'Hillary Clinton supports us' says head of Venezuela's Globovision

[jefferson_dem]

Source: McClatchy

'Hillary Clinton supports us' says head of Venezuela's Globovision
Luis Andres Henao | The Miami Herald
last updated: July 09, 2009 07:16:57 AM

Fresh from a meeting with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the head of Venezuela's main opposition television network said he's returning home convinced Clinton supports Globovision's efforts to speak out against Hugo Chavez's government.

Alberto Federico Ravell and his main anchor, Leopoldo Castillo, met with El Nuevo Herald editors and The Miami Herald's Editorial Board on Wednesday to share news of their interview with Clinton and discuss the network's battle with Chávez, who is trying to shut down Globovisión.

"We have to respect the media, we have to respect the constitution, we have to respect elected governments," Ravell said Clinton told him. "In everything. she said I was seeing a red beret," he said speaking about the famed symbol of the Venezuelan president.

The Washington meeting on Tuesday with Clinton was the highlight of their trip and came on the same day Clinton was trying to negotiate a resolution to the recent ouster of Honduran President Manuel Zelaya – a situation that Ravell said Chávez is trying to manipulate.

"It was incredible that the same day she met with ousted Honduran President Zelaya she also met with representatives from a television channel that is seen by Chávez as part of the opposition," Ravell emphasized.

"That sends a clear message," he told the newspaper editors, noting that respecting the rule of law must include freedom of the press.


Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/world/story/71530.html

[Ken Burch]

1. All I can say on this one is

:popcorn:

gonna be a LOT of posts in this thread.

[wroberts189]

4. True but I for one am not going to take the bait.

There are people on this board that appear to be getting paid to bash and smear anything Chavez. When he supplied cheap oil to the poor in the North eastern US during the gas price spike they slammed that as well as just a "trick" to make it seem he was not the Ivan the terrible. The guy could cure cancer and there are posters here that would say its an evil plot.

He has been duly elected and is supported by wide margins in his country but to a lot of posters he is a "dictator"... just like Obama is a "secret Muslim socialist" its a wing nut lie and talking point these posters use repeatedly.

I will not reply to this thread. Chavez is cool in my book as is anyone who has so dramatically helped the poor and he has helped them within and outside his country.

and fyi to other posters... Obama just shut off military aid to Honduras and does not support the COUP. Chavez just shut off their oil supply. Sounds to me like they are on the same page. And who supports the COUP? Republicans... what does that tell you? This article stinks of disinfo.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

40. Do you have a link to who's paying?

Occasionally, I disagree with something Chavez does or says, and I bash it.

Can I really get paid for that? Crap, I been GIVING it away!

:rofl:

[wroberts189]

41. Disagreeing with an occasional position is one thing...

We all do that. Well a good many of us do and most of it is focused on Obama.

Outright lies , smears, and disinformation is another thing. You will need to paint him as Castro or Ahmadinejad and even Hitler himself to draw a paycheck.

Do not be so quick to think such things are bull.

Many people with money have an important agenda. Shaping the information you get and see ..creating discourse, confusion, and flame wars ..try to shape the debate or discussion Fox news style.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

[EFerrari]

68. There were between 5 and 10 new posters who registered here

to defend the coup. What are the odds. :shrug:

[Abq_Sarah]

79. Which coup would that be?

[EFerrari]

80. The last one that put the Honduran people in the hands of military repression

all over the country.

[Abq_Sarah]

86. Military repression?

Really? The military never took over the government. They acted as an agent of the Honduran Supreme court and the transfer of power went to the person next in the line of succession. You may not like the Honduran constitution, I have several problems with it but it is undeniable that Zelaya had intended to violate his countries laws and the government again, under their laws, had a legal right to take action against him. People love to give lip service to the rule of law until it doesn't go their way.

[EFerrari]

88. Oh, please. There is no law in Honduras that legalizes kidnapping

expulsion, the terrorizing of the press or death squads. Yes, the miliary is in control of the country outside of the big cities and even there, the golpistas rely on them to repress the people.

