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bloomington-lib Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:34 AM
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Report: 2 US journalists admit entering NKorea
Source: ap

SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea's state-run news agency says that two American journalists sentenced last week to 12 years of labor admitted they crossed into the country illegally.

The Korean Central News Agency said in a detailed report Tuesday that Laura Ling and Euna Lee of Current TV were arrested after crossing the Tumen River from China into North Korea.

The report says the women "admitted and accepted" the sentences handed down by North Korea's top court on June 8.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090616/ap_on_re_as/as_nkorea_journalists_held



I wonder what they had to go through to "admit" that?
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Lost Jaguar Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:58 AM
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1. Torture Works!
Wasn't the SERE "interrogation" program based on the experiences of U.S. military personnel who had been captured by North Korea in the early fifties? And weren't false confessions, or the resistance to these extortions, the purpose of the program?

Alternately, the journalists may have freely "confessed" to facilitate their repatriation. It is entirely possible that they are being treated humanely. But since the United States has lowered the standards of treatment, I dread what those women may be experiencing under the North Koreans.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:08 AM
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2. Standards of Treatment
Once again...it is silly to lay the actions of other governments at the feet of the US. North Korea has been abusing, torturing, imprisoning (many times entire families) and killing its peoples and enemies for the better part of 50 years.

What the US did in Gitmo and Abu Graib is unforgivable, but let's not be myopic. There are much worse assholes out there that are doing things MUCH worse that us and doing without any influence from us.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:12 AM
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4. What the US did in its global detention and torture program
was exactly to give a permission slip to other regimes. And our service people will be dealing with the fallout for decades.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 06:50 AM
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9. NK did the same thing to the pueblo crew..
long before any of the things you listed ever happened. So as they say on the price is right "furr, fur,fa,fah" aka price is wrong ...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 04:13 PM
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11. If you're arguing that the terror program will have no consequences,
you're wrong. It already has had consequences, aka, Fallujah -- which erupted AFTER a year of those people hearing horror stories out of Abu Ghraib.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:16 PM
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12. Same thing, you are connecting things that are not related
try cobra 2 for a real insight. Non-political accounting of events in the current war. I am not making that argument, I am just saying that in the case of NK it does not apply.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 10:02 PM
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6. Actually, it is entirely IMpossible they are being treated humanely
unless you call being arrested and convicted on false charges, and sentenced to hard labor for 12 years in the world capital of Stalinesque conditions, humane treatment.

The emotional trauma of this will eat them for the rest of their lives even if they're released tomorrow.

Frankly, except for the Party elites, NO one in DPRK is treated humanely. The place is utterly fscked, and starvation looms for millions.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:11 AM
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3. With a little help from their new friends...
:eyes:
rocktivity
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:56 PM
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5. I'm wondering if they were doing a little extra "reporting" for the CIA?
It's a fact the CIA debriefs many journalists, as well as asking them to look at specific things. The whole mockingbird op really puts the neutrality of american "journalists" in jeopardy.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 10:07 PM
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7. Yeah, suuurrrre they were...under the aegis of Al Gore, the known CIA spookmaster.
Everyone knows Gore's Current Media, who employed the women, is a CIA propaganda agency, and sent these two evil "journalists" to the NK paradise to sow evil and lies.

:crazy:

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 06:41 AM
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8. kidding right?
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 01:41 PM
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10. heh heh - yes eom
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