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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:45 AM
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Two Bush-era officials reject Cheney's security stance
Source: AFP/Yahoo

WASHINGTON (AFP) – Two top Bush-era officials on Friday rejected ex-vice president Dick Cheney's scathing criticism of US President Barack Obama, saying the country's national security was not in jeopardy.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who served in the same post under former president George W. Bush, and Tom Ridge, the former head of homeland security, both voiced disagreement with Cheney a day after he attacked Obama's performance as the new commander-in-chief.

Gates said in an interview that opponents of Obama's decision to close the "war on terror" prison at Guantanamo were engaging in "fear-mongering," a reference to Cheney's stance on the issue.

Defending the president's decision to shut the detention center at the US naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Gates said the prison was damaging America's image and served as a propaganda tool for Al-Qaeda.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090522/pl_afp/usjusticeattacksguantanamomilitary
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:13 AM
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1. Cheney should "get it" from those two.
Much more rhetoric from Cheney and his Liz will make them look like clowns. Both Gates and Ridge have a following, as far as being reasonable and calmly sane, which will stand out against the Cheney clan.

I hope Cheney doesn't "order" some kind of incident to prove he is right. Why do I think that isn't too far off base?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:18 AM
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2. "Sneer." - Dickie 'Five-Military-Deferments' Cheney (R)
Edited on Sat May-23-09 07:19 AM by SpiralHawk
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:22 AM
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4. As a Vietnam pacifist, I do not sneer at five deferments (or at veterans) only at chickenhawks.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:21 AM
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8. The five deferments are part and parcel of Chicken Dickie being a chickenhawk.
What's your point?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 01:42 PM
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10. Well, Cheney is all Chickenhawk. That's for sure.
Just like Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck and the rest of the Republicon Homelander MisLeadership.

Sneering Chickenhawks, every one of them.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:19 AM
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3. I am reminded of LbJ's "in the tent pissing out" metaphor. Gates may even have gotten Ridge to
comment.

Between her book on Lincoln and her comments on LBJ, Doris Kearns Goodwin seems to be having a considerable influence on Obama. He could certainly do worse. She is a sensible, patriotic woman and very learned, not only in Presidential history, but also in Presidential politics (or maybe they are one and the same?).
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suchadeal Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:38 AM
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5. DKGoodwin is a "convicted" plagiarizer & most historians
Edited on Sat May-23-09 07:38 AM by suchadeal
do not consider her as being one of their own. She's not taken seriously in academia.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:40 AM
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6. "the prison was damaging America's image and served as...
a propaganda tool for" AQ....

Yep, dicktatorture chainy wants a new "New Pearl Harbor" to scare the sheeple into submission again because he never gets enuf profits from his personal investments in helliburton and big oil.

Now, the question is: will the corrupt r-w owned m$m report that?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:53 AM
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7. Abu Ghraib is part of this issue of torture and prisoner treatment, but media seldom
mentions it - it's always Gitmo or sometimes "prisons in Iraq and elswhere".
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 01:15 PM
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9. K&R
:kick:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:39 PM
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11. Good~ The more voices
against cheney and his clone the merrier and even better that they're from the "bush admin".
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