Apparently, YOU are the one that doesn't like the Honduran constitution.

Do you also agree with the coupster that called our president a pickaninny not once but three times?

[Abq_Sarah]

78. So, only pro-Chavez propaganda is acceptable?

[EFerrari]

81. This isn't a right wing web site. And there is a difference between

propaganda and information.

[wroberts189]

109. Just the facts will be fine for or against. nt

[WriteDown]

43. The agents of Coke Zero are everywhere. nt.

[wroberts189]

48. Not only them..Exxon the richest company on earth also has a beef with him. nt

[WriteDown]

49. Exxon is a pale imitator of the nefarious Coke Zero. nt.

[bitchkitty]

102. Speak of the devil. n/t

[EFerrari]

11. As soon as I saw who got that interview, I knew this story would be written

today.

[wroberts189]

51. Well you were right ..and I got sucked in but I got my words in to counter the shills. nt

[Beacool]

2. Good for her!!!

Chavez is becoming, if he's not already, a dictator. Zelaya was trying to go the same way. Chavez has closed TV stations, arrested political opponents and suppressed the freedom of the press. He is now trying to close down Globovision because they are one of the few media outlets who still have the guts to speak against him.

Like I heard Venezuelans say over the weekend, Chavez should worry a little more about the problems in his own nation (like the shortage of firetrucks, ambulances and lack of garbage collection, for example) than those in Honduras. Ditto for Correa in Ecuador and Fernandez-Kirchner in Argentina.

x(

[SkyDaddy7]

3. I totally agree! Good for Hillary!

It seems many here at DU turn a blind eye to what Chavez is doing. It is if Chavez does no wrong whatsoever? :shrug:

Free Speech is a must in any country including Chavez's country!

[Beacool]

5. Because I doubt that anyone here lived under a dictatorship.

I have and know whence I speak. Chavez is as repressive as the military juntas were in other countries. Their main difference is their political bent.

:(

[Ken Burch]

7. If the "opposition" won in Venezuela, every poor person and every worker would mourn

No one who isn't already rich benefits from "market values".

[EFerrari]

10. Would you explain, from your expertise, how the Chavez government is

repressive.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

15. Don't you know? He's aregular Rios Montt and Pinochet combined this one. nt

[Beacool]

17. I suggest you ask the mayors of Maracaibo and Caracas that same question.

since you all seem to know so much how smoothly things are being run by Chavez.

[EFerrari]

22. Oh please, they're both wingers. So, how many wingers do you know

in Venezuela?

You've yet to show a single fact, just like this article. I suggest you find one or stop digging.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

14. No, apparently you don't. There are plenty of things one could criticize about the Chavez

administration. But comparing him to military juntas especially those in Latin America who murdered and "disappeared" people by the thousands shows that you no nothing of Latin American history. Last time I checked the Venezuelan opposition media constantly criticize the president and his policies. Tell me of one military junta that would have allowed such a thing. I'm not even going to go into the times when they've been caught lying and even photshopping photos to crank up the hysteria.

[Beacool]

16. YOU are the one that knows zip about Latin America.

I don't have to read a history book, I LIVED it. And yes, Chavez hasn't "disappeared" thousands of people, but he's a repressive dictator wannabe who wants to follow on his idol Castro's footsteps. You far leftist like what's going on in Venezuela? I suggest you all go live there for a few months and then tell us how much you enjoy your stay. Just don't get caught in a fire or expect to have your garbage picked up if you stay in Caracas.

[EFerrari]

23. More right wing cr@p. n/t

[Ken Burch]

24. Nothing in Venezuela could possibly be improved by capitalism and conservatism

Turning Venezuela into Pinochet's Chile or Thatcher's Britain would NOT be a "happy ending".

Real Democrats are on the side of the poor and the workers.

[frylock]

25. produce. some. FACTS.

otherwise STFU.

[Beacool]

27. Just a couple.........

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/07/07/venezuela.mayor/index.html?eref=rss_world

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/story/1009470.html

http://www.europeancourier.org/152.htm

There's so much more, but I'm at work.

