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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:42 PM
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For modest earners, relief repaying student loans
Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK – Repaying a student loan could soon be a little less painful.

Starting this week, anyone with a federal student loan can apply for a program, run by the Department of Education, that caps monthly payments based on income, and forgives remaining balances after 25 years. Those choosing to work in public service could have their loans forgiven after just 10 years.

Eligibility for income-based repayment (IBR) is determined by a person's income and loan size. A calculator at http://www.ibrinfo.org can help borrowers determine their eligibility for the plan, which becomes available Wednesday.

"It's a way to borrow for college without going to the poor house," said Lauren Asher, president of the Institute for College Access & Success, a California-based nonprofit that runs the Project on Student Debt.

The program stems from the Education Department's College Cost Reduction and Access Act, signed in 2007, which authorized the creation of a new income-based repayment plan for both Federal Family Education Loan (FFEL) and Direct Loan borrowers on all Stafford and graduate PLUS loans.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_bi_ge/us_student_loan_relief
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:46 PM
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1. Good program
though it really won't help me. I can see it being vital to a LOT of students in the next 5 years, though.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:51 PM
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2. It doesn't apply to all student loans.
My daughter is finding that out.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:43 PM
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40. Can you share the details of what you/your daughter discovered? n/t
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:02 AM
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47. Sure.
It's at this site.
http://www.ibrinfo.org/
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:15 AM
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48. Thanks! n/t
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 12:48 AM
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3. Halle freakin lujah! Im a nurse
Thank Goddess for Democrats in Congress.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:45 AM
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4. Something needs to be done
If you are not born rich in this country you have two choices, go broke putting your kid through school or send them to the military. The second just isn't a good plan for many.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:58 AM
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5. That's fantastic news! But will not help
me right now. It doesn't go into effect until July 1, 2010 and I'll make my last payment on July 3, 2010. But still, I'm so glad millions of people will not have to go through what most of us have endured these last 25years. It's been rough ride.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:05 AM
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6. I went back to college for social work when I ws in my late 40's -
since I graduated, I have had real trouble paying the student loans - I owed $14000 that has grown to over $24000 because of periods when I could not pay due to illness.
I retired at 59 after 2 heart attacks, have only a small pension as income and pay over $300/ momnth of it to Sallie Mae.I was a state employee working in a state hospital for over 7 years till retirement.

I am hoping I can get at least a reduction in this - my wife is on disability for over 10 years and I hate to stick her with the payments if I die first.

I hope this will help.
You are right - the GOP did not give a shit.

mark
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:55 AM
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27. It was signed in 2007.
And I, for one, am glad that it was Dim son who signed it. Can't you see right wingers proclaiming how Obama and the Democrats have decided to reward failure and lack of responsibility?
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sazerac Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:49 PM
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34. Loan forgivenss
If you are disabled you can get your doctor to sign an application for total student debt forgiveness.

If you have no income or little income after 3 years the loan will be forgiven. In the mean time they might wave your payments. You should look into it.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:22 PM
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38. I thought I had done that, but they told me it was not forgiven, and charged me
more money as accumulated interest.

These people have no idea what they are talking about.

I will call them again and try to find out what happened.

mark

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Zech Marquis The 2nd Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:09 AM
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7. I believe I qualify for this!
If I can have the balance forgiven after 10 years of public service, sign me up! :bounce:
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:12 PM
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42. LOL...
You sure jump soon... You might find yourself in the mountains of Kabul doing your good bit of Public Service...

Look before you leap.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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8. Income-based repayment of federal student loans widened
Source: AP

The Cost Reduction and Access Act, signed in 2007, authorized a new income-based repayment plan for federal student loans — a plan intended to lighten the heavy load of debt that weighs down some graduates for years on end, making it impossible to get ahead.

This Wednesday, anyone with a federal student loan can apply.

The program caps monthly payments based on income and forgives remaining balances after 25 years.

Those who work in public service jobs could have their loans forgiven after just 10 years.

Eligibility for income-based repayment, known as IBR, is determined by a person’s income and loan size. A calculator at www.ibrinfo.org can help borrowers determine their eligibility for the plan.

"It’s a way to borrow for college without going to the poorhouse," said Lauren Asher, president of the Institute for College Access & Success, a California-based nonprofit that runs the Project on Student Debt.



Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1458802.html
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kingofkings Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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9. Is this retroactive?
?
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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11. Geezus, I wish!
The years of paying back my loan from 1990 really had me regretting the decision to go to school. From Reagan onward, a higher education became nothing more than another money-making scheme for a bunch shitheads in suits at a bank. Made it clear to me that America cared nothing for its youth or its future, except to cash it all in for a good time. I hope that's changing but the damage has been done for the past couple of generations.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:34 AM
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22. So the shitheads in the bank were the only ones to blame?
How about higher education being a guaranteed jobs program for people in the higher education industry, who themselves had degrees that were otherwise useless in trying to find a "real" job? All they did was pass on that uselessness to the next generation.

When we talk about the housing bubble, scorn is rightfully heaped upon the bankers, but there's a full measure of it for the builders, developers, realtwhores and yes, even the buyers in that market, which was fed by Federally insured loans as well.

I think it's fair to apply the same standards to the education lobby as it is to the housing lobby.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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10. For a high school teacher with 37k+ in debts this could be huge!
:kick:
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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12. About. Damn. Time.
I know what I'll be doing on Wednesday.
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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13. I wish there was a better way
to do this. I appreciate the need but I knew someone who bragged about using his student loans to travel to Europe every summer and then got a loan repayment grant - it pissed me off. Also, as someone who went to a public school (back when it was affordable and there were Pell Grants), in part because I didn't want to pay for a private school, I kinda resent people running up student loans for private school educations when they could get as good an education at a lot of public schools (I still ended up with student loans, they were just a lot less than other people I know).

I guess I'm saying I have very mixed feelings about this. I'd much rather see the cost of public universities go down. I'd like to see state's fully fund their public universities (fu Arizona State Legislature!). I'd rather see more Pell Grants again. I'd rather not make the banks rich on the backs of students and then switch that to the taxpayers.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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14. For every person who tries to scam the student loan system,
there are many, many more who struggle to repay their loans. Many students pay their loans off faster than required. Allowing repayment according to income is appropriate.

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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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17. I think they already have increased the Pell grants
and hopefully also the federal student loans. This will help people who couldn't get Pell grants for whatever reason.

I wonder what specific jobs "public service" refers to?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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18. I thought using the money for something other than school was tougher
10 year or more back you could borrow the money and do just about anything with it and many did.

But most loans today, they require information from the school before you get through the process and each year you have to apply for your FASFA and all bureaucratic mess.
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 12:09 PM
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28. You had to fill out the FASFA
20 years ago, too (at least I had to in 1990). However I always found that whatever formula they used to determine need set the maximum amount that I could borrow a decent amount higher than what I actually needed. I don't think I ever borrowed the full amount (maybe once). I don't know how much things have changed.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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21. Yeah, I knew quite a few who bought investment properties...
with their student loans. It was a pretty smart deal because they'd use the student loans to put a down payment on the house and the mortgage payments were then tax deductible. They'd work and used the rent payments to pay their way through school.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:39 AM
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23. How did they pull that off?
My annual income while attending college full-time seldom exceeded $10K, and I had no credit history to speak of. How did these enterprising young investors convince a lender to give them a mortgage? What was their income? Were they full- or part-time students?

I agree that it's a smart strategy when feasible, but I knew no one who was in a position to undertake such investment during college.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:17 AM
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25. No clue...
I only knew one or two in undergrad. It was more common when I was getting my MBA. Some people worked or interned and made a decent salary. I'm sure some also had co-signers. Looking back, I wish I had been so clever at the time.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 12:25 PM
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29. Yes indeed
I can see it at the grad level, since you could reasonably have found gainful employment by that time.

But when I was eighteen and working at the dorm sign-in desk for $4.25 an hour, buying a property was the last thing on my horizon! ;)
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 12:42 PM
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30. Amen!!!
This should be tied to the cost of public education. If someone chooses to attend an expensive private school when they had the option to get the same degree from a public university at half the cost, I don't want to pay that difference. I think we should help as much as we can to the extent the loans equal the cost of a public education. Anything more was a personal choice and you should foot the bill for that.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:52 PM
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31. I hear what you're saying, Doc.
I also chose the public option because I didn't come from a wealthy family and didn't want to spend the rest of my life paying off my education. (Besides, the public universities in CA used to be both amazing and affordable, at the time I was choosing.)

I'd like to see some sort of preference given to loans related to public universities, in the same way that loan debt is being forgiven more quickly if you work for the government.
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:50 PM
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45. I hate to make a very sad statement
but I fear those high quality affordable CA educations are a thing of the past :cry: That's also where I got my affordable eduction. My loans actually came from graduate school - also at a very good public university in a large and very good system (New York).
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:04 PM
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49. Sad but true.
I was there for the beginning of the end, and it was awful to see departments get slashed, merged, dumbed-down, etc.

I'm a big fan of public education, and I don't believe we should be bailing out kids who took the gamble on private education before we attend to those who wen the public route. It sounds like you agree.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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15. K & R to keep this afloat so as many will see it as possible.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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19. Hey, Truedelphi!
Disregard my PEM to you :rofl: I was alerting you to something you obviously knew before me!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:34 PM
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33. I still appreciated the warmth and affection
With which you posted your PM.

(Occassionally PM's are not like that)

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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:11 PM
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36. Holey Moley I qualify for this
:cry:

THANK YOU

Kick :kick:
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LittleGirl Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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16. Parent Loans are not eligible
Which would have helped my sister. She took out Parent loans to help her kids finish college and now, has had her pay cut (at least she still has a job) and can't afford to pay as much each month. She's really hurting now that she's taken a 30% cut in pay. Too bad this wasn't set up to help her too.
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:07 AM
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20. kick
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:04 AM
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24. I hope it provides needed assistance,,,
My undergrad loans are long gone. My MBA and Master's loans were rolled into my current mortgage after deducting ALL I could from taxes.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:39 AM
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26. If I work for a State University does that count as a "public service" job?
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:13 PM
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43. Yeah it does if its
at the Univeristy of Kandahar.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:00 PM
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32. K&R
:kick:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:01 PM
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35. biggest mistake of my life: Private College Loans
never, ever do the same unless you have a gaurentee that you can repay the loan off fast!

Problem with this is that if you opt out of private college loans, chances are you will not be going to the school you want, but maybe one that you can afford.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:18 PM
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37. My son's in the same boat.
8% student loans. It's ridiculous.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:29 PM
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39. it's better than variable interest rates
and 8% for me would be nice... don't get me wrong, my loans' interest rates have gone down a bit since the Feds lowered the rates, but still... when inflation hits, I'm done. Oh, and there is no way out of it for me... lot's of sharks but no islands in sight.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:03 PM
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41. Awesome
A similar program allowed me to work off my loans by teaching. Reagan did away with that program. Nice to see someting similar coming back.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:21 PM
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44. unemployement = my relief repaying student loans.
:eyes:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:02 PM
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46. My daughter graduated 10 years ago and still owes a ton
Would she be eligible for this?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-03-09 02:17 PM
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50. good deal.
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