I have to wonder why the proponets --like

Conyers has not asked for a cost estimate. I am thinking only the Chairs of these health committee's have to ask--but I am not sure. Do you know?

[Delphinus]

24. Hey, foginthemorn,

Welcome to DU!

And that's a wonderful question - why hasn't Conyers or any one of his 84 co-signers asked the CBO to do this? Did Pelosi squelch it from the get-go?

[Kingofalldems]

2. Sarah Palin's DU pal(s) will love this one

[WriteDown]

3. Just institute the Swedish health care model...

and forget all this other malarkey.

[wtbymark]

4. Kucinich has an amendment

its in some bill with the ?(something)? and Labor committee, allowing states to institute their own single-payer plans. This is the way Canada got single-payer. plz excuse the lack of info on it.
On edit: and four threads later here's the info
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8533437

[Political Heretic]

8. Also common dreams has an article on this:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/07/17-12

[jwirr]

15. Now all we in Minnesota have to do is get rid of Pawlenty.!!! We were

already talking about a state single payee plan in 2004.

[jwirr]

14. As I understand it that bill has passed.

[Senator]

21. Yes, Kucinich is just drawing a straight line to rational healthcare

Using the neo-fascists' "states rights" propaganda meme against them.

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[ipaint]

5. Problem solved.

Cut Out Insurers, Save $400 Billion on Healthcare?

June 23, 2009

http://www.accuracy.org/newsrelease.php?articleId=2023

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6089545

[Political Heretic]

7. What does this mean? Is the draft that was released just today now no longer relevant?

Sometimes I feel like these news corporations are full of shit... saying "back to the drawing board" when no one is actually saying that.

[sinkingfeeling]

9. I can tell them how to fund it. Cut a massive 10-15% out of the military/black ops/'intelligence'

budgets. That would provide between $100-150 billion a year to have universal health care!

[Earth Bound Misfit]

16. Stop calling it "Health Care Reform", just call it

"War"

They'll find the $$$to pay for it.

[DavidDvorkin]

17. Interesting that wars never have to pay for themselves

At least, they aren't required to pay directly into the US Treasury.

Since Obama is opposed to single payer, that won't ever be mentioned. How much it would save is irrelevant. This will be a black mark on his administration, no matter what good he accomplishes.

[Wednesdays]

18. K&R

:kick:

[MarjorieG]

20. CBO talking about Senate proposals, or House with surtax, also?

[ConcernedCanuk]

22. I'll say it again for the President, the Congress and the House

.
.
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"Look North you stupid assholes" !

There is a reason why elderly people want to move North

HEALTHCARE!

dummfux

gee

[natrat]

23. cut all the bs and just give it all to the corporations like ya know they will do, what a joke