[EFerrari]

28. Ledezma and Rosales are both far right wingers and Rosales

is a fugitive from justice. "The Road to Mugabe" is an opinion piece. You don't have "so much more", you don't even have this.

[Beacool]

30. That's not my point.

I'm only pointing out that Chavez is becoming another Castro, he intends to stay in power permanently.

I dislike left leaning dictatorships almost as much as I dislike those of the right. Whatever good Chavez has done he undermines by suppressing the press. Even if that press is RW, freedom of speech should not be curtailed, even when we don't agree with the message.

Just like with sexism. I will defend Palin against purely sexist remarks as much as I would defend any other woman, even when I don't agree with their politics.

[EFerrari]

32. You have a lot of opinions that appear to be part and parcel

of your class. You apparently don't know anything about Venezuela. Chavez is not suppressing the press.

If Chavez were stifling free speech, these two characters -- one of whom was nicknamed "priest killer" for his work in El Salvador during the war -- would not be using Hillary Clinton to suggest Zelaya is a powermonger, against the facts and also against Clinton's own mission.

[Beacool]

33. My class?

What does that mean?

:-(

[EFerrari]

38. You identify with privilege.

You take people like Coronel seriously because he's familiar to you -- without noticing that he writes for the right wing. Search his articles. He's a little bit to the right of Hitler and his articles appear in the nuttiest right wing venues.

http://www.humanevents.com/search.php?author_name=Gustavo+Coronel

[jefferson_dem]

46. Oh my.

I've learned to not even bother debating Hugo-apologists. They live in a place beyond reason, predictably dismissing any critic as either mis-informed, ill-informed, a right wing tool, or a "corporatist" enabler.

[Beacool]

53. As I have come to find out.............

;(

[EFerrari]

62. And you have nothing but a personal comments. Check. n/t

[Ken Burch]

55. It would be different if those who opposed Chavez didn't just want to restore the old order

If they cared about anything other than privelege.

Chavez opponents have no positive or progressive values.

[Odin2005]

58. Black-and-white thinking.

I oppose both right-wing AND left-wing authoritarianism.

[Ken Burch]

60. You're not the same sort as the Venezuelan "opposition"

Those people are just economic royalists.

[Odin2005]

63. That was exactly the point I was trying to make.

Just because I don't like Chavez doesn't mean I do like the Venezuelan opposition.

[EFerrari]

67. The black and white thinking is yours or maybe you simply don't know

what authoritarian means.

[Beacool]

83. That was precisely my point.

:-)

[EFerrari]

91. Nope. Your point was to disseminate right wing talking points

that you have clearly never checked out for yourself.

You are aware, aren't you, that Hillary is trying to reinstate the elected president of Honduras? Do you think she is wrong?

[boppers]

111. Those against Chavez on DU are not all fighting for the old order.

Those *for* Chavez on DU simply paint them that way, and their brush is fairly huge.

[EFerrari]

112. LOL

[boppers]

114. Well, that was a substantially intellectual argument.

Not unexpected, though. Do you not have a script for that one yet?

[EFerrari]

115. I love posts that enact what they criticize. They're the best!

[boppers]

116. Touche. Nice catch!

I'll rephrase:

There are those on both sides of arguments that presume that any disagreement with their point of view is an endorsement of an opposing view.

They are polarized in their thinking.

[EFerrari]

61. Did you bother to look up Coronel? Nope. n/t

[jefferson_dem]

82. Thanks for helping illustrate my point.

Hugo-apologist lock-step cult, critic dismissal, Tack #2 -- I'm "ill-informed".

[EFerrari]

84. You didn't and that does make you ill informed.

Beacool posted three links to right wing cr@p. Unlike you with your fav ad hom MO, I did bother to go check out her links.

I respected her post more than you did. :)

:hi:

[frylock]

87. you're clearly misinformed based on the lack of substance in your reply..

instead of attacking the "apologists," why don't you produce some UNBIASED facts. k?

