Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

London's Metropolitan Police accused of waterboarding suspects

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:33 PM
Original message
London's Metropolitan Police accused of waterboarding suspects
Source: The Times

Metropolitan Police officers subjected suspects to waterboarding, according to allegations at the centre of a major anti-corruption inquiry, The Times has learnt.

The torture claims are part of a wide-ranging investigation which also includes accusations that officers fabricated evidence and stole suspects’ property. It has already led to the abandonment of a drug trial and the suspension of several police officers.

However, senior policing officials are most alarmed by the claim that officers in Enfield, North London, used the controversial CIA interrogation technique to simulate drowning. ....


Read more: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6466430.ece
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:53 PM
Response to Original message
1. Now where on earth could they have gotten the idea its okay to fabricate evidence and torture?
Crazy brits.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. While Tony was sitting on Georgie's lap Georgie whispered
a sweet nothing ion Ton's ear. "Tony" he said, "waterboarding is a great way to make criminals confess and it keeps your police sharp too!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:23 AM
Response to Reply #2
24. abandonment of a drug trial and the suspension of several police
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 07:25 AM by saigon68
In amerika we harbour, shelter and honour these types of thugs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:19 PM
Response to Original message
3. Allegations aren't always true. The article doesn't even say who made the claims. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. It explains in the link "Cannabis case led to claims" on the Times page
It also says the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) is carrying out an independent inquiry into the allegations. They are taking it very seriously after the Met’s anti-corruption unit at Scotland Yard looked into the complaints made against several officers, including theft of property, and found reason to move forward. The cannabis case was dropped by the Crown Court so as not to compromise "a wideranging criminal investigation into the activities of a number of police officers."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:27 PM
Response to Original message
4. Remind any one of this?


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wabbajack_ Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. Hitler?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:30 AM
Response to Reply #9
20. Nope. Secret Police in "V" is for Vendetta. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:45 PM
Response to Original message
5. And so it begins... coming to your town... soon. TheTorturer.com
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flyboyscotty68 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:09 PM
Response to Original message
7. how long before this comes back to USA?
So how long do you think it will be before the first person gets waterboarded here in the USA?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. I would bet that that has already happened.
We just don't know about it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:37 AM
Response to Reply #7
22. Welcome to DU!
:toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:41 AM
Response to Reply #7
23. Welcome to DU. Probably has already occured.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:27 AM
Response to Original message
10. I hope they do a lot of time, given a conviction.
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 12:27 AM by Seldona
Disturbing trends are developing as of late.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:16 AM
Response to Original message
11. UK police officers accused of waterboarding
Source: Salon

UK police officers accused of waterboarding

Jun 9th, 2009 | LONDON -- Scotland Yard says six officers have been suspended after "serious allegations" about their behavior during the arrests of five suspects last year.

London's police force did not go into detail, but Sky News television and the Daily Mail newspaper are reporting the officers are accused of waterboarding drug suspects.

Scotland Yard said in a statement late Tuesday that Britain's police watchdog, the Independent Police Complaints Commission, is investigating. Calls and e-mails to the commission were not immediately returned.

Waterboarding, a type of simulated drowning, is almost universally condemned in Britain as torture. It has controversially been used by U.S. interrogators to squeeze information out of suspected terrorists.


Read more: http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/world/2009/06/09/D98NDHN01_eu_britain_waterboarding/index.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:16 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. Ticking time bong scenario?
This is trickle down anarchy, I expect to see alot more of this.

America leads the "free" world you know.:thumbsdown:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:16 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. We set a wonderful example, don't we?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:17 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. Monkey see, monkey do. n /t
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 06:03 PM by Downwinder
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flyboyscotty68 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:17 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. this is just the first step
Next they just drag you out of your house and waterboard you till you confess. I don't see how they can justify this. Mobile confession centers. How can you brit's stand for this.,,,WOW
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:17 AM
Response to Reply #11
16. Six Met police officers are accused of 'waterboarding' drug-raid suspects
Published Date: 10 June 2009

SIX Metropolitan Police officers have been suspended after they were accused of dunking suspects' heads in buckets of water, it emerged last night.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) confirmed it was investigating the conduct of Enfield-based officers during drugs raids in the borough in November last year, in which four men and a woman were arrested in Enfield and Tottenham ...

Police said that in the case being investigated for 'water-boarding' claims they found a large amount of cannabis and the suspects had been charged with trafficking a class C drug ...

http://news.scotsman.com/uk/Six-Met-police-officers-are.5350080.jp
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:17 AM
Response to Reply #11
17. Six Yard officers suspended over 'terror torture'
... As well as using waterboarding it is alleged detectives repeatedly held the suspects’ heads in ­buckets of dirty water ...

Most of the alleged victims are believed to have been foreign nationals detained in north London in a drugs operation in November last year ...

The six officers were part of a group of nine suspended in February. The nine, all part of the crime squad in Enfield, north London, were taken off duty over allegations concerning the “mishandling” of stolen flat-screen televisions, computers and other electrical goods.

It is believed the officers took the consumer goods from the suspects’ homes during the operation. Two months later, a Metropolitan Police employee made the allegations of “torture” to Scotland Yard’s anti-corruption squad. The Independent Police Complaints Commission has taken over the part of the inquiry focusing on alleged police brutality involving four men and a woman arrested in Enfield and Tottenham and charged with importing cannabis ...

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/106534/Six-Yard-officers-suspended-over-terror-torture-
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:17 AM
Response to Reply #11
18. How cannabis case led to claims of theft and violence by police
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 08:59 PM by Turborama
Source: The Times (UK)

=snip=

Allegations of evidence fabrication and theft of suspects’ property developed into more serious claims that some individuals were subjected to violence and ill treatment amounting to torture. One claimant made an allegation of having been subjected to waterboarding.

The chain of events began last November when officers from Enfield carried out a series of raids. Addresses in Enfield and Tottenham were searched after a tip-off that people living there were involved in cannabis dealing.

Four men and a woman were arrested and charged with importation of a Class C drug.

On December 4 the defendants appeared before Enfield Magistrates’ Court and the case was committed for a Crown Court trial.

The drug case appears to have been the catalyst for an inquiry into activities at Edmonton station by the Scotland Yard Directorate of Professional Standards, the Met’s anti-corruption unit. This team is known in police slang as the Rubber Heelers — so named “because you can’t hear them coming”.

In this inquiry they appear to have lived up to their reputation. It is understood that video probes and covert listening devices were planted inside the police station to gather evidence.

=snip=

Continues: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6466731.ece
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:46 AM
Response to Original message
19. And of course, when it doesn't work...
...you panic and go into coverup mode. Which makes things 10 times worse.


And even if you get somebody, you have to let them go because the evidence is poisioned.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:35 AM
Response to Original message
21. Belated Welcome to DU!
:toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:43 AM
Response to Original message
25. Well well well well.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:44 AM
Response to Original message
26. When I first saw this story on the NY Times site
They used the term "waterboarding" in the head and in the lead. Now, they've scrubbed that and only mention the term further down in the story.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 10:32 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC