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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 04:01 PM Original message |
Gay-rights Groups Blast Admin. Brief |
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SacredCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Fan Fucking Tastic.... |
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youngharry (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. DOMA--Bush leave behinds |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Are you saying Obama isn't in control of his administration? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #44 |
77. He is only responsible for the good things that happen. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. Be quiet and keep chanting "Hope, Change", the Blue Wizard will make dreams come true. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 04:20 PM Original message |
And until the legislature changes the law let's all just equate gay with incest and pedophila. nt |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
85. For the record: Obama DID NOT compare Gay marriage to Incest |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Deceitful, and very ugly indeed. You should not try to obfuscate and defend this brief. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. Anybody who trys to defend this crap is INEXCUSABLE |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. yep, blame everything on Congress |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. Some of the comments under the article are pretty unfortunate. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Until the Obama admin steps up to the plate, homophobes will continue |
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howmad1 (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
52. Like I keep saying: |
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jhrobbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
66. Yeah, because with friends like ours, we've obviously got a long row to hoe |
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Merryweather (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. What a kick in the teeth |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
73. Welcome to DU! |
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Merryweather (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Thanks! Your sig line is indeed true n/t |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. I am trying. I luck out when I find someone to welcome; this is a big place... |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. Well People really... |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. This is one of the issues I where I believe Obama is lacking |
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jhrobbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
67. I'm not afraid of the Repukes here. No, because it's not the repukes to be afraid of |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I'm hoping that is the case... |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. My optimism is still high, but I'm like that by nature |
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WillParkinson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Wow... |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
42. thats not what I said... |
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TommyO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. No, you effectively told gay people to shut the hell up |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
81. Well, you did say that -- it's your opinion, so own it |
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TommyO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. That's right, we have to get to the back of the bus |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I was just going to post the back of the line statement |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Obama is NOT getting a fucking BREAK on this one. |
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damonm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
41. That's a bit much, |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Try seeing this from my perspective. |
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damonm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. You're damn right it is... |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I agree to a point, but this brief is making it more difficult for the Obama admin to undo DOMA |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. No. |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. ...aren't you comfortable under that bus? |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. I think he has people to help him with that. They're called a STAFF. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. Did you forget a sarcasm icon? |
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jhrobbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
65. I don't think it works like that-like he is in sixth grade doing his homework |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
74. Now is the time: |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
12. This site has a good, section by section analysis of what it really says (it's not kind to the Obama |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. Can't think of a better way to spit in the gay community's face |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. And on the eve of the bulk of the pride celebrations. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. k |
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JBear (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
20. Sad indeed... |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
21. That does not explain why the administration defends Bush court |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
22. We no longer need to scratch our heads in wonder over why |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
24. "... in the absence of a new law, the government is duty-bound to enforce the laws of the land..." |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Here's the telling quote from the article you cite. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. SNAP! |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Telling? Not really. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yeah, we don't want any activists out there |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. lol! You're pasting this strawman argument again? It's as ridiculous now as it was the first time. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Oh goody .. the famous straw man cop-out |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Getting my popcorn out for this one. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Well *others* don't give a shit and won't admit it. |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #43 |
70. I agree totally |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
82. It's a fact not "a cop-out". Logical fallacies are easy to spot in baseless rhetoric. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Deleted message |
ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
83. No, I am stating facts. If that's bothering you, then you must be against the rule of law, too. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. It appears you have been snoozing over just about every |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
84. Really? Enlighten me then. What's your proof? I want sourced linked fact not dime a dozen op-eds. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
61. My goodness, clark |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. Deleted message |
Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. We all are glad he won. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Deleted message |
Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Ooooh. im's gots a big ol' lizard. Im's so tough now. |
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Swede Atlanta (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
25. Obama gets a ZERO rating |
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Liberalboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. RIght behind you! |
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Merryweather (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
26. You know what really pisses me off? |
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stevietheman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
29. Don't they have to defend federal law? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. No, they don't. (NT) |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Yes, they do. The executive branch are not a law unto themselves. |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. OBEY is one thing, DEFEND in court, is another |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. He has to |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. It's not a case of "just following the law" |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. You're so cluelessly wrong. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Very good evidence and argument behind your assertion |
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Swede Atlanta (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. Not in agreement with you there.... |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. Does the law require him to liken us to uncles who fuck their nieces? |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
62. No. Actually they DO NOT have to do ANYTING in court. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Despite what some say.. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-14-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #35 |
96. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
40. Blast away. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
47. Good - keep the PRESSURE ON!!! |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. Hate to say I told you so |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
54. It's his duty to execute the laws on the books. I don't have an issue as long as he upholds his |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. See this post - there's more to it |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:38 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. This has ZERO to do with executing the law. The DOJ is not bound by anything to make arguments |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
68. FUCK YOU, Obama, you fucking BIGOT |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
95. My words exactly... |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
69. Good, Obama deserves the heat. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #69 |
75. I hope to hear something from Obama, as he and the DOJ.. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
71. Um, Obama is NOT defending DOMA. By law, the DoJ does NOT communicate w/Pres. Obama on cases. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #71 |
89. I look forward to him standing up and criticizing this outrage. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. There is nothing - nothing - |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
94. Obama fails to uphold the law by not prosecuting the torturers and Bush war criminals |
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