[EFerrari]

89. No, let's defend links thrown up to American Thinker

and Human Events and The Miami Herald. Racist right wing rags. :crazy:

[jefferson_dem]

90. Again, another illustration.

For the record, it wouldn't matter what "facts" I produce. If they challenged your worldview, I suspect you would dismiss them as propaganda anyway. "UNBIASED" reporting only comes from sources like counterpunch, common dreams, or venezuelanalysis.

[EFerrari]

92. And more ad hom. Predictable.

ETA: I forgot, anti-intellectual bs. You have yet to show that any of those sources are wrong. :hi:

[jefferson_dem]

93. Predictable, yes.

How many times in this thread alone have you accused your fellow DUers of being ill-informed or spouting right wing talking points?

[EFerrari]

94. Probably as often as they offered nothing but ad hom attacks as you have.

Why don't you check behind me and see what you think. :)

[frylock]

95. such a lazy argument..

show me what you got. EFerrari has got you nailed.

[jefferson_dem]

97. I have no argument to make.

I merely stated a fact, which you and others on this thread have effectively validated.

EDIT: For typo.

[EFerrari]

98. No, you stated a smear. Maybe the problem is you don't distinguish

between fact and your opinion.

[bitchkitty]

103. When have you actually produced facts?

Personal attacks and repeating right wing propaganda are not illustrations of fact.

[Odin2005]

57. That's how Marxist authoritarians dismiss their critics.

:puke:

[EFerrari]

64. The problem is, I'm not a Marxist and it's true.

Why don't you ask Beacool to answer my question about how many wingers she knows in Venezuela? I'm sure that as a diplomat, her father had many friends in the region who were quite comfortable.

-10 for using cliches and not your head.

[Alamuti Lotus]

110. As I said below about another fine upstanding e-citizen,

-10 for using cliches and not your head.

that's really all he ever has chambered (that and -- well, I forget if he's the one who called me a Taliban representative..), let him have at least that little bit.

[SkyDaddy7]

56. You have to be kiddng?

Produce facts that Chavez is not the saint many here on DU claim he is?

Looks like he did so I guess the "STFU" comment is in your court now?

Which was quite rude.

[EFerrari]

65. So, that would be a "no"/ You don't like "what he's doing".

So, what is he doing that you don't like and how do you know?

[frylock]

85. the only people claiming that "he's a saint" are the propagandists..

what i'm claiming is that he is the LEGALLY ELECTED leader of Venezuela. so those words you want to put in my mouth, you can just shove em up your ayse.

[fascisthunter]

34. nice projection but onlookers disagree

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

39. Oh right not only do I come from Latin America I have family and friends

in various countries. Let's cut the bullshit and melodrama. As I said the Venezuelan government has many things that can and should be criticized (you need to sharpen your reading skills) but your stupid ass comparison to a military junta ais ignorant as hell.

I'm yet to see anybody in here as obsessed with Chavez as you are with Hillary Clinton. Seriously get some help.

[EFerrari]

20. Here's a picture of the "reporter" Castillo with Roberto D'Aubuisson.

"In this photograph, one can see Castillo with Roberto D’Aubuisson, founder of the ARENA party and who is considered intellectual author of the killing of archbishop Romero, precisely during the period during which Castillo was ambassador. One can also see Jose Napolean Duarte, who was later president of El Salvador."



And here's Machetera on him. He was in El Salvador for 7 years during the dirty war and not on the good side:

Castillo, nicknamed “Matacuras” (Priest-Killer), has been accused on numerous occasions of having strong ties to the Salvadoran ultra-rightwing during the 1980’s, that, using paramilitary groups and the regular armed forces of that country, assassinated and disappeared hundreds of people, including representatives of the Catholic Church who supported or sympathized with the Sandinistas. The most notorious case is that of Archbishop Oscar Arnulfo Romero, assassinated on March 24, 1980, by the government on orders from General Carlos Humberto Romero. It will also be recalled that the following four people (nuns Ita Ford, Maura Clarke, Dorothy Kazel, and layperson Jean Donovan), were raped and killed by various ex-national guardsmen on the night of December 2, 1980.

