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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:23 AM
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Bomb found, defused aboard Iranian plane
Edited on Sun May-31-09 08:58 AM by IDemo
Source: Reuters

TEHRAN, Iran - Security personnel defused a homemade bomb found on an aircraft during a domestic flight in Iran late on Saturday, Iranian media said, two days after a mosque bombing killed 25 people in the country's southeast.

The device was defused after the Tehran-bound Kish Air aircraft with 131 passengers on board made an emergency landing in the southwestern city of Ahvaz, the semi-official Fars news agency reported.

The incident occurred less than two weeks before the Islamic Republic holds a presidential election in which the conservative incumbent, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, faces a challenge from reformers.
"Minutes after the ... Kish Air flight took off with 131 passengers from Ahvaz to Tehran, security personnel found a homemade bomb" on board, Fars reported.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31026235/
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:31 AM
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1. Good grief. They either had great intel, or they didn't do their pre-flight sweep.
They can often be sloppy and inefficient (to be frank about it), but in this case, I think it was the former circumstance--they had intel--maybe an infiltrator in the group plotting the action:

The official IRNA news agency, in a report which did not mention the explosive device, said there had been a plot against the flight but that those behind it had been arrested.

"The plot ... was unsuccessful due to the security forces' awareness and those behind it were arrested," IRNA said.

Ahvaz is the capital of Khuzestan province, where many of Iran's oil fields are located. The province borders Iraq and is home to the mainly Shiite Muslim country's Arab minority.

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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:43 AM
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2. three were found, tried and convicted for Thursday's mosque bombing.
Then, hanged Saturday. Quick Irani justice!

According to MSNBC:

"Jundallah or God's Brigade, a Sunni militant group believed to have links with al-Qaida, claimed responsibility for the attack."

Does every group have to have ties to Al-Qaeda nowdays, to get any press at all? I'm just saying.

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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:11 AM
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5. and they were executed . All within 36hrs of the bombing. Can family members lodge an appeal?
Edited on Sun May-31-09 09:16 AM by ohio2007
I think not.


lol
Must be CIA but I can't believe Barack signed off on the bombing in the first place
:sarcasm:
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:50 AM
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3. Looks like they can pin the blame on some other "group" living in Iran
Edited on Sun May-31-09 09:09 AM by ohio2007
history
snip

Iraq attempted to annex Khūzestān and Ahvaz in 1980, resulting in the Iran–Iraq War (1980-1988). Ahvaz was close to the front lines and suffered badly during the war.


Iraq had pressed its claims to Khūzestān in part because many of the inhabitants of the area spoke Arabic rather than Persian, the dominant language in Iran. Iraq had hoped to exacerbate ethnic tensions and win over popular support for the invaders. Most accounts say that the Iranian Arab inhabitants resisted the Iraqis rather than welcome them as liberators. However, some Iranian Arabs claim that as a minority they face discrimination from the central government; they agitate for the right to preserve their cultural and linguistic distinction and more provincial autonomy. See Politics of Khūzestān.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahvaz

Arrest a few,put them on trial and have them swinging from a tree by Tuesday . No need for an appeal or costly civil suit lodged against the govt.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:32 AM
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7. You seem to have a good idea how they gather their intel....tell us more
Iran is an independent nation and what they do is of no concern of you and I, but rather fro Iranian people. I noticed that every time Iran is mentioned in these forums you come out swinging and write some one-liner being a one line opinion that also conveys no information. The shit you write is mostly pathetic and seem that it is page copied from the Israel-daily-propaganda-ministry. GIVE US A BREAK, and stop amusing us with one-liner cockups you present as proof that those Iranians are the devil.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:59 AM
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:58 AM
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4. It sounds like there is a new revolution brewing in Iran.
Ahamadinejad is on the wrong side of it. Al Khimia! There will be change. A new day of enlightenment approaches the horizon. God bless them all!
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:19 AM
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6. Those "students" have a new leader but will the mullahs 'annoint' him later this month?
video: Iranian students cheering for presidential candidate Mehdi Karroubi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdTSeirznts
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:27 AM
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8. There are even democratic element to Islam. The Ayatollah is the supreme leader.
But the Ulema or Council of the Wise can remove him from office. Basically impeach him. But that has to be for diversion from Islam or what they view to be incorrect interpretations of Islamic doctrine or law. So he's not as Supreme as some would like to think. But with that said I don't really anticipate that. The Ayatollah has already said that a nuclear weapons program is not in keeping with Islam. So that is both refreshing an encouraging. Because ultimately that program would be under the Ayatollahs control. Islam is not like Catholicism where Christianity is exactly what the Pope says it is and you cannot argue with that. Regardless of what anyone thinks, says, or does, even the College (Ulema) of Cardinals (Mullahs), he will be Pope until he dies. So as long as this new Revolution conforms to and manifests in the strict limits of Islam. They will be fine and even the Mullahs will jump on board. But Islam will take precedence over politics as always.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 11:15 AM
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10. I am suspicious in how,for comparison, a canidate that came in third place in a runoff election
becomes president in the first place.




Islam will take precedence over politics as always.

wtf was that all about as in the "general election" he was barely a no show in the first place.


Are you suggesting history will repeat this month in Iran ?

If the top two are not properly "vetted" they are thrown out like all the other 'progressive' canidates for their lack of "principles" were thrown out before they were allowed to run as canidates.

Seems no seperation of mosque and state is the founders principles but it could be worse. They are not allied with the dangerous Saudi brand of "Big Brother" islam.

Its going to be an interesting trip Barak makes to Egypt to say the least.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:23 PM
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11. It is an Islamic Democracy. Notice who gets top billing in that.
Apparently their founders think differently than ours when it comes to separation of church and state. But our founder were from Europe. There is a whole different spin on religion there. That is where religion was used to control the masses. But while trying to design the government of this new nation. One of the places they turned to for inspiration was the Persian Empire under Cyrus the Great. This where they found principle in our Constitution like freedom of religion and human rights etc. In the Persian Empire the official religion was Zoroastrianism. But that was just the religion of the monarch. That's all that meant. Cyrus allowed the people of the lands he conquered to retain their religion customs and traditions. Cyrus usually conquered a land to free it's people from an oppressive King. Like when he conquered Babylon and freed the Jews from the Babylonian Captivity. Zoroastrianism was never really used to control the masses. Membership in the religion can neither be inherited nor compelled. It's practice must be voluntary at all times because it's centered in freewill. But it was used to control the crown. But this was to ensure that the crown did not unjustly interfere with freewill. It seems to be the same way with Islam in Iran. It's used more to control the positions of powers so they do not unjustly interfere with the practice of Islam in Iran. A separation of church and state can also achieve this to some degree. But it's their country and their way. It's actually older than our way. If it's not broke you don't fix it. Even if it is broken. It's just not ours to fix.

Frankly after spending 1 trillion on what amounts to election reform in Iraq. I would hate to make that same mistake with Iran. Our only real concerns are their nuclear ambitions. The more assurances they provide us with the less of a road bock to those ambitions we are. If they could work with us instead of against us. We could facilitate and even accelerate those civilian energy ambitions.
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