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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 01:39 PM
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Venezuelan, Cuban, and Nicaraguan Ambassadors to Honduras Kidnapped
Source: venezuelananalysis.com



June 28th 2009, by James Suggett
Mérida, June 28th 2009 (Venezuelanalysis.com) – Military personnel kidnapped the ambassadors of Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua in Honduras, along with the Honduran Foreign Relations Minister Patricia Rodas, according to Venezuela’s ambassador to the Organization of American States (OAS), Roy Chaderton.

Chaderton made the announcement just before noon today during an emergency meeting of the OAS in Washington that was convened to respond to the military coup d’etat underway in the Honduras.

“Excuse the interruption, it is an urgent matter. I have just received information in this moment that the ambassadors of Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela,and Foreign Relations Minister Patricia Rodas have been kidnapped by a group ofhooded military agents,” said Chaderton.

Rodas confirmed the kidnapping in a hurried phone call to the Caracas-based television channel Telesur as the kidnapping was underway, according to Telesur.

<snip>

Read more: http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/4556
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 01:45 PM
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1. We live in interesting times.
This could get bloody.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:04 PM
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2. What a stupid move! Nice way to unite a military coalition against you.
fools.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:25 PM
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11. I bet you they thought they had more support up here than they did.
That's the only plausible explanation.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:45 PM
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3. Are they trying to start a war?
:wtf:
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 06:19 PM
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6. IDK. But it seems like a stupid move.
n/t
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:52 PM
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4. Chavez says ven ambassador was beaten



Chavez speaking this morning in Caracas.

Chávez se manifestó indignado al conocer que el embajador de Venezuela en Honduras fue golpeado y "secuestrado". (Chavez was indignant on learning that the ambassador of Venezuela in Honduras was beaten and "kidnapped."

"Lo golpearon, lo dejaron a un lado de la carretera y le arrebataron el celular cuando se quiso comunicar conmigo", denunció el presidente. (They beat him up, they left him on the side of the road and they grabbed his cellphone when he tried to communicate with me.")
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 04:22 PM
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5. Not hard to remember when the right-wing in Venezuela did this to Chavez, the right-wing mob
went to the Cuban embassy, cut off the electricity, water, surrounded the place, wouldn't let them leave, wouldn't let anyone through to take in food to them, and started fires.

(Not to be confused with the time right-wing students trapped chavista students in a building in a Caracas university, wouldn't let them out, shot guns at them, cut off the lights and water, and set fires there, too, until they called out on cell phones, got other chavista students to go up to the door, carrying guns, and demand their release. At that time, they made sure they had the right-wing media on hand to take photos of those mean chavistas coming to get the other chavistas out of their entrappment in the building, and the sight of the kids with guns was front page news.)

The Cuban embassy people were in dire need before that Chavez coup was overturned by the people of Venezuela. Isn't it sad they attack the ambassadors?
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:28 PM
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7. Chavez vowed to overthrow the country's apparent new leader....hmmmmm
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 07:30 PM by ohio2007
snip

The first military takeover of a Central American government in 16 years drew widespread condemnation from governments in Latin America and the world, and Chavez vowed to overthrow the country's apparent new leader.


snip



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090628/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_honduras_referendum

he does have enough 'advisor's' in country already.

looks like its all coming together now.:scared:

:tinfoilhat:
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:10 PM
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9. so this is all a giant conspiracy for Chavez to take over Honduras?
Right wing paranoia at its worst..:tinfoilhat:
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:27 PM
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12. or intended to provoke Chavez and Venezuela's allies into taking action
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 11:27 PM by Alamuti Lotus
:shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:35 PM
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16. Chavez is a soldier and he picks his fights. He made his own guard
stand down initially during the coup against him to avoid bloodshed and he's never been heavy handed against demonstrators. Over the top speculations aside, the man uses the phone, not the military and apparently, he does it well.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:30 PM
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14. Chavez recruits at the School of the Americas?
A military coup has taken place in Honduras this morning (Sunday, June 28), led by School of the Americas (SOA) graduate Romeo Vasquez. In the early hours of the day,

http://www.soaw.org/

If so. you've got to admire that guy.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:35 PM
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17. No, he doesn't. n/t
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:45 PM
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19. No, but I know who does. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:51 PM
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21. Yeah. We do!
lol

:)
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:46 PM
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20. Goddamn, that's an embarassingly-ignorant attempt to stir a non-existant pot.
Your edit window has likely expired. Plan B is to claim you were drunk when you wrote that. As much as Chavez is criticized here, I don't think you're going to get many buyers into the Protocols of the Elders of the Bolivars, man.

PB
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create.peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:00 PM
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8. honduras news dot com has some info, not like iran with atll the twitterers
http://hondurasnews.com/2009/06/

Curfew Imposed in Honduras
June 28th, 2009 · 1 Comment

The newly sworn-in acting president of Honduras has imposed a two-day nationwide curfew.

Roberto Micheletti told a news conference that the curfew would run from 9pm to 6am on Sunday and Monday

Micheletti is from the same Liberal party as Zelaya, and promised to govern with “transparency and honesty” and “work tirelessly to restore the peace and tranquility that we have lost”.

He said Zelaya was not ousted through a coup, but by a legal process.

“I came to the presidency not by a coup d’etat but by a completely legal process as set out in our laws,” Micheletti said after being sworn in.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:21 PM
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10. This guy is toast. No one is recognizing him and Zelaya is in Nicaragua now.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:27 PM
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13. WTF is going on there?
:scared:
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:33 PM
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15. Venezuelaanalysis.com=PressTV (Iran) what a coincidence that they kidnapped
Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela...and then venezuela and Chavez blames USA and Obama. Zelaya is reviled in Honduras and he "ain't coming back". President Micheletti will be in power for 5 months until the scheduled elecions on 11/29/09. Both major Parties Presidential candidates support the Honduran decision to expell Zelaya who had brought the country social, economic. and political chaos. So now we believe Chavez, Ortega, the Castros and Zelaya? I agree with Obama, this is an internal Honduran affair and Honduras took care of their problem.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:38 PM
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18. Wrong. Multiple sources have it, like Reuters.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090628/tpl-uk-honduras-president-chavez-sb-81f3b62.html

And, as a contributor to VenAnalysis, please show me a factual error so I can alert the editors. :hi:
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:09 AM
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25. Fidel turning out to be a good reporter




He wrote a column Sunday afternoon in which he had this report of the assault on Honduran Foreign Minister Patricia Rodas (who has been flown to Mexico).

Highlights:

Rodas was the second target after Zelaya.
She called the ambassadors of Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba to come to her aid, saying she needed diplomatic protection.
Golpista command sent a Major Oceguera to arrest her.
The ambassadors told Oceguera that she was under diplomatic protection and could only leave with them.
Minutes later, between 12 and 15 uniformed and hooded troops barged into the house.
The three ambassadors embraced Patricia Rodas.
The hooded troops acted in a brutal manner and separated the ambassadors of Venezuela and Nicaragua from Rodas.
The ambassador of Cuba held on to Rodas's arm so tightly that both were dragged out and loaded into a van, taken to an air base where they were separated.
The Cuban ambassador was left on the side of the road and threatened not to talk. He responed with a phrase that Castro said will "enrich our language."

---------------------------

Patricia Rodas, la ministra de Relaciones Exteriores de Honduras, fue después de Zelaya el objetivo fundamental de los golpistas. Otro destacamento fue enviado a su residencia. Ella, valiente y decidida, se movió rápido, no perdió un minuto en denunciar por todos los medios el golpe. Nuestro embajador había hecho contacto con Patricia para conocer la situación, como lo hicieron otros embajadores. En un momento determinado les solicitó a los representantes diplomáticos de Venezuela, Nicaragua y Cuba reunirse con ella, que, ferozmente acosada, necesitaba protección diplomática. Nuestro embajador, que desde el primer instante estaba autorizado a brindar el máximo apoyo a la Ministra constitucional y legal, partió para visitarla en su propia residencia.