Leopoldo Castillo has been accused by various sources of passing information to members of Operation Centaur, charged with eliminating clerics and other religious individuals who sympathized with the Farabundo Marti National Liberation Front (FMLN).

Castillo admitted recently that he was Ambassador in El Salvador for seven years, up to 1982. Nonetheless, corroborating this information has not been easy, now that all the documents of that era have disappeared from the embassy, explained Mario Silva, of VTV, basing his information on sources who are unwilling to identify themselves, for obvious reasons. However, the new president of El Salvador, Mauricio Funes, has promised to investigate cases of people who were assassinated during this dark phase of Salvadoran history.

http://machetera.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/obamas-theatre-of-impartiality/

[frylock]

96. good info..

i like how this post has gone largely ignored.

[EFerrari]

99. Thread title should be: Hillary gives interview to Priest Killer. n/t

[wroberts189]

42. You nailed it.

And is it not funny how many claim to know so much about the country? They either live there or know people or just say "I am in the know and I say this!"

They do not speak of how literacy rates have climbed. Or how they have been increasing health care coverage. Or all the poor that know have thriving farms and poverty has plummeted.

No ..its always about some big poor company he laid down the law with we should somehow feel sorry for.

I'll take the side of the people. Not "Globovision"

[Ignis]

119. Sorry, your facts and logic can't compete with opinion.

:rofl:

[fascisthunter]

36. lol

[Ken Burch]

6. If Chavez were ever forced out, only a right-wing future could come to Venezuela

It would have to be just as bad as Chile.

There's no such thing as a democratic conservative in Latin America.

[Beacool]

18. Chile when?

Now or after Allende?

[Ken Burch]

21. In the time of the U.S-sponsored fascist coup, when unions were destroyed

social services were totally eliminated, and thousands of people were killed just for having supported Allende. That's the future the Venezuelan conservatives you support want.

[Beacool]

29. I know exactly what happened in Chile.

Some of those people who were persecuted after Pinochet and his junta took over stayed in our house in Argentina (my father was a diplomat). They actually were given harbor by my much older brother unbeknown to my father (I was a child).

I abhor repressive regimes, and Chavez is similarly repressive.

[Ken Burch]

31. Bullshit. There have NOT been thousands of killings in Venezuela

There has not been torture. There have not been people forced into exile.

Unlike the Carlos Andres Perez era, trade unionists haven't been massacred in the streets.

There are not secret jails where dissidents are held. The fact that one right-wing television faced a few restrictions can't possibly be compared to the misery Chileans(or Guatemalans under the generals, or Salvadorans, or what Hondurans are now going to get if the military stays in power there, as it will if Zelaya isn't restored)experienced.

Chavez has been repeatedly elected in multiparty elections. He is just as democratically legitimate as Kirchner or Lula. The time when left-of-center leaders were obligated to check everything "left" in their program at the door needs to be over. It's just as legitimate to be a radical left head of government as it is to be a conservative or "centrist"(i.e.,just barely not conservative).

It's not oppression that the rich don't rule Venezuela. The rich are not the natural rulers of the earth. And market values are never good for anyone who isn't born rich. And its the fact that the old elites aren't in control that's what you really object to about Chavez. Never mind that the old elites never governed for anyone but themselves. No poor people or workers benefited from anything the Conservative or "Liberal" parties did.

[EFerrari]

35. "It's not oppression that the rich don't rule Venezuela."

And that's their beef and apparently Beacool's in a nut shell.

[Alamuti Lotus]

108. Your 'father-the-diplomat' must have run in very progressive circles indeed

By any chance, did you live in Argentina at the time of (one of) the state terror waves against any remotely suspected leftists? That would be a fine environment to mold your obviously warped political views in. That would explain some things.

[EFerrari]

9. I can't believe after all the threads on Chavez on this board

that anyone can repeat the whole song and dance of the right wing about him with a straight face.

lol

[WriteDown]

44. Coke Zero's spies train months to do that. nt.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

66. I'd thought that after the 1st 250 times you would have let that one rest for at least a week or 2.

I guess I was wrong.

[WriteDown]

69. Nope, its classic

Or dare I say "Coca-Cola Classic."

[EFerrari]

70. Otto Reich has a column in the WaHo today denying he did Honduras

and you're making fun of American manipulations in Latin America?

That's so funny. lol

[WriteDown]

72. Coke Zero has nothing to do with America....

Their tendrils run bigger and wider than that.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

73. Actually that one wasn't that bad. Although given that you only seem to have one joke

OK maybe two now. I could see why you'd beat it to death.

[EFerrari]

74. Did you see BoRev's title today?

"Otto Reich won't rest until he finds the real coup plotters"

lol

:hi:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

75. Is that like Dick Cheney trying to find a vice presidential candidate for Lil' Boots? nt

[EFerrari]

76. Totally. And for a chaser, the same guys that were crawling all over Caracas

during that coup are crawling all over Tegucigalpa. It's pretty clear they want credit for their work.

And Hillary giving this interview to these people, neither of whom are even real journalists, is too much like a dog whistle for me. It looks like she's taking sides and before the talks in Costa Rica even started. :crazy:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

77. What can I say that damn Coke Zer.... FUCK now I'm doing it too!!!! nt

[Alamuti Lotus]

107. that all he's got, let him have it..

Like "FREEBIRD!" at rock concerts, if the idiots keep saying that it might one day become clever.

[dipsydoodle]

8. Didn't Biden say

words to the effect that the USA should keep its nose out of the affairs of other nations ?

[bemildred]

12. I suppose he thinks Jeebus supports him too.

What a clown.

[EFerrari]

13. Same old right wing crap from the Miami Herald. Look at this:

Ravell said Clinton suggested that Latin America presidents who change the law to overstay their mandates, even if they are democratically elected, run the risk of acquiring too much power and weakening democracy.

''Even if it's Uribe in Colombia or the Kirchner couple in Argentina ... leftists or right-wingers -- it's wrong,'' he said.

* * * * * * * *

This is the right wing position, the lie, about Zelaya.

Ravell is suggesting here that Clinton agrees with it. This whole article contains zero news. It's right wing propaganda.

[RaleighNCDUer]

19. Sounds to me like they are spinning a slapdown by Hillary -

"We have to respect the media, we have to respect the constitution, we have to respect elected governments," Ravell said Clinton told him. "In everything. she said I was seeing a red beret," he said speaking about the famed symbol of the Venezuelan president.

Break it down:

We have to respect the media - In the coup attempt the media was complicit in trying to overthrow the government. Chavez's response was not to arrest the media owners and put their media out of business, but to simply cancel the license of the broadcast TV (which uses public air waves) which openly supported sedition - they kept their jobs, they kept their cable broadcast.

IOW, Chavez showed far more respect for the media than the media owners themselves did.

We have to respect the constitution - The people she was talking to violated the constitution by backing the coup attempt. When Chavez wanted to change the constitution, he ran a referendum as required by the constitution, and put it to a public vote. He failed to get that change.

IOW, Chavez showed far more respect for the constitution than the media owners did.

We have to respect elected governments - See the two paragraphs, above.

In everying, she said I was seeing a red beret - IOW, YOU ARE JUST SEEING A FUCKING BOOGEYMAN, NOT ANYTHING REAL. Anything they don't like, they blame on Chavez - just like there are those here who blame anything they don't like on Obama.

Spin, spin, spin.

[EFerrari]

26. Yep. These Globovision propagandists couldn't be more obvious.

They're trying to use Hillary Clinton to support their own right wing position and against the public position of President Obama and the State Department. And of course, the Miami Herald is right there with them. :crazy:

[wroberts189]

47. And sadly people are buying into it. nt

[EFerrari]

71. Mostly the usual who don't feel the need to check their assumptions.

There is another thing here, too. And that is that Clinton is too close to Miami via her brother. She was used in this article, that's true enough but she seems perfectly happy to be useful, too, which is troubling.

