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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:06 PM
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Economists see end to US downturn
Source: BBC

The US economy should emerge from recession by the late summer, according to economists from some of the country's top banks.

The American Bankers Association's Economic Advisory Committee has said it expects economic activity to increase by 0.5% between July and September.

But committee head Bruce Kasman said, "the economy will return to growth but not to health."

The bankers also said US unemployment would hit 10% early next year.



Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8104066.stm
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:08 PM
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1. I doubt that.
Because rising gas and oil prices are already starting to hit the economy between the eyes.
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:08 PM
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2. Are these the same economists who MISSED the Recession?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:09 PM
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3. ......

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:12 PM
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4. pay close attention for it --because you won't notice otherwise
:eyes:
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:16 PM
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5. yeah I am sure of it
jobs will appear, gas prices will go down and we will all be walking in sunshine. Piss in my ear and tell me it's fucking raining.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:17 PM
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6. LOL! They'll do that, too, and won't think twice.
:rofl:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:17 PM
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7. By contrast, the DU consensus seems to be that we're all doomed.
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:21 PM
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9. No DD, this is gonna take time, in my opinion
I dont want some economists, whom are not named, from banks whom probably had some hand in the curent problem from saying, "Look over there! I see the end of the Recession!"
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:18 PM
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8. They're not saying it's going to magically become good again. They're just saying
it's going to stop getting worse in some sectors, and begin the recovery.

Make mistake, we have a long road in front of us. But they've been saying this recession will last for most of the year before getting better.

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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:33 PM
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24. You're right, the Banks are doing great!
Military spending has never been higher! So those two sectors are doing just fine. Healthcare companies are also reaping the last windfalls they can, and the Petrochemical industry is jacking up prices just in time for some premptive war.

Yep, good times ahead. It's all over, move along, nothing to see here.

These people actually believe that people will sleepwalk right back into the Fraud that has wiped them out.

Good luck with that.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 12:01 AM
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27. Umm, you might want to read up.
Pentagon spending is (albeit slightly) decreasing.

The banks are iffy, but not failing, which is a good thing.

We are trying to implement healthcare reform, but we're facing stiff oppositon from both parties.

Don't tell me you actually expected unicorns?

Tough times are ahead, but this country has survived in much worse situations.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 12:27 AM
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28. Umm, you might want to WAKE UP
Edited on Wed Jun-17-09 12:30 AM by TheWatcher
The Banks are INSOLVENT and have been for MONTHS. Those "Record Profits" the ejaculated at you in the 1st Quarter and expected you to BUY at FACE VALUE? You can Thank Mark-To-Make-Believe Accounting for that.

Helo Ben continues to Monetize the debt and devalue the currency.

The only thing this Economy has been running on is Well-Crafted Propaganda and an Artificially Inflated Stock Bubble.

We need JOBS, not Jive Talk.

"WE" aren't implementing anything.

The so-called Leadership is serving you up another plate of Dog Shit and telling you it's Godiva Chocolate. People need affordable Health CARE, not INSURANCE.

"Don't tell me you actually expected unicorns?"

No, that's about the level of lame, apologist, talking point pap I've come to expect from people like you.

"Tough times are ahead"

The ONLY truthful thing in your Post.

As for the Pentagon, if their spending IS decreasing, it's only because they have finally gotten around to spending the $2.3 TRILLION that went missing.

:puke:

And PLEASE don't bother responding, because I have no interest in reading or listening to more glazed over nonsense about how "nothing exists", and "I Believe, I Support, I'm Confident, Unicorns, Ponies, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, Fucking BLAH."

Just save it for one of the other "Yes Bots" who is interested.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:28 PM
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10. what a crock... and these idiots still have jobs?
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 05:32 PM by ixion
amazing.

-- Option ARM loans still resetting through 2011

-- Banks (the same folks who wrote this article) have yet to write down the value of their assets.

-- Commercial property is on the verge of a meltdown.

-- Job losses continue.

-- Thanks to the bailouts, we're now 15 trillion in debt, and there is a good chance the US will default on this debt in the third quarter.


Recovery my arse.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:34 PM
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11. "No freaking way. Smirk" - xCommander AWOL & Republicon Homelander Cronies
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 05:36 PM by SpiralHawk
"Shock & Awe, baby. Smirk. Too bad - smirk - about you Americans."

- xCommander AWOL & Republicon Homelander Cronies
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:44 PM
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12. Yeah that extra 26 bucks a month in my wife's paycheck has really saved our asses.
:eyes:
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:51 PM
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13. I've noticed an upturn in my Ebay sales
I have sold a lot of items this week that have been sitting in my Ebay store for months. Coincidence? Maybe, I don't know, but they are not nickel and dime items. I'm hoping it is a sign that people are beginning to loosen up on their spending. I, in turn, bought a new TV on-line this week. Every little bit helps.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:01 PM
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14. *Cough* Don't "bank" on it. n/t
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:31 PM
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20. Nice one! nt
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:03 PM
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15. Same ones who saw it coming?
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:11 PM
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16. The recession won't be over by the end of summer
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 06:12 PM by blue_onyx
We'll be lucky if it ends this year.

"The bankers also said US unemployment would hit 10% early next year."

Early next year? Really? Whoever made this prediction is an idiot. Unemployment is already near 10 percent (9.4% in May). The automotive job losses which will effect almost every state will be enough to push the national unemployment rate over 10% by June (maybe July).
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:15 PM
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17. Warning to politicians and businessmen:
There is no such thing as a jobless recovery.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:16 PM
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18. 30 years of Reaganomics gone by late summer?
It is to laugh.

Nah, judging by my friends not finding gainful employment the past 3 years here in Michigan, I find that hard to believe.

(now comes Agent 86 from Get Smart with the, "Would you believe...."


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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:27 PM
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19. Not according to to this:
U.S. likely to lose AAA rating: Prechter
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE55E6BM20090615

and not accordin to Roubini, or Deninnger, Max Keiser, Jim rogrs, all the guys who really see clearly and are marveling at the sheep like reaction of the American public to the biggest
financial heist in history.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 12:34 AM
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29. "Youre just jealous", "Things are leveling out", It doesn't exist", "What, didn't get your Pony?"
Edited on Wed Jun-17-09 12:35 AM by TheWatcher
"That isn't from a reliable source, because it doesn't make me feel good", "Baby Steps", "Grand Game Of Chess", "Green Shoots", "Showing Signs", "I Believe In the Fed", "Geithner is just getting a bum rap because Obama chose him", "Monetizing the Debt is Good", "Take The Crumbs and be Happy", "Debbie Downer", "You Want The Economy To Fail".......

There. Now "they" don't have to bother. :)
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 01:16 AM
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30. Very thoughtful. Ty.
:)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:54 PM
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21. i work at an ikea like priced furniture retailer in norcali --
and we've been a LOT busier.

i don't know what that means -- all i know is we notice changes almost universally before any economist does.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:58 PM
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22. Were these the same guys that failed to predict the depression?
Or did they hire some new ones?
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:01 PM
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23. Found a pic of your average "Economist"
.
.
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yup yup

That's where they get their ideas from

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:21 PM
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25. Oh, I guess they got it right THIS time..unlike all the other times.
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 09:23 PM by tom_paine
:rofl:

I guess this means the "recession" :rofl: is going to last quite a bit longer, at least for the bottom 90%.

Of course, it's been obvious to me that for many years now the Economy Whore-Pundits' ONLY speak about the fortunes of the top 10% when they are speaking of the economy.

So, I guess that Great Heist of $8,500,000,000,000 has been a rousing success.

The "recession" :rofl: is going to end for the top 10%, and the rest of us serfs can go fuck ourselves. We do not exist in the M$M's deluded and false picture of The Empire.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 11:26 PM
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26. what stocks are they trying to gin up to sell before it all goes to shit...?
THAT'S what we should be asking.
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