Cuando estaban ya en su casa, el mando golpista envió al mayor Oceguera para arrestarla. Ellos se pusieron delante de la mujer y le dicen que está bajo protección diplomática, y solo se puede mover en compañía de los embajadores. Oceguera discute con ellos y lo hace de forma respetuosa. Minutos después penetran en la casa entre 12 ó 15 hombres uniformados y encapuchados. Los tres embajadores se abrazan a Patricia; los enmascarados actúan de manera brutal y logran separar a los embajadores de Venezuela y Nicaragua; Hernández la toma tan fuertemente por uno de los brazos, que los enmascarados los arrastran a los dos hasta una furgoneta; los conducen a la base aérea, donde logran separarlos, y se la llevan. Estando allí detenido, Bruno, que tenía noticias del secuestro, se comunica con él a través del celular; un enmascarado trata de arrebatarle rudamente el teléfono; el embajador cubano, que ya había sido golpeado en casa de Patricia, le grita: '¡No me empujes, cojones!' No recuerdo si la palabra que pronunció fuese alguna vez utilizada por Cervantes, pero sin duda el embajador Juan Carlos Hernández enriqueció nuestro idioma.

-------------------------------------

Castro's full column (in Spanish)

http://www.abn.info.ve/noticia.php?articulo=188404&lee=15


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:13 AM
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26. Mil gracias!
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:17 AM
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27. De nada.



Interesting day.

Saw where you were slugging it out today with pro-fascists. :rofl:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:31 AM
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30. That summary of events most clearly explains why the three ambassadors
happened to be in one spot at the same time. You no doubt saw someone attempting to imply it w was proof they, as leftists, were conspiring at the time they were attacked, so they got what was coming to them.

Brilliant show of astounding mental skills, wasn't it?

http://www.erowid.org.nyud.net:8090/culture/characters/einstein_albert/images/einstein_albert6_med.jpg

Thanks for adding the missing information.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 12:10 AM
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22. Obama has neocons running CIA, and hasn't closed School of Americas
I smell we are getting more of the same we got with Bush.

Obama saying this is an internal Honduran problem sounds as hollow as he saying that he has a fierce support of LGBT rights.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:03 AM
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31. Zelaya is only reviled
by the ultra rich. So the major left wing party candidate who was murdered today did not support Zelaya????
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:52 PM
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34. They were friends. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 12:44 AM
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23. Communist Party USA Statement on Honduras Crisis
From: Communist Party USA <cpusa@cpusa.org>

Sent: Sun Jun 28 2009 09:48:09 PM EDT

Subject: Communist Party Statement on Honduras Crisis

The Communist Party USA (CPUSA) joins with the world in denouncing the coup d’etat this morning against the legally elected president of the Republic of Honduras, Manuel Zelaya, by the Honduran military, in which, according to a statement by the president’s wife, Mr. Zelaya was threatened and beaten before being sent into exile in Costa Rica.

• The CPUSA denounces alarming reports of physical attacks by troops against the ambassadors of Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua in Tegucigalpa, and calls for protection of all diplomatic personal; and, if the reports of the attacks are confirmed, punishment of all the responsible parties for this gross violation of Honduran and international law.

The CPUSA further:

• Demands that president Zelaya and other members of his government be returned to power immediately, and that the troops return to their barracks.

• Demands the immediate release of all labor, community and student leaders who have reportedly been rounded up by the army, and the restoration of freedom of the press.

• Recognizes that the Obama administration has repudiated the coup, and insists that President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton hold firm to this position, refusing diplomatic recognition and any military aid to Honduras until President Zelaya is restored to power.

• Calls upon unions and other people’s organizations in the United States to actively support our brothers and sisters in Honduras in resisting this brutal military coup d’etat.


Communist Party USA




*Communist Party Statement on Honduras Crisis*

http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/1052/1/42/


*Declaración del Partido Comunista sobre la crisis de Honduras*

http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/1053/1/42/
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:05 AM
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24. Does anyone know why this is happening?
Why the coup?

Why Honduras? Why now?

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:22 AM
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28. What comes to mind for me is that the neocons have lost El Salvador
-- lost it in the last election. What else do they have? They have to get Honduras back and it seemed vulnerable right now. :shrug:
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:14 AM
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29. Honduras was, after all, the ORIGINAL "Banana Republic"
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:23 AM
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32. was cheney one of the hooded men
was it a kkk hood?

blowback sucks
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:05 PM
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33. I'm telling you -- it's Iran envy.
The Honduran generals have obviously liked what they've seen in Iran in the past 30 years -- at least the parts they've chosen to notice.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:57 PM
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35. I'd wager that BushCo is somehow behind this
Just because they're out of power doesn't mean they're out of power. People like Pappy Bush and Darth Cheney don't stop pulling strings simply because they're out of office.
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