Alleged 9/11 mastermind: `I make up stories'

[FourScore]

Source: AP

Accused al Qaeda mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed complained that interrogators tortured lies out of him, though he proudly took credit for more than two dozen other terror plots, according to newly released sections of government transcripts.

''I make up stories,'' Mohammed said at one point in his 2007 hearing at Guantánamo Bay.

In broken English, he described an interrogation in which he was asked the location of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden...

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...One detainee, Abu Zubaydah, told the tribunal that after months ``of suffering and torture, physically and mentally, they did not care about my injuries...''



Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation/story/1098707.html

[timeforpeace]

1. KSM: "I'm a liar."

"Is that the truth?"

KSM: "Yes"

[dysfunctional press]

2. this statement is a lie.

nt

[struggle4progress]

10. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's '31 plots' (BBC | Mar 09)

The alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, has admitted his role in them, and 30 other terror plots around the world, in a hearing at Guantanamo Bay, the Pentagon has said. According to partial transcript of the closed-door hearing, released by the US defence department, the suspect confessed to the following attacks or plots ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6452789.stm


We have your sons: CIA
March 10 2003
By Olga Craig
Kuwait
Two young sons of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the suspected mastermind of the September 11 attacks, are being used by the CIA to force their father to talk. Yousef al-Khalid, 9, and his brother, Abed al-Khalid, 7, were taken into custody in Pakistan in September when intelligence officers raided a flat in Karachi where their father had been hiding. Mohammed fled just hours before the raid but his sons and another senior al-Qaeda member were found cowering behind a wardrobe in the apartment. The boys have been held by the Pakistani authorities but this weekend they were flown to America where they will be questioned about their father. CIA interrogators confirmed that the boys were staying at a secret address where they were being encouraged to talk ... http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/03/09/1047144871928.html

[Hissyspit]

3. LA Times: Detainee says he lied to CIA in harsh interrogations

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-cia-detainee16-2009jun16,0,316330.story

Detainee says he lied to CIA in harsh interrogations

Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, told the U.S. military that he made up stories, documents show. The news could intensify the debate over interrogations.

By Julian E. Barnes and Greg Miller
June 16, 2009
Reporting from Washington -- Self-proclaimed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed told U.S. military officials that he had lied to the CIA after being abused, according to documents made public Monday, a claim likely to intensify the debate over whether harsh interrogation techniques generated accurate information.

Mohammed made the assertion during hearings at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where he was transferred in 2006after being held at secret CIA sites since his capture in 2003. "I make up stories," Mohammed said, describing in broken English an interrogation probably administered by the CIA concerning the whereabouts of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. "Where is he? I don't know. Then, he torture me," Mohammed said of his interrogator. "Then I said, 'Yes, he is in this area.' " Mohammed also appeared to say that he had fingered people he did not know as being Al Qaeda members in order to avoid abusive treatment. Although there is no way to corroborate his statements, Mohammed is one of the militants whom the CIA repeatedly subjected to the simulated-drowning technique known as waterboarding.

The newly released information could amplify calls for the Obama administration to make public more details about the treatment of terrorism suspects or allow a broader inquiry into the George W. Bush administration's interrogation policies. Monday's disclosure represented a rare allegation by a detainee that he had lied while being subjected to harsh practices.

A lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union, which obtained the documents through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, said Mohammed's statements raised questions about the effectiveness of the CIA's interrogation program.

"It underscores the unreliability of statements obtained by torture," said Jameel Jaffer, director of the ACLU's National Security Project.

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[Hissyspit]

4. Rachel Maddow Show video with ACLU interview:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=325070&mesg_id=325070

[Politicalboi]

5. So does our government

Where's the proof that anyone other than our government caused 9/11.
This is going to get good. :popcorn:

[winyanstaz]

8. The official 9-11 story keeps getting bigger and bigger holes in it.

Now they cant blame the people they already tortured into admitting that they did 9-11..guess they will have to find a new patsy to torture.
I understand they also kidnapped this man's children to get him to confess? Is this true?

[merwin]

6. Tomorrow's talking point: How can you believe an admitted liar when he says he was tortured?

Want to wager money?

[struggle4progress]

11. KSM Was Waterboarded 183 Times in One Month

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/18/15147/8817

[unpossibles]

23. I know a rightie who defended that by saying

it was only 183 pours of water, and that is like saying he had 20 beers from a can cause he took 20 sips.

It's amazing and more than a bit scary what the Rushbots will defend and repeat, apparently without even thinking about it.

[struggle4progress]

25. Let me advise you not to go drinking with him: he seems confused about how best to enjoy his beer

:D

[unpossibles]

28. oh trust me, I totally agree

I told him it would be more like if I strapped him down and used a beer bong to pour the beer in without giving him a chance to breathe...

[winyanstaz]

7. Well anyone would make up stories in order to stop the torture.

This is why torture does not work..duh.

[Rex]

9. Did you hear that? It was a republican brain exploding!

That kind of logic eludes the average (and evidently alot of other) republican brains 100% of the time. If thought about for too long, it makes smoke come out of their ears!

[Prometheus Bound]

12. Duh!

[Solly Mack]

13. K&R

[L0oniX]

14. See how torture keeps our country safe folks. It's wonderful thiing.

:crazy:

[Blandocyte]

15. So much for saying "torture works"

to get at the truth.

[bdamomma]

16. again, Torture does not work.

[zeemike]

22. I disagree, Torture does work

It gets people to say what you want them to say...does not matter if it is true or not.

[Soylent Brice]

17. K&R

[moggie]

18. So would I

If I were waterboarded 183 times, I'd admit to responsibility for Jimmy Hoffa's disappearance, fixing the 1919 World Series, and the taste of New Coke - before lunch on the first day. Whatever they wanted to hear.

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. Who wouldn't? Bet cheney would admit that the bu$h maladministration was behind 9/11 if he were

asked under "enhanced interrogation methods". It would be the one time he actually told the truth. :think:

[MrMickeysMom]

19. Well, do we even test this theory, say with Jessie Ventura and Dick Cheney?

... You know, give JV 5 minutes with DC and what? We'll have another mistrusted individual's confession to 9/11?

What are we learning here? Nothing.

Unless we have an unbiased investigation of what happened 9/11/01, we'll never be able to trust anyone. We haven't been able to do that since JFK was assassinated with the lone nut theory being just as ridiculous.

With suspected criminal liars (Khalid Sheik Mohammed, or Dick Cheney), what objective data are you going to be able to measure?

None of what we've tolerated gets us closer to the truth. Put your popcorn away until we get to the point of seriousness, not the mental masturbation going on about the issue of extracting worthy information under torture.

We've been there, done that, doesn't work. Duh, indeed... munch, munch.

[Xipe Totec]

20. You mean people lie under torture?! That's so unfair!

They should be honest when when we torture them and beat them up.

Otherwise it makes us look bad.

:sarcasm:

[peacetalksforall]

21. These guys make up stories and CHENEY BELIEVES THEM!

CHENEY LOVES STORIES< ESPECIALLY CHALABI'S.

And the world is brought down.

[jberryhill]

26. Cheney believes what he believes...

...and keeps up the torture until captives agree with his pre-determined opinion.

[alfredo]

24. Gee, prisoners lying under torture. Who'da thought?

[progressoid]

29. but but but but...

what if there is a dirty bomb about to go off in your city? Huh? You'd want to use torture then right? Huh, liberul commie?

:eyes:

[KakistocracyHater]

30. life is not an episode of a tv show, 24 or any tv show.

There I've said it.

[merwin]

31. I don't know... my life is starting to resemble Arrested Development.

n/t