[Ignis]

120. Here's hoping HRC sets the record straight. (nt)

[fascisthunter]

37. absolutely

[WriteDown]

45. Red beret?

He should have been seeing this:



Someday they'll have images like this right next to the holocaust memorial in Berlin.

[wroberts189]

50. Did anyone ever learn why they banned it? nt

Oh wait a minute let me guess.. Chavez had a taste. thought it sucked, and declared by decree it would be banned.

[WriteDown]

52. Close..

He tasted it and thought it tasted too much like coke and couldn't possibly have no calories.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

54. Venezuela: Why We Banned Coke Zero

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/12/venezuela-why-we-banned-c_n_215114.html

[wroberts189]

59. Thx.."Health officials said tests show the cola contains sodium cyclamate" nt

[NeoConsSuck]

100. Is this the Coke Zero joke

the right wing trolls are joking about?

[rabs]

101. Venezuela smacks down Hillary over interview with Globovision

Cross posting from Latin America forum.

Btw,as I write, this thread has 100 replies and over 1,500 views, yet it is showing MINUS recommendations. Trolls in action ???

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Well, a week after the BO administration and Caracas agreed to reinstate ambassadors, it took Hillary only a few days to piss off Caracas again.

The official communique does not say exactly why, but re-reading the Globovision interview it looks like it is in reference to Hillary's snide remark about Hugo Chavez's repeated re-elections by the Venezuelan people. Probably the whole tone of the interview with pro-golpista Globovision irritated Caracas.

This is not your ordinary diplomatic rejection, it is a "higly pissed-off" rejection in which the words "a clear, clumsy amd agressive signal, profound ignorance, scorn, difficult to believe, unfriendly acts, lack of respect, hopes for a rectification for the good" of Venezuela-U.S. relations" were used by the Venezuelan Foreign Ministry.

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República Bolivariana de Venezuela

Ministerio del Poder Popular para Relaciones Exteriores

Comunicado

En un momento en el cual se hacen esfuerzos por mejorar las relaciones con el gobierno de los Estados Unidos, la secretaria de Estado, Hillary Rodham Clinton, repite la vieja práctica de dar recetas y emitir valoraciones sobre la democracia venezolana y sobre las relaciones soberanas que nuestro país tiene con otras naciones.

Las insinuaciones de la secretaria de Estado reflejan un profundo desconocimiento de nuestra realidad, así como un desdén hacia la voluntad que numerosas veces nuestro pueblo ha manifestado en el marco de una verdadera democracia participativa.

Es difícil creer que sean sinceras las intenciones de recomponer la relación bilateral cuando se calculan actos inamistosos de estas características. Los conceptos emitidos el día de ayer por la secretaria de Estado constituyen una señal torpe y agresiva del gobierno de los Estados Unidos hacia Venezuela, América Latina y el Caribe.

El Gobierno Bolivariano de Venezuela rechaza este gesto irrespetuoso y aboga por una rectificación para el bien de la relación entre el gobierno de los Estados Unidos y el Gobierno Bolivariano de Venezuela.

Caracas, 8 de julio de 2009

[Beacool]

118. If Hillary ticked off Chavez over this, the more the better.

All of you who admire him so much are welcome to move there and see how much you'll enjoy his regime.

:shrug:

[wroberts189]

105. If I understand your post yes.. they claim he banned coke zero for no reason. nt

[IndianaGreen]

104. The cat is out of the bag! Bushism without Bush!

Hillary and Obama are taking the side of the Latin American elites, which means that they will also take the side of the American elites against the working class.

The masks are off!

[Alamuti Lotus]

106. "Change you can shove up your ass"

[IndianaGreen]

113. K&R DU tries this ridiculous recommend system years ago and it didn't work

I see it sucks as much now as it did back then.

[bitchkitty]

117. LOL

Everyone knows that the head of Globovision would never, ever lie! Especially when he's let The Miami Herald's Editorial Board in on it! LMAO!

Viva Chavez!

edit: virtual stutter